Starmer right to make a statement about the horrific Stockport crime but he made a mistake by immediately associating those involved in acts of violence since to being just far right.

"El scorch. Asher Smith has won medals at Olympics, World's, Europeans, Commonwealth. Considered to have a net worth above £2m. I am sure she won't care what you think of her achievements."

Ray. Nope. No doubt this thread will get locked soon and we will all move on to something else until some event happens somewhere and we all start talking about politics again. :-)

"Sky leading with a headline currently of ""Keir Starmer says he has uncovered more Tory 'mess'"" this not the previous mess he has mentioned or his 400 odd MP's in every interview no this is more mess. Tomorrow's headline Sir Keir finds more mess under his bed sheets."

Again today Labour MP's following same script in every interview. I almost get the sense some of them fear losing whip if Starmer catches them not mentioning the Conservatives. Everything is in turmoil and Labour will sort it all out not that history has ever shown they do. Everything is easy in Gov...

Goose a good example. If Labour right at the very top come out and back the Police Officer in Manchester I will honestly give respect to that. I just don't see they will from initial comments. But let's see how the day goes.

"Ray, Conservatives can't have been that bad for 14 years if they were how did they keep winning. They won because Labour were hopeless. They won this time by becoming more like the Conservatives. It is of course fine to make bold statements. It is my opinion Labour will crumble and crack at the fir...

Ray 14 years that shows just how bad Labour were that they couldn't get in. They have now with a really disappointing 35% of the vote after those 14 years Labour so eagerly mention. If Labour can match the 14 years fair play. I just don't see it.

"Conservatives were in for 14 years because Labour have been hopeless and to left wing. So whilst Starmer might keep referring to 14 years those 14 years were signed off by the public voting the Conservatives in. I give it 6 months before Labour start to crumble. That is even if no new world crisis ...

Starmer repeatedly blaming Conservatives for everything and that apparently a crisis everywhere in the country in PMQ's. He must think the 65% of the population that voted but that didn't vote for him are fucking stupid and believe his every word. We know what's coming. I just can't see how with all...

Labour demands it's MP's do not vote for the SNP amendment threatening them with suspension if they do. 7 Labour MP's still stand up to being bullied by Sir Keir and vote with SNP they have now been expelled for 6 months. 42 Labour MP's decided not to vote either way.

I wasn't that impressed with how the Government reacted to the Global IT Outage today. It did seem a little bit like Starmer was distracted by the Summit he was holding and didn't even feel like he needed to respond. The honeymoon most certainly over.

Zeb from surveys it has some support from ages 25 upwards increasing through to strongest support 65+. So while I get your point I don't think it is totally opposed by those much younger than you my think.

"Reading more about the National Service policy it seems like rather than just a miserable boot camp type experience it would be attempting to build interests in things like cyber, logistics and helping the fire, police and NHS. I am reasonably certain that even if it is not brought in soon, at some...

"Disagree Alfs Iran launched drones, cruise and ballistic missiles far from handbags. It was the Israeli air defence and allied interceptions that ensured that last night horrific loss of life didn't occur."

Israel has 'approved operational plans for both offensive and defensive action' - IDF

"Nutsin, if that were the case would expect more reports by now?"

Iran's state-run IRNA news agency has said Tehran has fired ballistic missiles at targets inside Israel.

100 drones and missiles. Some shot down over Syria and Jordan.

Looks a significant response from Iran.

Cruise and ballistic missiles also launched.

Iran launches attack against Israel using dozens of drones.

Also GPS being jammed in Jordan probably by Israel.

"Jordan about to close airspace, Biden returning to Washington. Does have a feeling of maybe something happening this evening."

So much hate around the world.