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There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 19:08
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:56
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:50
Yup ALL the Tesla’s sold in the U.K. are manufactured in Germany and China.
Who knows maybe Elon will open a plant in the UK now we have our new trade agreement.
However I’d like to know how you know exactly what Tesla’s plans are for future production for the UK consumer?

Are you making shit up again?
He talked about it post Brexit but never followed it through.
Theres a reason Tesla use Germany (location & cost). They’re not changing that and neither are you.

Not to mention the fact that American produced cars don’t meet U.K. safety standards so your essentially needing an entire new plant to make U.K. ready cars.
Oh I’m sure the US auto makers can make any adjustments necessary.

Please excuse my cynicism on your forecasts but you’ve been dead wrong on everything, what makes you think you have any credibility?


Poor Goose, just stacking up losses. We’re gonna have to rename you Potter soon.
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:56
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:50
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:41
Poor Goose



Tesla's vehicles are produced at factories worldwide. Here's a breakdown: 
  • Austin, Texas: Currently produces the Model Y, with plans to manufacture the Cybertruck and Roadster in the future. Also Tesla's global headquarters. 
  • Grünheide, Germany: Produces the Model Y. 
  • Fremont, California: Produces the Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y. 
  • Nevada: One of the world's largest plants for electric vehicle components. 
  • Shanghai, China: Produces the Model 3 and Model Y. 
Yup ALL the Tesla’s sold in the U.K. are manufactured in Germany and China.
Who knows maybe Elon will open a plant in the UK now we have our new trade agreement.
However I’d like to know how you know exactly what Tesla’s plans are for future production for the UK consumer?

Are you making shit up again?
He talked about it post Brexit but never followed it through.
Theres a reason Tesla use Germany (location & cost). They’re not changing that and neither are you.

Not to mention the fact that American produced cars don’t meet U.K. safety standards so your essentially needing an entire new plant to make U.K. ready cars.
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:50
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:41
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:34
You mean the Tesla’s that are manufactured in Germany and China? 😂 😂 
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Tesla's vehicles are produced at factories worldwide. Here's a breakdown: 
  • Austin, Texas: Currently produces the Model Y, with plans to manufacture the Cybertruck and Roadster in the future. Also Tesla's global headquarters. 
  • Grünheide, Germany: Produces the Model Y. 
  • Fremont, California: Produces the Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y. 
  • Nevada: One of the world's largest plants for electric vehicle components. 
  • Shanghai, China: Produces the Model 3 and Model Y. 
Yup ALL the Tesla’s sold in the U.K. are manufactured in Germany and China.
Who knows maybe Elon will open a plant in the UK now we have our new trade agreement.
However I’d like to know how you know exactly what Tesla’s plans are for future production for the UK consumer?

Are you making shit up again?
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:41
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:34
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:28
 
A few US cars that will sell in the UK

Ford Mustang and F150 pick up truck.
Chevy Camaro and the Silverado pick up truck, Corvette.

Dodge Ram pick up, Charger

 Cadillac Escalade, CT 5.

Tesla of course.


There’s plenty more.
You mean the Tesla’s that are manufactured in Germany and China? 😂 😂 
Poor Goose



Tesla's vehicles are produced at factories worldwide. Here's a breakdown: 
  • Austin, Texas: Currently produces the Model Y, with plans to manufacture the Cybertruck and Roadster in the future. Also Tesla's global headquarters. 
  • Grünheide, Germany: Produces the Model Y. 
  • Fremont, California: Produces the Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y. 
  • Nevada: One of the world's largest plants for electric vehicle components. 
  • Shanghai, China: Produces the Model 3 and Model Y. 
Yup ALL the Tesla’s sold in the U.K. are manufactured in Germany and China.
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:34
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:28
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:20
And that’s all about to change silly nuts!
 
A few US cars that will sell in the UK

Ford Mustang and F150 pick up truck.
Chevy Camaro and the Silverado pick up truck, Corvette.

