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Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)

Posted: 18 Aug 2024, 01:31
by maverick180
I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 30 Dec 2024, 08:03
by Far Cough UKunt
Has the blinking cսnt gone yet?

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 30 Dec 2024, 07:47
by claypole
Alfs wrote: 30 Dec 2024, 01:37 What I'm struggling to understand is, if Sully's sole ambition is simply to remain in the Prem and rake in the tv money, why has he sanctioned the 6th highest net transfer spend over the last 5 years (£276 million).

And if he's happy to invest that kind of money in the squad, why's he such a tight arse when it comes to getting a decent manager and paying some compo?
Sullivan doesn't rate managers, his ego thinks he would do a better job than any manager including Fergie, Guardiola. As long as they deliver the bare minimum and keep the golden goose safe.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 30 Dec 2024, 07:07
by Massive Attack
Lee Trundle" wrote: 30 Dec 2024, 06:52 I had a funny feeling that the last 4 games were a bit a false dawn. I feel a bit for the handful of supporters that got themselves all giddy over scrapping wins against Wolves and draws against the likes of Bournemouth.

How many times have we had 5 put past us recently?
Fucking loads. 3 times this season, 5 times last season. 

For 2 managers who pride themselves on decent enough defensive work, they've shown next to fuck all of it over the past couple of seasons. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 30 Dec 2024, 06:52
by Lee Trundle
I had a funny feeling that the last 4 games were a bit a false dawn. I feel a bit for the handful of supporters that got themselves all giddy over scrapping wins against Wolves and draws against the likes of Bournemouth.

How many times have we had 5 put past us recently?

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 30 Dec 2024, 06:43
by Rusta
For a team like us how can we have over 100 million quids worth of players sitting on the bench from the last transfer window? 

and even more worryingly how can they not get in that team? 

answers on a postcard addressed to a dwarf please 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 30 Dec 2024, 01:37
by Alfs
What I'm struggling to understand is, if Sully's sole ambition is simply to remain in the Prem and rake in the tv money, why has he sanctioned the 6th highest net transfer spend over the last 5 years (£276 million).

And if he's happy to invest that kind of money in the squad, why's he such a tight arse when it comes to getting a decent manager and paying some compo?

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 23:53
by nychammer
We are in no danger of going down and we are not getting rid, you know how this works. This is the model at west ham under Sullivan and anything else is a bonus. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 23:40
by Jaan Kenbrovin
southbankbornnbred wrote: 29 Dec 2024, 23:12 Sure - I don’t disagree, much, Jaan.

But I think we probably only need around 38 points to stay up in what is a very poor bottom third of the league. That’s just 15 more points: in a league with Southampton, Ipswich, Leicester, Wolves, Palace, Everton and…Man Utd!

I hope we improve massively, of course. But at this stage, my guess (purely that) would be that we’ll stumble through to 38-40 points or so. It will be shite, though.

Unless we find a couple of McAvennie & Ward style signings who shake things up and get the side going.
 
 
Yeah absolutely. Don’t think we are in danger of going down. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 23:36
by John Coffey
stubbo-admin wrote: 29 Dec 2024, 21:57 Latest manager update to Ex via Sullivan:

“Will the manager remain after another poor performance?” And the response that I have since we received back is. “Yes, BUT UNDER HUGE PRESSURE”

Read of that what you will...the caps are verbatim from the Goblin

 
Purely a soundbite, nothing else. Sullivan isn’t man enough or honest enough to ever admit that he once again, appointed the wrong man. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 23:32
by threesixty
Honestly, I've seen so many bad performances from West Ham over the years I'm surprised anyone can be shocked by any thing anymore. We've seen teams leagues below us beat us up, part time farmers in Europe destroy us. Under Moyes we got destroyed multiple times. Even last season Palace murdered us at their place (I was sadly sitting in the home end..). This is definitely not the worst I've ever seen us, not even near it really. 

I think people are upset because we're just going nowhere. Maybe thats why it's annoying. We won't be fighting relegation, we won't be getting into Europe and we dont seem to be getting any better at playing football. We have a manager no one asked for so no believes in whatever process or project is going on because it wasn't sold to us, it was just imposed.

So it just feels like a void, an empty season.

He aint getting sacked over a loss to Liverpool, thats for sure. So the only hope is a good transfer window where if he and Tim are worth anything, they need to identify the missing players to make this team tick.
What is good about the second half of the season is that most teams will know their safe by March and tend to let their foot off the gas. This is an ideal time to pick up points for any team that gets their act together. Chelsea did that last season for example.

Maybe we can do that? I dont think that would happen with a new manager though, still need the continuity I feel.
Also, makes wonder why Moyes' last 2 seasons he barely won a game in the second half of the season. Now that was shocking!

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 23:16
by Fauxstralian
Don’t think it will be that high
Maybe 32 or 33 will be enough to stay up 
Reckon Southampton & Ipswich might struggle to get beyond 25

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 23:12
by southbankbornnbred
Sure - I don’t disagree, much, Jaan.

