Amorin Sacked

[happygilmore]

Jump the queue on Nuno

[Far Cough UKunt]

[southbankbornnbred]

“I came here. Too be a Manager. NOT coach.”

Amorin. Own words. Yesterday. ManU fans want the next Fergie. ManU ownership certainly don’t want the next Fergie.! It’s a real shame.

Yep - couldn’t happen to a nicer club.

[Massive Attack]

Made me laugh, Amorim had his rant and publicly tells the board to do their job.............So they did 

Sceptic in me thinks he's been angling for this for a while, back to Portugal with a nice wedge in his pocket!

It could be The Portuguese Way.

[Sydney_Iron]

Made me laugh, Amorim had his rant and publicly tells the board to do their job.............So they did 

Sceptic in me thinks he's been angling for this for a while, back to Portugal with a nice wedge in his pocket!

[Massive Attack]

I also prefer managers to be managers rather than mainly dictated to what players they can and cannot have. I'll never think it is a better way to manage a Club with divs above pushing or taking players away you want to work with. Chelsea and Man Utds current models is partly why they flounder behind. That said, I do also think the Man Utd job was too big for Amorim and he did make many mistakes anyway. 

[RBshorty]

“I came here. Too be a Manager. NOT coach.”

Amorin. Own words. Yesterday. ManU fans want the next Fergie. ManU ownership certainly don’t want the next Fergie.! It’s a real shame.

[Come On You Irons]

The golden years never coming back at Manchester United, the biggest club in the country, is a ridiculous comment. Football is cyclical. Big teams like Liverpool and Arsenal have been in the relative doldrums in fairly recent times like Man Utd are now, but they have bounced back.

[Massive Attack]

His bizarre press conference (not the 1st he's had) yesterday after their 1-1 draw with Leeds was probably what tipped the Board over the edge when he kept banging on about leaving after his contract is up in 2027. Nowhere else to go really when you want the sack by stating that over and over. The Club was just too big for him to handle. 

[Fauxstralian]

Didn’t Catweazle Radcliffe say he was getting 3 years to sort things out just a few weeks ago?

[Fauxstralian]

Think the only surprise is that they didn’t extend his contract before sacking him
Enjoyed watching Gary Neville’s reaction after they drew with Wolves
Looked like he was going to burst into tears any minute 

All these Man U pundits … Neville , Keane, Scholes etc … need to realise the golden years are GONE and are never coming back

[El Scorchio]

From the BBC:

Speaking of the Manchester United players, personnel issues and injuries were a common theme throughout Ruben Amorim's tenure as United boss.Amorim used 25 different starting central defensive partnerships during his time in the Premier League - eight more than any other side in that time.He started with a three-man defence in 45 of his 47 Premier League games in charge.But only four clubs conceded more goals in the Premier League than Manchester United (72) during Amorim's time in charge - Tottenham (76), Wolves (81) and West Ham (84).And, among the ever-present sides in the Premier League since Amorim's arrival, only West Ham (six) kept fewer clean sheets than United (seven).

YIKES. No thanks.

[Mike Oxsaw]

You have lost the way, so, Amorin go!

[Mad Ferret]

Amorimjob with ‘Arry assistant.

YES PLS

[GBHammer63]

I personally don’t care what system is used provided that the 343, 433, 532 etc. manage to not look like they’ve been selected from a morgue.

[RBshorty]

Fergie spoiled them. The world has moved on.

[Come On You Irons]

Wasn't Sullivan apparently unconvinced by Amorim whilst he was still at Sporting? I think that was the reason why he went for 'loser Lop' instead of him as Moyes' successor.

I doubt Sullivan would sign Amorim. Even though he now fits his criteria for a manager of being an out of work, failed loser with Premier League experience.