Dodge Ram pick up, Charger

 Cadillac Escalade, CT 5.

Tesla of course.


There’s plenty more.
You mean the Tesla’s that are manufactured in Germany and China? 😂 😂 
Poor Goose



Tesla's vehicles are produced at factories worldwide. Here's a breakdown: 
  • Austin, Texas: Currently produces the Model Y, with plans to manufacture the Cybertruck and Roadster in the future. Also Tesla's global headquarters. 
  • Grünheide, Germany: Produces the Model Y. 
  • Fremont, California: Produces the Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y. 
  • Nevada: One of the world's largest plants for electric vehicle components. 
  • Shanghai, China: Produces the Model 3 and Model Y. 
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:28
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:20
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:17
Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.
And that’s all about to change silly nuts!
 
A few US cars that will sell in the UK

Ford Mustang and F150 pick up truck.
Chevy Camaro and the Silverado pick up truck, Corvette.

Dodge Ram pick up, Charger

 Cadillac Escalade, CT 5.

Tesla of course.


There’s plenty more.
You mean the Tesla’s that are manufactured in Germany and China? 😂 😂 
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:23
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:20
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:17
Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.
And that’s all about to change silly nuts!
Hahaha you don’t believe that.
Who’s buying them? Where’s the capacity?
Stop being a retard!
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:20
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:17
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:05
US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:
Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.
And that’s all about to change silly nuts!
 
 
A few US cars that will sell in the UK

Ford Mustang and F150 pick up truck.
Chevy Camaro and the Silverado pick up truck, Corvette.

Dodge Ram pick up, Charger

 Cadillac Escalade, CT 5.

Tesla of course.


There’s plenty more.
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:20
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:17
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:05
US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:
Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.
And that’s all about to change silly nuts!
Hahaha you don’t believe that.
Who’s buying them? Where’s the capacity?
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:17
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:05
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:46
Oh so the manufacturer should make less margin? Great idea, what do you suppose happens when companies start making less profits?

which essential items will the US be manufacturing that it doesn’t currently?
US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:
Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.
And that’s all about to change silly nuts!
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:05
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:46
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:39
“I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US”

Here you go again showing your ignorance.

manufacturing essential items and items of national security yes and others. But not everything numb nuts.

Did you ever think that with more competition prices could come down? OR manufacturers will eat some or all of the Tariffs? Might want to go out and buy some stocks  as they say better late than never. 

Poor old Goose, he’s having a nightmare!
Oh so the manufacturer should make less margin? Great idea, what do you suppose happens when companies start making less profits?

which essential items will the US be manufacturing that it doesn’t currently?
US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:
Semiconductors we’ve spoken about, you won’t be taking manufacturing from China or Taiwan etc etc.

Cars they already manufacture.

Ships, how many ships do you think the US builds a year? Last year it built 10 military ships and 5 commercial ships.
China built over 1,000.
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 18:05
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:46
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:39
“I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US”

Here you go again showing your ignorance.

manufacturing essential items and items of national security yes and others. But not everything numb nuts.

Did you ever think that with more competition prices could come down? OR manufacturers will eat some or all of the Tariffs? Might want to go out and buy some stocks  as they say better late than never. 

Poor old Goose, he’s having a nightmare!
Oh so the manufacturer should make less margin? Great idea, what do you suppose happens when companies start making less profits?

which essential items will the US be manufacturing that it doesn’t currently?
US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:
Rust belt is about to become the Gold belt.

MAGA!
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:46
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:39
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:20
Are you having some kind of mental episode here?

Theres still a 10% tariff on nearly all U.K. imports, which means they’ll cost the consumer more than they did a few months ago. Or it means people will buy less of them. Neither is a great result is it?

I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US? When is that starting?

btw which American cars do you think are going to sell over here?
“I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US”

Here you go again showing your ignorance.

manufacturing essential items and items of national security yes and others. But not everything numb nuts.

Did you ever think that with more competition prices could come down? OR manufacturers will eat some or all of the Tariffs? Might want to go out and buy some stocks  as they say better late than never. 

