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Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 22:29

goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:11

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:04

“Terminal decline” what a load of bollocks. 

Ford Mustangs out here are a lot cheaper than any of the British imports I mentioned and cheaper than Mercedes and BMW. It’s not even close. Mustang MSRP is $32 k approx Mercedes e350 MSRP start at approx $50k plus. BMW MSRP 3 series is approx $45k


Nobody has won or lost anything, all this conjecture on what will happen to US products in the UK moving forward remains to be seen.

Suffice to say most of the shit being spouted by the usual doom and gloom merchants has been proven to be bollox.

Goose hasn’t been right yet. I wouldn’t listen to him if I were you. 

So Trumps 10% Tariffs are a money maker for the US and Goose said Tariffs wouldn’t work. Looks like the USA came out on top in a big way on this trade deal.


MAGA!

lol this from the genius who said a 45% decline was a golden opportunity  

yes I’d say that’s a terminal decline.

Ford Mustangs are available in the uk, nobody wants them. Like I said they’ve just had their worst sales in 60 years. You’ll probably claim this is another great opportunity  

if tariffs worked so well the markets wouldn’t have shit themselves.
if tariffs worked so well trump wouldn’t have been forced to make an embarrassing U-turn.
if tariffs worked so well then American companies wouldn’t be front loading all their inventories.

The only thing proven to be bollocks is your ability to google simple questions like “how much duty do you pay on US cars imported to the U.K.”

Aren’t you the genius that was calling for the sky to fall in Stocks when others were buying a bargain of a lifetime?

Looking at the US/UK deal Tariffs were working fine for the UK until now, with the new trade agreement looks like Trump came out way ahead, so I’d say Trumps Tariffs have worked a treat so far, if you live in the USA of course.

we’ll see how Us trade in autos and Beef do once the new trade deal is finalized. Don’t be surprised if your doom and gloom bollox is proven wrong again you brainwashed socialist.

goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:11

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:04

goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 18:45 Why do you keep mentioning the Ford Fusion? It already sells in the U.K. and is manufactured in Germany.

And you managed to prove that the pick up market is in terminal decline.

US made cars are a niche market over here, no matter how hard you try to spin it.

“Terminal decline” what a load of bollocks. 

Ford Mustangs out here are a lot cheaper than any of the British imports I mentioned and cheaper than Mercedes and BMW. It’s not even close. Mustang MSRP is $32 k approx Mercedes e350 MSRP start at approx $50k plus. BMW MSRP 3 series is approx $45k


Nobody has won or lost anything, all this conjecture on what will happen to US products in the UK moving forward remains to be seen.

Suffice to say most of the shit being spouted by the usual doom and gloom merchants has been proven to be bollox.

Goose hasn’t been right yet. I wouldn’t listen to him if I were you. 

So Trumps 10% Tariffs are a money maker for the US and Goose said Tariffs wouldn’t work. Looks like the USA came out on top in a big way on this trade deal.


MAGA!

lol this from the genius who said a 45% decline was a golden opportunity  

yes I’d say that’s a terminal decline.

Ford Mustangs are available in the uk, nobody wants them. Like I said they’ve just had their worst sales in 60 years. You’ll probably claim this is another great opportunity  

if tariffs worked so well the markets wouldn’t have shit themselves.
if tariffs worked so well trump wouldn’t have been forced to make an embarrassing U-turn.
if tariffs worked so well then American companies wouldn’t be front loading all their inventories.

The only thing proven to be bollocks is your ability to google simple questions like “how much duty do you pay on US cars imported to the U.K.”

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:04

goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 18:45 Why do you keep mentioning the Ford Fusion? It already sells in the U.K. and is manufactured in Germany.

And you managed to prove that the pick up market is in terminal decline.

US made cars are a niche market over here, no matter how hard you try to spin it.

“Terminal decline” what a load of bollocks. 

Ford Mustangs out here are a lot cheaper than any of the British imports I mentioned and cheaper than Mercedes and BMW. It’s not even close. Mustang MSRP is $32 k approx Mercedes e350 MSRP start at approx $50k plus. BMW MSRP 3 series is approx $45k


Nobody has won or lost anything, all this conjecture on what will happen to US products in the UK moving forward remains to be seen.