[El Scorchio]

Only they can compete with us for the most spastically run club in the division, relative to financial power of course. It's incredible how they have spunked all that money to be bang average. Something there is utterly rotten at the core just like us. No matter what they change, like us, it can't seem to be removed. Of course it's much more straightforward with us. It's the chairman and his sidekick. No question. Not even sure what it is with them. The money and infrastructure is there for success albeit the stadium is a shitheap but it's sold out every game. I guess it boils down to ownership as well, in the end, but they don't meddle half as much as Sullivan. They back managers, they spend money. Ratcliffe hasn't improved or worsened it.  It's just bizarre.

They and us, both just shocking car crashes of clubs. 

Don't know if I'd take Amorim. Obvs there are qualities there but for whatever reason at Man U he couldn't hack it or impact change despite having an open chequebook, virtually. He COULD be our Emery if the opportunity were there, but I don't know what he'd do with our centre backs and forward line and with Sullivan in charge tying one hand behind his back at all times, like all our managers. I'll caveat all that by saying there is no fucking way he'd come to us after his stock taking a hit at Man U. He'll go for an easy job on the continent and rebuild his reputation, I am sure.

IMO The fanbase would hate Amorim.  Any time one of our managers goes to a back 3, the screams around negativity are instantaneous.

His system is 100% dependant on his wingbacks.  We have one in Diouf...but again he's considered a defender by the fanbase so 3-4-3 as a system will always be considered as a 7 defenders, 3 attackers system.

The fanbase simply won't wrap their heads around that as a system, which makes Amoim a horrible fit.

 

 

Yes very true. That IS 'our' problem though and we should be beyond just glancing at a formation or team sheet and then throwing a wobbler- which I KNOW is difficult based on recent years- when whatever faults our managers have had, none of them has been given the resource to properly fashion a squad of their own making rather than some horrible hybrid of what they want and need to implement a system, and what Sullivan decides he wants. We've become just as short termist and myopic as football club owners. 

Anyway that's some fairly awful waffle, but I agree with what you say. We need to be more open though. I just find it silly when players or managers are absolutely coated off from the get go. I try to at least wait for them to show me they are a failure first. Not difficult at this club at the moment...

[Takashi Miike]

Only they can compete with us for the most spastically run club in the division, relative to financial power of course. It's incredible how they have spunked all that money to be bang average. Something there is utterly rotten at the core just like us. No matter what they change, like us, it can't seem to be removed. Of course it's much more straightforward with us. It's the chairman and his sidekick. No question. Not even sure what it is with them. The money and infrastructure is there for success albeit the stadium is a shitheap but it's sold out every game. I guess it boils down to ownership as well, in the end, but they don't meddle half as much as Sullivan. They back managers, they spend money. Ratcliffe hasn't improved or worsened it.  It's just bizarre.

They and us, both just shocking car crashes of clubs. 

Don't know if I'd take Amorim. Obvs there are qualities there but for whatever reason at Man U he couldn't hack it or impact change despite having an open chequebook, virtually. He COULD be our Emery if the opportunity were there, but I don't know what he'd do with our centre backs and forward line and with Sullivan in charge tying one hand behind his back at all times, like all our managers. I'll caveat all that by saying there is no fucking way he'd come to us after his stock taking a hit at Man U. He'll go for an easy job on the continent and rebuild his reputation, I am sure.

IMO The fanbase would hate Amorim.  Any time one of our managers goes to a back 3, the screams around negativity are instantaneous.

His system is 100% dependant on his wingbacks.  We have one in Diouf...but again he's considered a defender by the fanbase so 3-4-3 as a system will always be considered as a 7 defenders, 3 attackers system.

