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anyone concerned for their job yet? i've been using it in mine and I can see the writing on the wall before they decide to cut out the middle man. in 20 years I can see a lot of white collar jobs disappearing, with not enough jobs to go around what's the solution, universal wage?

zebthecat wrote: ↑10 Oct 2024, 10:51
I have used code generating tools for years and years and it has not got much beyond that thankfully.

 

The main problem is that Artificial Intelligence is a complete misnomer as it is not intelligent.
It is just advanced pattern recognition right now and, quite apart from that, it makes stuff up.
I have used code generating tools for years and years and it has not got much beyond that thankfully.
Chat GPT is not ging to sit in a meeting with business users and BAs and come up with a techinical solution quite yet.
On TMS this week Ebony Rainford-Brent tried out a cricket quiz that had been generated by Chat GPT. The first two questions and answers turned out to be completely fictional and they gave up after that.

These are clearly questions for your Labour installed NHS AI docbot.

Why can't I get any puberty blocking DLCs for by teenage AI? 

THUNDERCLINT wrote: ↑10 Oct 2024, 07:08 Why don't we have a gender fluid pansexual polyamorous transgender AI of colour yet? Fucking racist bigot coders.

Why don't we have a gender fluid pansexual polyamorous transgender AI of colour yet? Fucking racist bigot coders.

Vexed is 100% correct in his observation regarding algorithms being re-badged as AI.

Take, for instance, Microsoft Office that I'm sure almost everybody is aware of/uses since it's been around since almost the dawn of computing.

All the components in Office (even the peripheral ones like Project & Visio) accept and work with little bits of code called "macros" that (can) automate much of the typing/data entry. What's more, the common code of a macro means that one can interwork between the main Office elements (e.g. a button (or other event) in a spreadsheet can trigger the sending of an e-mail (in Outlook)).

For those who use Word on a daily basis, for as long as I can remember, people have been faffing around getting the font "right", the line spacing "right", the numbering "right". Then there's correcting grammar & spelling mistakes. All that faffing around takes up to about 80% of the time in many people's documentation work.

Word has 3 prime functions that can, at a stroke, eliminate almost all that faffing and increase document production rate significantly:

1. Templates,
2. Styles, &
3. Quick Parts

Master those and not even the most intelligent of Artificial Intelligence will challenge you and you can happily get on using the expertise for which you were initially employed.

wils wrote: ↑09 Oct 2024, 22:39 Think our jobs are safe for a while yet...




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AI is going to replace a ton of jobs in government, councils, NHS, education, finance and accounting. The things being pushed now will be mainstream within 5 years. Tech moves much faster these days. A ton of investment into this and it will wipe out thousands of jobs over next 10 years. 
I have a friend who used to supply vehicles for filming period dramas, films and music videos. AI is now being used by media companies to produce these scenes now without the need to hire any vehicles. It's all digitally created by AI. It means that the days of sets, extras etc. are on the way out. A lot of people in this industry will be gone. Big cost saving for studios.

It will be interesting to see how far it can go when it becomes automated completely because its all only as good as the "Prompts/Input" that you give it. I use it more often than not to churn work out for speed to keep things in the same format and there is often a lot of manual change that is needed.

 

wils wrote: ↑09 Oct 2024, 22:39 Think our jobs are safe for a while yet...




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Think our jobs are safe for a while yet...

I just need to outlast it for 15 years then I'm joining the mass ranks in spending inheritance money on a place in Spain.

It all sounds amazing and SO FUN!

Most of the AI encrusted horseshit out there is just simple algorithms rather than anything that requires a sensible decision to be made. 

 It;s good at doing the 'boring stuff'...syntaxt, typing, research, output.....but can't replace (currently) the application of domain knowledge to ask the right question, or adapt as you go.
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Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 13:33

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 12:46

Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 12:36

So you're basically admitting you and most other 'IT gurus' are frauds? I bet you still charge a £1,500 day rate though!

Ha not really.  It's just not my area of expertise and would previously have needed a true developer (which I'm not).  I understand development but it's not my skillset or dayjob....but Chat GPT enabled me to do something on my own that would previously have needed mutliple people of different skillsets to achieve. 

Glad you realised my dig at 'IT gurus' was in jest (partially, at least).

Sounds like Chat GPT is a helpful tool for tech geeks.

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 12:46

Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 12:36

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 12:15 I use it quite a lot these days.  But it's only as good as the domain knowledge of the person entering the prompt.

It;s good at doing the 'boring stuff'...syntaxt, typing, research, output.....but can't replace (currently) the application of domain knowledge to ask the right question, or adapt as you go.

It helped a lot in working out some aspects of the site migration of WHO...built all the code for me that scraped the old WHO site threads to import into the new site.  Couldn't have done the site migration effectively without it (unless Wills had some other smark approaches).

