West Ham Poppy Scandal

[Massive Attack]

Fuck me WOW...




Great timing we are staying a protest march tomorrow then. Our once great Club that used to represent so much good is now captured.

Kieran Fox is a Gooner by the way.

Fucking Club is rotten from top to bottom.

LEST WE FORGET

[mallard]

Can we lock this thread and yellow card the poster for his relentless rage-baiting, multiple posts please?

[stubbo-admin]

Update from Ex on what happened:

As many of you would have seen there has been a huge outcry that West Ham were not going to wear poppies on their shirts this weekend following a leaked email supposedly from the club.
Believe you me if that had been the case I would have been the first to say how appalling this is. As someone whose is staunchly proud of the achievement of my grandparents and uncles in the war I very much believe in honouring their generation’s sacrifices to enable us to have a better life.
Like everything though social media has twisted the story and painted the club in a bad light. Of course this shouldn’t have happened but there is an explanation.
I have done my research and essentially been told the email was sent out by a recently appointed new member of staff which hasn’t been approved by the club and also doesn’t explain the context of the email.
So I did my research and this is essentially what happened:
The original message was sent out by a West Ham community foundation coach (who’s only been at the foundation for about 2 months) after getting a request from a parent of one of the boys community teams. The parent asked if they could pay to have poppies printed onto the shirts ahead of this weekend fixture.
Because the foundation has about 25 teams It wouldn’t be fair for only one team to have poppies on the shirts unless the parent wanted to pay for the whole foundation, the logistics of collecting 500 kids shirts in, getting printed and getting back to them in time for the games wouldn’t be possible in the time frame,
You also have to add to the fact that the shirts have to last the kids the entirety of the season, stickers/printing often peel off and damage the match kit anyway.
The email was then signed off as “West Ham United” without the blessing of the correct people within the club and would not have been approved if it had been checked.
All the teams will still observe a minutes silence as always before kick off today. I will be at the under 18s game and will be able to check this myself. This is something that has been the routine every year and nothing has changed.
The whole scenario has been created by a new employee making a big mistake which will essentially land himself in very hot water.
Whilst of course this is not an ideal situation when you have the actual context it thankfully doesn’t put the club in as a bad a light without that information.
I am aware that the club will mark remembrance across all levels and that they have been preparing the first team one for some time.
There are a lot of things that need improving at the club but thankfully I believe this isn’t another one to add to the list.

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

A salutary lesson in why people shouldn't go on fucking Twitter for news. Or if you do, just keep it to yourself.

[Pshyco scored all 4]

Of course this is made up shit . Something that the likes of the north London scream queen would dream up for clicks . 

[Fauxstralian]

Some Japanese wannabes are gullible cretins

Hopefully all the gullible snowflakes have dried their eyes and can move on to the next thing to be offended by

[BRANDED]

West Ham United will honour those who bravely laid down their lives for us with a series of poignant Remembrance Day activities around Saturday’s Premier League fixture with Burnley.Before the match, the Royal British Legion Poppy Appeal will hold bucket collections and will be selling poppies around London Stadium.A large poppy will cover the centre-circle throughout the warm-ups while members of the Armed Forces and representatives from Blesma, The Limbless Veterans, will provide a Guard of Honour in front of the Billy Bonds Stand and West Stand.Blesma veteran Matty Woollard, who lost his right leg whilst serving in Afghanistan, will also speak to his fellow West Ham supporters about the importance of marking Remembrance Day and the work done by the charity and Royal British Legion in supporting veterans and their loved ones.The Royal British Legion Band & Corps of Drums, based in Romford, will entertain the crowd with a selection of war-time tunes.Wreaths will be laid by representatives of both clubs before kick-off. Bugler Osman Dervish will sound The Last Post before London Stadium falls silent to pay tribute to the fallen.The Hammers will wear shirts emblazoned with a poppy which will be auctioned post-match to raise funds for charity online here at the Official West Ham Store.

[Mad Ferret]

Made up bollocks on fucking X what a fucking surprise.

Is anyone surprised that Massive Arsehole fell for this shit

[Pi Alpha Nu]

Made up bollocks on fucking X what a fucking surprise.

[zebthecat]

It absolutely is the Clubs fault ....

Unless of course the original post is proven to be true.

 

Some players in the U21s tonight were not wearing a poppy. 

So what?
Most people choose to wear them and some don't.
I will on Sunday but am unbothered by those who don't.