Suffice to say most of the shit being spouted by the usual doom and gloom merchants has been proven to be bollox.

Goose hasn’t been right yet. I wouldn’t listen to him if I were you. 

So Trumps 10% Tariffs are a money maker for the US and Goose said Tariffs wouldn’t work. Looks like the USA came out on top in a big way on this trade deal.


MAGA!

goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 18:45 Why do you keep mentioning the Ford Fusion? It already sells in the U.K. and is manufactured in Germany.

And you managed to prove that the pick up market is in terminal decline.

US made cars are a niche market over here, no matter how hard you try to spin it.

Why do you keep mentioning the Ford Fusion? It already sells in the U.K. and is manufactured in Germany.

And you managed to prove that the pick up market is in terminal decline.

US made cars are a niche market over here, no matter how hard you try to spin it.

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 18:25

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 17:06 Nutsack

The UK 10% tarrifs on cars applied to all not just the US. Its not all about you!!!

Oh and now that US cars will be significantly more expensive given the tarrifs applied to the parts they import from Canada and Mexico I suspect we'll be importing fewer US cars this year.

Go MAGA!

Oh and very few of the 18000 US cars imported are cheap many of them are high end Mustangs, Jeeps, Corvettes and Mercs and BMWs it seems. Maybe we'll start getting them from somewhere else who knows, either way they'll probably be more expensive soon.

https://www.motoringresearch.com/slides ... in-the-uk/

Lot less expensive than Rolls Royce, Jaguar, Bentley, Aston Martin and Range Rover.

All bigger cars than a mustang or a fusion. So as far as not fitting the roads in the UK that’s a load of bollox.

Same with pick up trucks, they’re smaller than minivans and SUV’s.

As for the Tariffs my source was Google AI.
Look it up.

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 17:06 Nutsack

The UK 10% tarrifs on cars applied to all not just the US. Its not all about you!!!

Oh and now that US cars will be significantly more expensive given the tarrifs applied to the parts they import from Canada and Mexico I suspect we'll be importing fewer US cars this year.

Go MAGA!

Oh and very few of the 18000 US cars imported are cheap many of them are high end Mustangs, Jeeps, Corvettes and Mercs and BMWs it seems. Maybe we'll start getting them from somewhere else who knows, either way they'll probably be more expensive soon.

https://www.motoringresearch.com/slides ... in-the-uk/

Nutsack

The UK 10% tarrifs on cars applied to all not just the US. Its not all about you!!!

Oh and now that US cars will be significantly more expensive given the tarrifs applied to the parts they import from Canada and Mexico I suspect we'll be importing fewer US cars this year.

Go MAGA!

Oh and very few of the 18000 US cars imported are cheap many of them are high end Mustangs, Jeeps, Corvettes and Mercs and BMWs it seems. Maybe we'll start getting them from somewhere else who knows, either way they'll probably be more expensive soon.

https://www.motoringresearch.com/slides ... in-the-uk/

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 16:34

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:57

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:31

 

Finally a sensible post from Billy. 

The uS sold approx 18,000 vehicles in the UK in 2024, due to Tariffs being 27.5%.
under the new trade agreement that drops to 10% for up to 100,000 cars.

That is a big difference, you will see the number of USA cars sales increase because of it. It’s gonna happen, you’ll see.

A word to the wise, Stop listening to Goose he’s been dead wrong about everything, the idiot didn’t even realize he was a Socialist ffs!

Where do you get 27% tarrifs on cars from? I understand it was 10% on US cars. So if its still 10% which Im not sure if it is or not wont make any difference as Goose says in general  US cars are not fit for UK standards and UK roads. As I said 18000 cars to US manufacturers is zilch and we wont be doubling that any time soon. However the UK exports 101,000 cars to the US and they or their customers will have to eat the 10% but if thats a reciprocal tarrif then thats fair!

 

So the US now has a 10% reciprocal Tariff on the first 100,000 cars sold.