Poor old Goose, he’s having a nightmare!
Oh so the manufacturer should make less margin? Great idea, what do you suppose happens when companies start making less profits?

which essential items will the US be manufacturing that it doesn’t currently?
US Steel and Aluminum was on life support. Chips and Ships AI, auto manufacturing, Ford is booming and expanding etc:
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XKhammer wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:46 Are we in the 5th set with goose and nutsin?
No, it’s game over!
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:41
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:33
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:20
Are you having some kind of mental episode here?

Theres still a 10% tariff on nearly all U.K. imports, which means they’ll cost the consumer more than they did a few months ago. Or it means people will buy less of them. Neither is a great result is it?

I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US? When is that starting?

btw which American cars do you think are going to sell over here?
Wanker do you remember when Obama said the UK would go to the back of the Queue if they votes for Brexit?

Trump put them first. No Tariffs on Steel and Aluminum.

There are lots of good US cars, you’ll see. 


MAGA!
 
If there’s so many you’ll be able to tell me a few then.
Nah, figure it out yourself! 
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Are we in the 5th set with goose and nutsin?
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:39
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:20
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:13
Wanker! 

Hurts doesn’t it! And there you were telling us all the sky was falling!
what a Div!


Expect some more trade agreements, USA and China meet this weekend good eh!

Ginna love to hear all your wanky comments as Deal after deal gets announced!

Poor Goose!
Are you having some kind of mental episode here?

Theres still a 10% tariff on nearly all U.K. imports, which means they’ll cost the consumer more than they did a few months ago. Or it means people will buy less of them. Neither is a great result is it?

I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US? When is that starting?

btw which American cars do you think are going to sell over here?
“I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US”

Here you go again showing your ignorance.

manufacturing essential items and items of national security yes and others. But not everything numb nuts.

Did you ever think that with more competition prices could come down? OR manufacturers will eat some or all of the Tariffs? Might want to go out and buy some stocks  as they say better late than never. 

Poor old Goose, he’s having a nightmare!
Oh so the manufacturer should make less margin? Great idea, what do you suppose happens when companies start making less profits?

which essential items will the US be manufacturing that it doesn’t currently?
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:33
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:20
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:13
Wanker! 

Hurts doesn’t it! And there you were telling us all the sky was falling!
what a Div!


Expect some more trade agreements, USA and China meet this weekend good eh!

Ginna love to hear all your wanky comments as Deal after deal gets announced!

Poor Goose!
Are you having some kind of mental episode here?

Theres still a 10% tariff on nearly all U.K. imports, which means they’ll cost the consumer more than they did a few months ago. Or it means people will buy less of them. Neither is a great result is it?

I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US? When is that starting?

btw which American cars do you think are going to sell over here?
Wanker do you remember when Obama said the UK would go to the back of the Queue if they votes for Brexit?

Trump put them first. No Tariffs on Steel and Aluminum.

There are lots of good US cars, you’ll see. 


MAGA!
 
 
If there’s so many you’ll be able to tell me a few then.
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:20
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:13
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:09 I prefer my steak without the growth hormones, but each to his own.

Neither Trump or Starmer mentioned the digital tax so I’m assuming it remains.
Wanker! 

Hurts doesn’t it! And there you were telling us all the sky was falling!
what a Div!


Expect some more trade agreements, USA and China meet this weekend good eh!

Ginna love to hear all your wanky comments as Deal after deal gets announced!

Poor Goose!
Are you having some kind of mental episode here?

Theres still a 10% tariff on nearly all U.K. imports, which means they’ll cost the consumer more than they did a few months ago. Or it means people will buy less of them. Neither is a great result is it?

I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US? When is that starting?

btw which American cars do you think are going to sell over here?
“I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US”

Here you go again showing your ignorance.

manufacturing essential items and items of national security yes and others. But not everything numb nuts.