[frank marker]

For me the poppy is a symbol of remembrance. A symbol and perhaps a few pennies towards supporting those who have chosen to serve in the armed forces. Few survivors now would be conscripts, I would guess.  Sometimes I buy one, sometimes I don't. It doesn't make a difference to my family history. I would imagine most on here could easily trace a relative who was killed in the first world war. In my case it was my great grandfather. Obviously I never knew him and nor did my mother, but I have a brass plaque my great grandmother was given after he lost his life. I am also lucky enough to have one of two surviving letters he wrote from the trenches. The one I have dates from a couple of days before he died and is gut wrenchingly mundane in view of what was to come. He talked about the garden and how his younger siblings must be growing up. His remains are at Thiepval in northern France. My son uses the letter in his History lessons. Maybe it might bring a bit of reality to an event which I personally hope none of us will ever have to experience. More recently, other members of my extended family have served, that didn't stop me from questioning the reasons why some of those later conflicts took place.The Falklands, Iraq etc. 

If you wear a poppy, it doesn't make you a right wing fascist. If you don't, it doesn't make you a leftie cսnt. If that's the level at which you operate it says more about your intellect than anything else. Wedgewood Benn was a fighter pilot in the war and yet was villified in the press for being a communist peacenik. What does that tell you about some of the press? These things are nuanced. So please, reign it in a bit, and think about what it's really all about. You might find you have more in common with the people you're slagging off than you think.

Here endeth the sermon. Apologies.
 

[BRANDED]

Ahead of our Remembrance Day fixture with Burnley on Saturday, four members of West Ham United’s U12s squad visited the historic Poppy Factory in Richmond as part of a special educational and community project designed to help young players connect football with remembrance, respect and social action.


I like the idea of history being taught and celebrated for good.

[Takashi Miike]

some fake Australians are communists, some aren't

[Fauxstralian]

Some players wear a poppy , some dont
Some players take a knee, some don’t 

I can imagine most people who fought for the country fought for the right for people to have the right to be free & follow their own conscience 

We are in the angry man time of the year
Flag shaggers, roundabout painters, poppy shaggers & the bloke last week complaining that a box of mince pies didn’t have the word Christmas on it
 

[Keep dreaming]

So is this confirmed as fake news yet ?

You have to question the motives of those sticking this kind of story out there and also the timing of it

To agitate and hijack the march maybe and turn the narrative into something other than what it is ?

This is all about true West ham fans showing their feelings highlighting the issues that exist and trying to improve things for us and future generations.

We don't need supposedly outraged outsiders getting involved..






 

Yes 

[Lee Trundle]

I saw Callum Marshall not wearing one last night. Who else?

I don't fancy a team of James McClean's, but Marshall doesn't look like he's ever going to make it with us anyway.

[Gary Strodders shank]

So is this confirmed as fake news yet ?

You have to question the motives of those sticking this kind of story out there and also the timing of it

To agitate and hijack the march maybe and turn the narrative into something other than what it is ?

This is all about true West ham fans showing their feelings highlighting the issues that exist and trying to improve things for us and future generations.

We don't need supposedly outraged outsiders getting involved..





 

[stewey]

It’s a load of bollox 
out cousin’s across the water where on this story quite lively 
mmmmm , bit suspicious.
 

[collyrob]

No blood stained poppys 

[Mike Oxsaw]

When was it decided that the poppy only represents the British who have died in wars?

Who made that decision?

[Massive Attack]

This poppies on shirts has only been a thing since 2012 anyway. 
​​​​​​If its left to the players to decide, i think you're all going to be disappointed. And they are not going to want division in the team over this. 

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Couldn't give a fuck. They're happy enough to take the knee like gimps, they can also tolerate wearing a Poppy for those that died so we can live ours in relative peace. Silly cunts wouldn't know they're born to take such a stance..

[honky cat]

This poppies on shirts has only been a thing since 2012 anyway. 
​​​​​​If its left to the players to decide, i think you're all going to be disappointed. And they are not going to want division in the team over this. 

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[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

..and someone who cares passionately about my Country

 

 

As do I son

[Massive Attack]

Again, it should be made compulsory as it was before the change. This is ​​​​the Clubs decision. They should be leading, not pandering to woke bollocks.

 

What change?
Mate, let's agree to disagree on this one, eh?

 

Sure thing. I come from a family - and someone who cares passionately about my Country - connected heavily to the military so this means a lot to me, especially with connections to supporting the Club. 

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

Again, it should be made compulsory as it was before the change. This is ​​​​the Clubs decision. They should be leading, not pandering to woke bollocks.

 

What change?
Mate, let's agree to disagree on this one, eh?

 

[Massive Attack]

Unless of course the original post is proven to be true.

 

Some players in the U21s tonight were not wearing a poppy. 

As I've said, that's the players choice.
Not neccesarily the decision of the club, because as you say, some players are not wearing one which indicates that others are. So, not dictated by the club.

Again, it should be made compulsory as it was before the change. This is ​​​​the Clubs decision. They should be leading, not pandering to woke bollocks.