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"Is going to be hardline anti-immigrant, anti-Islamist Gert Wilders. Nice to see other European countries waking up to the existential threat to Europe caused by mass, uncontrolled immigration from the third world. This on a day the UK has released statistics showing a record 745,000 net migration in 2023, which is a shameful and damning statistic."
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"Goose read what I actually said. Yes there are those that choose to ...I certainly didn't say they all.choose to. You are doing it again though.......not all.muslims want gay Muslims killed.....especially the gay Muslims themselves I think.its safe to.say. Mike bearing in mind their rules regarding g how women are only supposed to be seen by other women there'll be a fair few professional.muslim women even in the states you are referring to. As for Muslims not working, there is nothing in their faith saying they need not work. Governments own research shows that much if the unemployment of Muslims is due to discrimination. Christians and Jews here tend to be white. Though eve..Jews have has.to change their names in the past to get work or get into certain.professions. The boat crossings are down mostly to.do.with the weather I should imagine ...and as we have a returns agreement with Albania those coming over will.probably get asylum.given they are coming from.war torn countries"
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"24 Mar 2023 — The Muslim community's rate of unemployment is about twice that of the Jewish and Christian community. (its about 16% amongst women). It's hilarious Debs that you believe Muslim women chose to dress that way. It's oppression plain and simple. I might share some views about the nuclear family but i do not share their views on oppressing women, killing gays and beheading ppl who insuly their god."
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"""Many Muslim women are smart professional.women"". ""Many"" is a very small number in some of the more fundamental Islamic states on this small planet. If your observation is on the number of ""smart professional"" Muslim women over here in the west then do you not think that has an awful lot to do with the freedoms available to them outside the influence of their home or ancestral nation? I've spent a considerable time living and working in 4 Islamic countries and there is still a sizable influential minority in those places who (still) see a woman's role solely as cooking and making babies. These are considered fairly liberal nations, too, but some of the Muslim contractors from less tolerant Islamic states working there wouldn't even talk to, let alone acknowledge, any woman on the team, unless she was in a very minor role."
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"You should be able to use your own eyes as proof, Debs, but if not, look up the last census. ""Almost 70 per cent of Muslim women are out of employment, compared with 27 per cent among Christian women."" They're smart to take the benefits and sit on their arse, I'll give you that."
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"dumbo is correct. all those thousands of 'mostly male' doctors, nurses, accountants and pharmacists arriving by dinghy on a daily basis are such a positive to the future of our country."
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"dumbo is correct. all those thousands of 'mostly male' doctors, nurses, accountants and pharmacists arriving by dinghy on a daily basis are such a positive to the future of our country."
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"Something like 70% of them are out of work, Debs."
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Where did you find that statistic from?
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"*Why do the vast majority in this country choose not to work, then?"
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"""Many Muslim women are smart professional.women"" Why do the vast majority of them choose not to work in this country, then?"
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"Goose if a woman chooses to wear a head covering then as long it's her choice as it is for many Muslim.women in this country then I as supportive as I am for any women choosing to flash her tits in a newspaper or go pole dancing for a living. You talk.about them.as a homogenous group which they are not. Yes there are fundamentalists among them as there in other religions, fundamentalist Christians in tbe US aren't especially hot on women's rights either. Many Muslim women are smart professional.women. Would you consider a Muslim doctor or nurse a threat to.your way of life? Or a Muslim pharmacist or accountant? If anything given how family orientated many ( if not most) Muslim families are that believe in similar family values that you have expressed it makes me wonder why you generalise so negatively about them all. You are accepting migrants as scapegoats for shit government policy which is exactly what the government want you to do. The government used them.to get us out of tbe EU now they are trying to use them to get us out of tbe Council of Europe. Wealthy elites don't give a fuck if there is high immigration they just pretend to so they can strip 68m people of their rights....and there are plenty falling for it hook line and sinker."
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"Is it true that Hamas, as part of their post-conflict regrouping & rebuilding strategy, have created and are seeking to fill urgently the post of Roofseeker-General?"
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"To say that Islam does not pose a threat to Christian cultures is just plain daft as far as I'm concerned. There's no need for goose to discuss what that threat is because it's bloody obvious to everyone. The only reason for ignoring the threat of living alongside a newly introduced different culture that does not respect women, will kill its own family members for being too western, operates under its own laws, hates gays, and kills non-Islamic people in the name of their God all over the world is simply to bury your head for political reasons..."
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"I'd be quite interested to know the thinking behind the mindset of people who don't believe that the the massive increase, over a short timescale, of immigration, both legal & illegal, from within and without the EU is not a problem (for anyone). To make it easier, excluding all cultural impacts, let's start with simple numbers. How many (more) people do YOU think the UK can accommodate every year, and where will (not should - will) they all live upon arrival?"
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"Call me old fashioned but I also tend to think women should be allowed to to wear what they want, dress how they want, go where they want and marry whoever they want. If you consider yourself a feminist Debs it’s impossible to agree with Islam."
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"No you’re right they didn’t hack my head off, but having that happen down the road tends to have an impact on the local community. So unless they chop me to bits it doesn’t count? My mum worked as the finance manager for the school so I know very well the impact seen on resources caused by a surge in the number of pupils in a very short space of time. So yes the direct impact was felt by everyone at the school including me."
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None of that was specifically done to you and Lee Rigby's family have asked that his death should nit be weaponised. Did you struggle with your education due to large class sizes that are an issue even in areas without high.immigration?
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I grew up in SE London and went to school in Woolwich. You know the place where a soldier had his head hacked off in the name of Islam? That was pretty negative. Aside from that my school was the largest of its kind in London and was oversubscribed and overcrowded - largely with Somali muslims. Good enough start or do we need to keep going…….
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Immigration.of Muslims goose. How has it specifically negative affected you?
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How careless of them not to have diced you up into little bits yet then.
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"I think for most people it's the terrorism, the grooming gangs and chopping peoples killing folk over a cartoon that they find unsavory but maybe they're just being overly sensitive?"
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Islam or mass immigration?
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So.how is it especially negatively affecting you then?
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"They actually believe they are somehow disadvantaged and victimised by the normal people like you and me who don’t see Islam as any kind of threat. They’re fundamentally unsound, Debs."
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Where did I say I despise them? I think it’s hugely hypocritical of people who do not face the issues of mass immigration to tell everyone else what they should and shouldn’t put up with.
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