Prior the UK were selling 102,000 cars all of them expensive cars. The USA sold less than 20,000 cars all cheap models. 

What idiot insisted on the 10% Tariffs on US cars being sold in the UK and why? Were they worried if they removed the 10% Tariffs the US would sell more cars, taking market share? What else could it be?

I mean why not just remove the 10% Tariffs altogether ffs? This is beyond idiotic. Now you have a 10% Tariff on 100,000 UK made cars that are sold in the USA.

Whoever brokered this in the UK should be fired.

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:57

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:31

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 14:46 Ffs Nutsack quit while you're behind!

The US auto manufacturers dont give a shit about the tiny UK market. No one is buying Teslas so forget it. Same with beef its a tiny market no one is buying US beef so the "deal" is pointless.

What the US manufacturers actually want is for the tarrifs with Canada and Mexico to be dropped as that is their supply chain fucked currently! US parts sold to Canada and Mexico and vice versa feed the car industry on both sides of the borders. 

 

Finally a sensible post from Billy. 

The uS sold approx 18,000 vehicles in the UK in 2024, due to Tariffs being 27.5%.
under the new trade agreement that drops to 10% for up to 100,000 cars.

That is a big difference, you will see the number of USA cars sales increase because of it. It’s gonna happen, you’ll see.

A word to the wise, Stop listening to Goose he’s been dead wrong about everything, the idiot didn’t even realize he was a Socialist ffs!

Where do you get 27% tarrifs on cars from? I understand it was 10% on US cars. So if its still 10% which Im not sure if it is or not wont make any difference as Goose says in general  US cars are not fit for UK standards and UK roads. As I said 18000 cars to US manufacturers is zilch and we wont be doubling that any time soon. However the UK exports 101,000 cars to the US and they or their customers will have to eat the 10% but if thats a reciprocal tarrif then thats fair!

 

The 10% import duty on cars brought into the UK from the United States has been in place since January 1, 2021. This rate was established when the UK introduced its own UK Global Tariff regime following its departure from the European Union, replacing the EU’s Common External Tariff.Another L for poor old Nutsin.

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 16:06

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:57

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:31

 

Finally a sensible post from Billy. 

The uS sold approx 18,000 vehicles in the UK in 2024, due to Tariffs being 27.5%.
under the new trade agreement that drops to 10% for up to 100,000 cars.

That is a big difference, you will see the number of USA cars sales increase because of it. It’s gonna happen, you’ll see.

A word to the wise, Stop listening to Goose he’s been dead wrong about everything, the idiot didn’t even realize he was a Socialist ffs!

Where do you get 27% tarrifs on cars from? I understand it was 10% on US cars. So if its still 10% which Im not sure if it is or not wont make any difference as Goose says in general  US cars are not fit for UK standards and UK roads. As I said 18000 cars to US manufacturers is zilch and we wont be doubling that any time soon. However the UK exports 101,000 cars to the US and they or their customers will have to eat the 10% but if thats a reciprocal tarrif then thats fair!

 

The new UK-US trade deal significantly lowers tariffs on US cars sold in the UK. The tariffs will be reduced to 10% for the first 100,000 cars exported to the US annually. Any cars exceeding this quota will be subject to a 27.5% tariff. This deal also includes reduced tariffs on steel and aluminum. 

 

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The new UK-US trade deal significantly lowers tariffs on US cars sold in the UK. The tariffs will be reduced to 10% for the first 100,000 cars exported to the US annually. Any cars exceeding this quota will be subject to a 27.5% tariff. This deal also includes reduced tariffs on steel and aluminum. 

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 16:06

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:57

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:31

 

Finally a sensible post from Billy. 

The uS sold approx 18,000 vehicles in the UK in 2024, due to Tariffs being 27.5%.
under the new trade agreement that drops to 10% for up to 100,000 cars.

That is a big difference, you will see the number of USA cars sales increase because of it. It’s gonna happen, you’ll see.

A word to the wise, Stop listening to Goose he’s been dead wrong about everything, the idiot didn’t even realize he was a Socialist ffs!