So you're basically admitting you and most other 'IT gurus' are frauds? I bet you still charge a £1,500 day rate though!

Ha not really.  It's just not my area of expertise and would previously have needed a true developer (which I'm not).  I understand development but it's not my skillset or dayjob....but Chat GPT enabled me to do something on my own that would previously have needed mutliple people of different skillsets to achieve. 

Come On You Irons" wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 12:36

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 12:15 I use it quite a lot these days.  But it's only as good as the domain knowledge of the person entering the prompt.

It;s good at doing the 'boring stuff'...syntaxt, typing, research, output.....but can't replace (currently) the application of domain knowledge to ask the right question, or adapt as you go.

It helped a lot in working out some aspects of the site migration of WHO...built all the code for me that scraped the old WHO site threads to import into the new site.  Couldn't have done the site migration effectively without it (unless Wills had some other smark approaches).

So you're basically admitting you and most other 'IT gurus' are frauds? I bet you still charge a £1,500 day rate though!

charleyfarley wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 11:32 I asked Chat GPT and it said

The impact of AI on jobs is complex and nuanced, with potential for both job displacement and job creation. While AI and automation will inevitably lead to some jobs being taken over by machines, particularly those that involve repetitive or routine tasks, it will also create new opportunities and reshape industries in various ways.1. Jobs at Risk of Automation:

• Routine and repetitive jobs: 
• Certain types of analysis: 

2. Jobs Less Likely to Be Automated:

• Creative and strategic roles: 
• Care and social services:.
• Skilled trades: 

3. New Jobs and Industries:

• AI-related jobs: 
• Human-AI collaboration: 
• Emerging fields: AI could stimulate entirely new industries, from AI-driven healthcare to new forms of entertainment or personalized services, creating jobs we can’t yet fully envision.

4. Reskilling and Adaptation:5. Broader Economic Effects:

• AI might enhance productivity and economic growth, leading to more demand in certain areas, but there could also be inequality as certain jobs are lost while others are created, requiring a proactive societal response to manage the transition smoothly.

In short, while AI will inevitably take some jobs away, it will also generate new opportunities, particularly for those who adapt and learn to work alongside emerging technologies. The focus will likely shift toward roles that require distinctly human skills or advanced technical knowledge.



 

 

stubbo-admin wrote: ↑12 Sep 2024, 12:15 I use it quite a lot these days.  But it's only as good as the domain knowledge of the person entering the prompt.

It;s good at doing the 'boring stuff'...syntaxt, typing, research, output.....but can't replace (currently) the application of domain knowledge to ask the right question, or adapt as you go.

It helped a lot in working out some aspects of the site migration of WHO...built all the code for me that scraped the old WHO site threads to import into the new site.  Couldn't have done the site migration effectively without it (unless Wills had some other smark approaches).

I use it quite a lot these days.  But it's only as good as the domain knowledge of the person entering the prompt.

It;s good at doing the 'boring stuff'...syntaxt, typing, research, output.....but can't replace (currently) the application of domain knowledge to ask the right question, or adapt as you go.

It helped a lot in working out some aspects of the site migration of WHO...built all the code for me that scraped the old WHO site threads to import into the new site.  Couldn't have done the site migration effectively without it (unless Wills had some other smark approaches).

I couldn't give a monkies bollock about it. Talking of someone who would also have the same view, has anyone seen bruuuno around?

Most white collar jobs are bullshit anyway, so bring on the AI revolution.

I asked Chat GPT and it said

The impact of AI on jobs is complex and nuanced, with potential for both job displacement and job creation. While AI and automation will inevitably lead to some jobs being taken over by machines, particularly those that involve repetitive or routine tasks, it will also create new opportunities and reshape industries in various ways.1. Jobs at Risk of Automation:

• Routine and repetitive jobs: 
• Certain types of analysis: 

2. Jobs Less Likely to Be Automated:

• Creative and strategic roles: 
• Care and social services:.
• Skilled trades: 

3. New Jobs and Industries:

• AI-related jobs: 
• Human-AI collaboration: 
• Emerging fields: AI could stimulate entirely new industries, from AI-driven healthcare to new forms of entertainment or personalized services, creating jobs we can’t yet fully envision.

4. Reskilling and Adaptation:5. Broader Economic Effects:

• AI might enhance productivity and economic growth, leading to more demand in certain areas, but there could also be inequality as certain jobs are lost while others are created, requiring a proactive societal response to manage the transition smoothly.

In short, while AI will inevitably take some jobs away, it will also generate new opportunities, particularly for those who adapt and learn to work alongside emerging technologies. The focus will likely shift toward roles that require distinctly human skills or advanced technical knowledge.