The fanbase simply won't wrap their heads around that as a system, which makes Amoim a horrible fit.

stubbo, but surely that system is best when using it to bolster the attack, rather than adding a couple of more bodies to sit deep. the best coach I've seen utilise it in recent times was glasner when he was frankfurt manager and having those two wide players constantly flying forward. it does put more onus on the three CBs, which is another reason I/I'd hate it with our current group of clowns like killman and the greek. mayers does play it with the youngsters, but we're still short in that position of a reliable performer

[stubbo-admin]

Only they can compete with us for the most spastically run club in the division, relative to financial power of course. It's incredible how they have spunked all that money to be bang average. Something there is utterly rotten at the core just like us. No matter what they change, like us, it can't seem to be removed. Of course it's much more straightforward with us. It's the chairman and his sidekick. No question. Not even sure what it is with them. The money and infrastructure is there for success albeit the stadium is a shitheap but it's sold out every game. I guess it boils down to ownership as well, in the end, but they don't meddle half as much as Sullivan. They back managers, they spend money. Ratcliffe hasn't improved or worsened it.  It's just bizarre.

They and us, both just shocking car crashes of clubs. 

Don't know if I'd take Amorim. Obvs there are qualities there but for whatever reason at Man U he couldn't hack it or impact change despite having an open chequebook, virtually. He COULD be our Emery if the opportunity were there, but I don't know what he'd do with our centre backs and forward line and with Sullivan in charge tying one hand behind his back at all times, like all our managers. I'll caveat all that by saying there is no fucking way he'd come to us after his stock taking a hit at Man U. He'll go for an easy job on the continent and rebuild his reputation, I am sure.

IMO The fanbase would hate Amorim.  Any time one of our managers goes to a back 3, the screams around negativity are instantaneous.

His system is 100% dependant on his wingbacks.  We have one in Diouf...but again he's considered a defender by the fanbase so 3-4-3 as a system will always be considered as a 7 defenders, 3 attackers system.

The fanbase simply won't wrap their heads around that as a system, which makes Amoim a horrible fit.

[El Scorchio]

Only they can compete with us for the most spastically run club in the division, relative to financial power of course. It's incredible how they have spunked all that money to be bang average. Something there is utterly rotten at the core just like us. No matter what they change, like us, it can't seem to be removed. Of course it's much more straightforward with us. It's the chairman and his sidekick. No question. Not even sure what it is with them. The money and infrastructure is there for success albeit the stadium is a shitheap but it's sold out every game. I guess it boils down to ownership as well, in the end, but they don't meddle half as much as Sullivan. They back managers, they spend money. Ratcliffe hasn't improved or worsened it.  It's just bizarre.

They and us, both just shocking car crashes of clubs. 

Don't know if I'd take Amorim. Obvs there are qualities there but for whatever reason at Man U he couldn't hack it or impact change despite having an open chequebook, virtually. He COULD be our Emery if the opportunity were there, but I don't know what he'd do with our centre backs and forward line and with Sullivan in charge tying one hand behind his back at all times, like all our managers. I'll caveat all that by saying there is no fucking way he'd come to us after his stock taking a hit at Man U. He'll go for an easy job on the continent and rebuild his reputation, I am sure.

[Come On You Irons]

Incredibly harsh for me. He has them 6th in the league and three points off the Champions League positions. What does the Man Utd board expect!

Think it was more about the breakdown in relationship with the Management layer, than the team's performance in the league this season.

 

 

Yeah true. I see the statement the club put out uses the wanky term "leadership"

"With Manchester United sitting sixth in the Premier League, the club's leadership has reluctantly made the decision that it is the right time to make a change"

Vomits

[Fauxstralian]

Darren Fletcher in interim charge
His two sons starting on Wednesday?

[twoleftfeet]

Not a surprise, too big a club for him and the style of football is rubbish.

He should have joined us and built a reputation.

[stubbo-admin]

Incredibly harsh for me. He has them 6th in the league and three points off the Champions League positions. What does the Man Utd board expect!

Think it was more about the breakdown in relationship with the Management layer, than the team's performance in the league this season.

[Come On You Irons]

Incredibly harsh for me. He has them 6th in the league and three points off the Champions League positions. What does the Man Utd board expect!