But I think we probably only need around 38 points to stay up in what is a very poor bottom third of the league. That’s just 15 more points: in a league with Southampton, Ipswich, Leicester, Wolves, Palace, Everton and…Man Utd!

I hope we improve massively, of course. But at this stage, my guess (purely that) would be that we’ll stumble through to 38-40 points or so. It will be shite, though.

Unless we find a couple of McAvennie & Ward style signings who shake things up and get the side going.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 23:10
by Fauxstralian
This can’t carry on
Another ludicrous team & set up and didn’t lay a glove on a Liverpool team that didn’t get out of 2nd gear
Was 5 going on 10 if they’d broken sweat
No sign of any improvement after half a season
Why on earth would you think it was suddenly going to improve in any way?

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:56
by Jaan Kenbrovin
southbankbornnbred wrote: 29 Dec 2024, 22:25 We’ve got 23 points and are nine points above the relegation places, with more than half of the season now gone. That’s effectively four games that Leicester need to make up on us.

Gut feeling: he’ll now limp through the rest of this season - like a wounded dog - because Sullivan will (probably correctly) assume we’ll always have our neck just above the floodwaters.

But it means I’ve pretty much written off this season. We’ll most like lose heavily, quite regularly, to decent sides while scraping the odd win against the shite sides - and there are enough of them for us, and Lopetegui, to survive.

But I’m really not expecting much from the rest of this season. Which is poor when you consider what we’ve spent and the position we were in after letting Moyes go. We’ve made a succession of poor decisions.

The big one now will probably be whether we move on from Lopetegui in the summer.
 
 
6 of our remaining away games are against sides that finished above us last season, so unless our home form improves it’s going to be a struggle to maintain the level we are at. Well, unless there is further investment, which at this point is just chucking even more money on the fire.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:53
by eusebiovic
All those moaning melts who follow the Hotspuds keep slagging off poor Postecoglu but the way he plays football aligns much more with us than those twats.

At least when it's good it would be fantastic and when it was bad it wouldn't be for the want of trying. Not like today's result and the Arsenal one. There is no point if we give up before we've even started eh? 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:47
by Mad Ferret
Dago cսnt out NOW.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:41
by Rusta
Get rid now and a caretaker for the City game, Noble or someone. Then the new manager gets a very winnable home game against Fulham to get thing going again...Makes sense to me anyway 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:40
by goose
Depressing isn’t it? The optimist in me wants to believe that Sullivan is suffering this because someone has agreed to take the job in the summer.

Probably just wishful thinking though.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:31
by southbankbornnbred
The one thing I’ll add is that it’s ALL just so tepid and uninspiring following West Ham at the moment. We stick with it, of course, because we’re West Ham and it’s all about us fans as far as I’m concerned.

But there’s very fucking little to get excited about. Shite team, managed by a shite manager in a shite stadium. It’s all just fucking dull and predictable. As always, it’s the core fans who ARE West Ham.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:25
by southbankbornnbred
We’ve got 23 points and are nine points above the relegation places, with more than half of the season now gone. That’s effectively four games that Leicester need to make up on us.

Gut feeling: he’ll now limp through the rest of this season - like a wounded dog - because Sullivan will (probably correctly) assume we’ll always have our neck just above the floodwaters.

But it means I’ve pretty much written off this season. We’ll most like lose heavily, quite regularly, to decent sides while scraping the odd win against the shite sides - and there are enough of them for us, and Lopetegui, to survive.

But I’m really not expecting much from the rest of this season. Which is poor when you consider what we’ve spent and the position we were in after letting Moyes go. We’ve made a succession of poor decisions.

The big one now will probably be whether we move on from Lopetegui in the summer.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:14
by Takashi Miike
I was watching goal kicks today, at times you had areola + kilman + mavro + alvarez all in the box at the same time. no pushing up, no clearing the lines, it was as bad a parking the bus, defeatist display as I've seen. it's just shocking they only scored five

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:08
by lowlife
I’ve backed Lopetegui, and hope that we start to look like a team under him. But tonight that was absolutely shocking.

Clearly put AWB at left back to mark Salah - due to his reputation of being really good in 1v1 situations. Putting Emerson in front of him, who is not a winger, was comical. Surely Sumervillle should have been starting - at the very least that would have given us much more pace down that side.

Shameful lack of commitment on show.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:00
by nychammer
Takashi Miike" wrote: 29 Dec 2024, 21:49 the next run of league games, I've already written off the cup........

City (A)
Fulham (H)
Palace (H)
Villa (A)
Chelsea (A)
Brentford (H)
Arsenal (A)
 
 
Possible 7 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 22:00
by goose
What’s the point? You can’t keep going round & round in this cycle of saving your job then being under pressure.

Just make a fucking decision.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 29 Dec 2024, 21:57
by stubbo-admin
Latest manager update to Ex via Sullivan:

“Will the manager remain after another poor performance?” And the response that I have since we received back is. “Yes, BUT UNDER HUGE PRESSURE”

Read of that what you will...the caps are verbatim from the Goblin