Where do you get 27% tarrifs on cars from? I understand it was 10% on US cars. So if its still 10% which Im not sure if it is or not wont make any difference as Goose says in general  US cars are not fit for UK standards and UK roads. As I said 18000 cars to US manufacturers is zilch and we wont be doubling that any time soon. However the UK exports 101,000 cars to the US and they or their customers will have to eat the 10% but if thats a reciprocal tarrif then thats fair!

 

The new UK-US trade deal significantly lowers tariffs on US cars sold in the UK. The tariffs will be reduced to 10% for the first 100,000 cars exported to the US annually. Any cars exceeding this quota will be subject to a 27.5% tariff. This deal also includes reduced tariffs on steel and aluminum. 

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:57

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:31

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 14:46 Ffs Nutsack quit while you're behind!

The US auto manufacturers dont give a shit about the tiny UK market. No one is buying Teslas so forget it. Same with beef its a tiny market no one is buying US beef so the "deal" is pointless.

What the US manufacturers actually want is for the tarrifs with Canada and Mexico to be dropped as that is their supply chain fucked currently! US parts sold to Canada and Mexico and vice versa feed the car industry on both sides of the borders. 

 

Finally a sensible post from Billy. 

The uS sold approx 18,000 vehicles in the UK in 2024, due to Tariffs being 27.5%.
under the new trade agreement that drops to 10% for up to 100,000 cars.

That is a big difference, you will see the number of USA cars sales increase because of it. It’s gonna happen, you’ll see.

A word to the wise, Stop listening to Goose he’s been dead wrong about everything, the idiot didn’t even realize he was a Socialist ffs!

Where do you get 27% tarrifs on cars from? I understand it was 10% on US cars. So if its still 10% which Im not sure if it is or not wont make any difference as Goose says in general  US cars are not fit for UK standards and UK roads. As I said 18000 cars to US manufacturers is zilch and we wont be doubling that any time soon. However the UK exports 101,000 cars to the US and they or their customers will have to eat the 10% but if thats a reciprocal tarrif then thats fair!

Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:31

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 14:46 Ffs Nutsack quit while you're behind!

The US auto manufacturers dont give a shit about the tiny UK market. No one is buying Teslas so forget it. Same with beef its a tiny market no one is buying US beef so the "deal" is pointless.

What the US manufacturers actually want is for the tarrifs with Canada and Mexico to be dropped as that is their supply chain fucked currently! US parts sold to Canada and Mexico and vice versa feed the car industry on both sides of the borders. 

 

Finally a sensible post from Billy. 

The uS sold approx 18,000 vehicles in the UK in 2024, due to Tariffs being 27.5%.
under the new trade agreement that drops to 10% for up to 100,000 cars.

That is a big difference, you will see the number of USA cars sales increase because of it. It’s gonna happen, you’ll see.

A word to the wise, Stop listening to Goose he’s been dead wrong about everything, the idiot didn’t even realize he was a Socialist ffs!

It’s been a tough time for Nutsin, I almost feel sorry for him.

after the shock of finding out that America isn’t going to be making iPhones, he’s had to suffer the ignominy of discovering Tesla makes all its uk cars in Germany, the pick up market is in terminal decline, and Ford already making its best selling (cheap) cars in Romania.

and now he’s been rocked by the fact that US beef is pumped full of hormones so they can’t even export it to the U.K.

we will move on to ship building shortly  

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 14:46 Ffs Nutsack quit while you're behind!

The US auto manufacturers dont give a shit about the tiny UK market. No one is buying Teslas so forget it. Same with beef its a tiny market no one is buying US beef so the "deal" is pointless.

What the US manufacturers actually want is for the tarrifs with Canada and Mexico to be dropped as that is their supply chain fucked currently! US parts sold to Canada and Mexico and vice versa feed the car industry on both sides of the borders. 

 

Ffs Nutsack quit while you're behind!

The US auto manufacturers dont give a shit about the tiny UK market. No one is buying Teslas so forget it. Same with beef its a tiny market no one is buying US beef so the "deal" is pointless.