Did you ever think that with more competition prices could come down? OR manufacturers will eat some or all of the Tariffs? Might want to go out and buy some stocks  as they say better late than never. 

Poor old Goose, he’s having a nightmare!
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:20
Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:13
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:09 I prefer my steak without the growth hormones, but each to his own.

Neither Trump or Starmer mentioned the digital tax so I’m assuming it remains.
Wanker! 

Hurts doesn’t it! And there you were telling us all the sky was falling!
what a Div!


Expect some more trade agreements, USA and China meet this weekend good eh!

Ginna love to hear all your wanky comments as Deal after deal gets announced!

Poor Goose!
Are you having some kind of mental episode here?

Theres still a 10% tariff on nearly all U.K. imports, which means they’ll cost the consumer more than they did a few months ago. Or it means people will buy less of them. Neither is a great result is it?

I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US? When is that starting?

btw which American cars do you think are going to sell over here?
Wanker do you remember when Obama said the UK would go to the back of the Queue if they votes for Brexit?

Trump put them first. No Tariffs on Steel and Aluminum.

There are lots of good US cars, you’ll see. 


MAGA!
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Nutsin wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:13
goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:09 I prefer my steak without the growth hormones, but each to his own.

Neither Trump or Starmer mentioned the digital tax so I’m assuming it remains.
Wanker! 

Hurts doesn’t it! And there you were telling us all the sky was falling!
what a Div!


Expect some more trade agreements, USA and China meet this weekend good eh!

Ginna love to hear all your wanky comments as Deal after deal gets announced!

Poor Goose!
Are you having some kind of mental episode here?

Theres still a 10% tariff on nearly all U.K. imports, which means they’ll cost the consumer more than they did a few months ago. Or it means people will buy less of them. Neither is a great result is it?

I thought the idea was to stop importing foreign goods and manufacture them in the US? When is that starting?

btw which American cars do you think are going to sell over here?
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 17:09 I prefer my steak without the growth hormones, but each to his own.

Neither Trump or Starmer mentioned the digital tax so I’m assuming it remains.
Wanker! 

Hurts doesn’t it! And there you were telling us all the sky was falling!
what a Div!


Expect some more trade agreements, USA and China meet this weekend good eh!

Ginna love to hear all your wanky comments as Deal after deal gets announced!

Poor Goose!
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I prefer my steak without the growth hormones, but each to his own.

Neither Trump or Starmer mentioned the digital tax so I’m assuming it remains.
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goose wrote: 08 May 2025, 16:27 The joint press conference was a bit stomach churning, especially with Mandelson there.

details are still being revealed but it sounds like tariffs will come off British steel/aluminium into the US. First 100k cars will be 10% tariff  - it sounds like we only export about 125k a year anyway.

in the other direction Starmer said they've opened up the UK market to US food & agriculture but without compromise on food standards. there was talk of the digital tax on US companies coming off but i haven't seen that confirmed.

apparently US beef is the best in the world..............up until now US beef imports were limited due to added growth hormones.
Looks like you’ll be able to get a proper steak now. Good eh!
Rolls Royce engine for aircraft will be exempt of all Tariffs. In exchange UK will be buying $10 billion airplanes from Boeing. Airline hasn’t been announced yet. Probably BA. 

Give it a minute and you’ll soon learn just how much propaganda bullshit you’ve been getting fed about American food and Autos.

Apparently a big win for tech companies and British Steel. 

Trump said the 10% Tariff is the lowest on offer, other countries will be higher.

Sounds like a win- win! 
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The joint press conference was a bit stomach churning, especially with Mandelson there.

details are still being revealed but it sounds like tariffs will come off British steel/aluminium into the US. First 100k cars will be 10% tariff  - it sounds like we only export about 125k a year anyway.

in the other direction Starmer said they've opened up the UK market to US food & agriculture but without compromise on food standards. there was talk of the digital tax on US companies coming off but i haven't seen that confirmed.

apparently US beef is the best in the world..............up until now US beef imports were limited due to added growth hormones.
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