Contract for New Manager

[northbankboy68]

After the fiasco of the contracts given to Pellegrini, Lopetegui and Potter would anyone like to bet on Sullivan spending a couple of grand on getting a fit for purpose contract for Potter's replacement that includes a break clause for piss poor results and remuneration based on success?  Nah - I think he'll spaff more millions up the wall.  Businessman, my arse.

[Russ of the BML]

One of West Ham's biggest problems under Sullivan is that he is generally always looking for a new manager because we are in the shit. Thus giving the incoming bloke the upper hand. One of Sulli's many failures is to have never enhanced the brand of 'West Ham' and so we are seen by numerous managers as them doing us a favour. Nuno will be no different.

Had Sullivan done his job properly and instilled a vision, style and ethos way back when he came in, then we would be always searching for a type of manager / coach. That way, you can calculate your compensation / salary costs more efficiently. As it stands, we are a beggar sitting in the road with our cap held out. 

Again, each failure leads back to one culprit. 

[goose]

I would just write WIN SOME FUCKING GAMES at the top.

[stubbo-admin]

I think part of the problem is manager's generally know they don't have to take those contracts.

I mean, we should be thinking:

• 3 year contract
• Option to sack for nothing if in bottom 3 with ten games to go 25/26 (last role of dice)
• Option to sack for nothing if relegated
• Option to sack for 6 months pay if in bottom 5 at Xmas 25/26
• Option to sack for 6 months pay if in bottom 7 at End of Season 25/26
• Buy out clause of 15m if any club in the top 10 at time of asking seeks to hire

 

All well and good in theory but you won't attract the best talent with such clauses, unless all clubs signed up to the same paradigm.

Totally agree. That was kind of the point I was making. Something like should be the norm...protect the club, but more than achievable for a manager with self belief.

But the reality is most managers go into these jobs more than likely salivating at the payday to come. There is no real fear of failure.

And as much as the OP says about the contract, the managers will reject anything that looks like this because they know they'll get a deal elsewhere without the risk to their ability to build up some generational wealth.

Take Nuno....apparently wants 100k per week on a 3 year gig. 15m+ across his contract. 

What other job anywhere rewards failure quite so highly than contracts in football?

[Alfs]

I think part of the problem is manager's generally know they don't have to take those contracts.

I mean, we should be thinking:

• 3 year contract
• Option to sack for nothing if in bottom 3 with ten games to go 25/26 (last role of dice)
• Option to sack for nothing if relegated
• Option to sack for 6 months pay if in bottom 5 at Xmas 25/26
• Option to sack for 6 months pay if in bottom 7 at End of Season 25/26
• Buy out clause of 15m if any club in the top 10 at time of asking seeks to hire

 

All well and good in theory but you won't attract the best talent with such clauses, unless all clubs signed up to the same paradigm.

[stubbo-admin]

I think part of the problem is manager's generally know they don't have to take those contracts.

I mean, we should be thinking:

• 3 year contract
• Option to sack for nothing if in bottom 3 with ten games to go 25/26 (last role of dice)
• Option to sack for nothing if relegated
• Option to sack for 6 months pay if in bottom 5 at Xmas 25/26
• Option to sack for 6 months pay if in bottom 7 at End of Season 25/26
• Buy out clause of 15m if any club in the top 10 at time of asking seeks to hire

Or something like that...all emminently achievable for a manager of any real substance amd protects the club.

But the reality is a guy like Nuno knows he doesn't need to take on the risk...and you can bet they LUURRRVVVEE the payout for failure which is frankly baked in.

[northbankboy68]

Why do you describe the contracts as a "fiasco"? What do you know of them?

Last time I looked Potter is still our manager and being paid in spite of the worst win rate in living memory.  Good luck with working stuff out.

[On The Ball]

Why do you describe the contracts as a "fiasco"? What do you know of them?