HS2 may not run through to central London - report

[Westham67]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64421566 They are making it up as they go along Its not surprising as ground was broken too early just to push to the project through Crossrail on steroids

[Moncurs Putting Iron]

"LT Me too fella, me too ;-)"

[Lee Trundle]

I'd be over the moon if a train taking me to IPSWICH was cancelled. ;-)

[Moncurs Putting Iron]

With respect and love to the OP I dont care about HS2 would prefer it if they got existing services sorted 1st. (Yes my train back to Ipswich has been cancelled and yes this leaves me in a massive pickle)

[Mike Oxsaw]

"I wouldn't put it past this shower of shit that calls itself a government simply installing a bog standard railway onto the already constructed civil works, linking it with the existing network at either end and selling it as a ""Glorious new freight route, green enough to take 10 lorries per day off the roads""."

[Westham67]

I dont know mate but the its snouts in the trough time for recruiters and when you have the employer HS2 clueless all the frauds slip through the net

[Westham67]

I dont know mate but the its snouts in the trough time for recruiters and when you have the employer HS2 clueless all the frauds slip through the net

[mashed in maryland]

Westham67 10:26 Sun Feb 19 Considering how much of a fuck-up HS2 has been what is he actually doing for £600 a day? Genuine question

[Percy Dalton]

Also the proposed new road tunnel linking Essex to Kent has been put back two years due to inflation.

[Westham67]

Not enough track nerds on here. No one takes me on on LinkedIn

[Pentonville]

"nothing has made me happier than to see 67 interacting with someone on this thread cos for a minute, i thought he was in an echo chamber hahahahaha as for stopping the boats, my cousin is patrolling the channel with the navy and said if we knew how many boats per day, there would be a fooking riot"

[bruuuno]

"Nothing worse than a foreigner, 67 son"

[Westham67]

"Yes because we cannot ""Stop the boats"""

[bruuuno]

Meanwhile we are in the middle of a housing crisis

[,]

"HS2 is turning out to be a very British project in that it will not be completed on time, will not have the originally quoted route length/functionality and will cost far far more than the original budget. Another nail in the coffin of so called British exceptionalism."

[Westham67]

"I mean delivery managers not 3rd party consultants, On 3 projects I was 3rd party consultant but I am more production focused. I have been on the wrong end of clueless lazy fuckers who dont want the project to end Main contractor Taiwan , China and Malaysia"

[overbyyer]

"Westham67 wrote... Re: HS2 may not run through to central London -More delays Undoubtedly a cluster fuck. You have been on major infrastructure projects as I have and there would a team of experts in their own field brought in a project home but not here no we dont need help And you'll know that in the Consulting Engineering game, they'll general come up with the projections, solutions and ultimate outcomes that the client (not the public, but whoever is paying the invoices) want and/or need, caveated to death with assumptions and qualifications of course..............."

[overbyyer]

"Mike Oxsaw wrote... Re: HS2 may not run through to central London -More delays Unsurprisingly even the civil engineering costs over-run because the pre-bid land surveys were either not undertaken or culled from whatever existing data was out there (shallow archaeological digs, probably). They also faced strong opposition amongst the wealthy & connected residents of the Chilterns and ended up tunnelling more than they had originally intended, which is far more expensive than cut n fill embankments. A lot of people assume it can just be switched off, but they clearly haven't been near the Phase 1 through the Chilterns - huge amounts of civils have already been done, tunnelling, road levelling, road diversions and permanent closures with compulsory purchases and demolition etc. The amount of land that has been cleared and levelled is enormous. If you travel the route out of Aylesbury either north or south east you will understand how much of Phase 1 has progressed."

[Westham67]

"Undoubtedly a cluster fuck. You have been on major infrastructure projects as I have and there would a team of experts in their own field brought in a project home but not here no we dont need help Even HS2 recruitment is incoherent, When you apply for a job there is a link to upload a cover letter but they only take information from your CV I confirmed that this week after wasting my time to write a cover letter"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"I doubt that inflation is the main cause. If this was tendered traditionally, I suspect the winning bid was a low-ball affair focussed on the civil engineering structures and ""promising"" to factor in the peripherals (track, trains & stations) at a later date. Unsurprisingly even the civil engineering costs over-run because the pre-bid land surveys were either not undertaken or culled from whatever existing data was out there (shallow archaeological digs, probably). Several - even some on here - predicted that HS2 would be the mother of all clusterfucks, and it seems like they were right, after all."

[Westham67]

HS2 construction to be delayed in bid to cut costs https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64901985 Inflation apparently . If HS2 have mobilised contractors then they will have to pay money later in maybe 10 years for them doing nothing The company I have been speaking with did not put a bid in for section 2A. The civils contractor on section 2A are still recruiting for a tunnelling and viaduct staff which means they haven't started

[Westham67]

"I have read more it gets worse breathtaking incompetence from HS2 commercial team how can they not know 2 party's they were going to award a 3rd party consultant / engineer contract had conflict of interests because the held other contract with HS2 HS2 will review the framework of 3rd party contract which means they will take some subsystems out to get around the conflict of interest. This going to be very messy as there will now be new tenders for 2 contracts and 3 different 3rd party consultant entities, 1 is difficult to work with . HS2 have a 3rd party consultant for civil engineering but nothing else so not one document can be approve for track, signalling , power and othesr The man I chatted to on LinkedIn said his mate is on £600 a day and is ""Awful"" I am going to fuck this off and either get into counselling I was speaking to someone who can arrange the training for me which will be free or get some safety law certificates and go back to Malaysia there are few projects coming up"

[Westham67]

*Partly

[Westham67]

Very true the money is going to big British companys party with board members who will do well out of HS2.

[Mike Oxsaw]

"This is getting more and more the hue and tint of an officially sanctioned money-laundering project. The money being laundered is not from guns, drugs, prostitution or people-trafficking, but simply moving wealth from the tax-payer into the accounts of ""preferred"" persons. Put a suit on a gorilla, it's still a gorilla."

[Westham67]

"I have a chat via LinkedIn messaging with seasoned project planner and he said he hates working in the UK and Australia and I agree because they dont get the right staff in to the manage the project and its showing, The UK has zero experience in major rail way project and have not used the track system being used on HS2, Anywhere else there would be team of experienced managers brought in to deliver the project high salaries but would save 10s of millions in the long term HS2 have now announced their 3rd party consultant/ engineer for the sub systems , track , power etc first 2 choices to be awarded the contract have got a conflict of interest as they have other work on HS2 . Now to save money and not award the contract to 3rd choice contractor HS2 are going to review the package of 9 million that makes no sense to me at all because you cannot change a 3rd party consultant contract in order to manoeuvre around a conflict of interest Meanwhile not one drawing can be approved and each one will go through at least 2 approvals and not many pass at the first submittal"