What the US manufacturers actually want is for the tarrifs with Canada and Mexico to be dropped as that is their supply chain fucked currently! US parts sold to Canada and Mexico and vice versa feed the car industry on both sides of the borders. 

Nutsin

goose wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 23:17

Nutsin wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 23:11

I think they’ll figure it out Goose. Just like the auto issue you were spouting bollocks about.

Bit retarded comparing pick up trucks to CD’s don’t you think?
I mean do you really think Pick up trucks are obsolete?

I’d say targeting a market which has dropped off a cliff is the gold standard of retarded.

RE the beef, they feed it hormones to make it grow faster. It’s a cost exercise. When and if they stop, the price goes up.

As for the cars I understand how a Beta wouldn’t get it. Same with the muscle car. But there are other competitive models like a Tesla for example. Perhaps a ford fusion, the hybrids do 45 mpg out here, nice cars.


As for the Beef I’m sure they’ve already thought of that Goose, hardly a secret now is it? OR did you think you had the inside scoop on it LOL.

England now is like someone's thrown a bucket of shit over a beautiful piece of art

goose wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 23:17

Nutsin wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 23:11

goose wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 22:17

Unless they stop feeding livestock growth hormones they won’t be shipping any beef to the U.K.

I think they’ll figure it out Goose. Just like the auto issue you were spouting bollocks about.

Bit retarded comparing pick up trucks to CD’s don’t you think?
I mean do you really think Pick up trucks are obsolete?

I’d say targeting a market which has dropped off a cliff is the gold standard of retarded.

RE the beef, they feed it hormones to make it grow faster. It’s a cost exercise. When and if they stop, the price goes up.

Nutsin wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 23:11

goose wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 22:17

Nutsin wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 22:13

I guess we will have to wait and see.

As for US beef,

US beef is often known for its grain-fed, marbled, and potentially more flavorful characteristics. UK beef, on the other hand, is typically grass-fed and free-range, resulting in leaner meat with a different flavor profile. 


You were saying?

Unless they stop feeding livestock growth hormones they won’t be shipping any beef to the U.K.

I think they’ll figure it out Goose. Just like the auto issue you were spouting bollocks about.

Bit retarded comparing pick up trucks to CD’s don’t you think?
I mean do you really think Pick up trucks are obsolete?

goose wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 22:17

Nutsin wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 22:13

goose wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 21:58

“Declining sales provides a golden opportunity”

hahaha absolute classic. Demand has fallen off a cliff and you think this is your market?? I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

maybe you should hit the DVD market as well while you’re there.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

As for US beef,

US beef is often known for its grain-fed, marbled, and potentially more flavorful characteristics. UK beef, on the other hand, is typically grass-fed and free-range, resulting in leaner meat with a different flavor profile. 


You were saying?

Unless they stop feeding livestock growth hormones they won’t be shipping any beef to the U.K.

Nutsin wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 22:13

goose wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 21:58

Nutsin wrote: ↑09 May 2025, 21:50 Pick up trucks

In 2024, the UK's light commercial vehicle (LCV) market, which includes pickup trucks, saw a 3% increase to 351,834 units. While the overall LCV market grew, the pickup sector experienced a decline. Specifically, the pickup sector fell by over a quarter, finishing 28.1% down on December 2023. 

Declining sales provides a golden opportunity to go in and bring back those that left the market. 

Question is why the decline, US has a superior product and has some nice trucks, seems like a market crying out for better.

Not sure your foresight is accurate as per usual Goose.

I mean every topic results in you guessing the future and you’re always wrong.

Time will tell, but there is a market, the numbers show that.

“Declining sales provides a golden opportunity”

hahaha absolute classic. Demand has fallen off a cliff and you think this is your market?? I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

maybe you should hit the DVD market as well while you’re there.

I guess we will have to wait and see.

As for US beef,

US beef is often known for its grain-fed, marbled, and potentially more flavorful characteristics. UK beef, on the other hand, is typically grass-fed and free-range, resulting in leaner meat with a different flavor profile. 


You were saying?