The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Lee Trundle]

Another WIN for Brexit.

[goose]

Let’s wait & see. The wording is about a ‘deal’ not an agreement, so will likely be some short term exemptions for cars, steel etc etc. 

what it looks like in the other direction nobody has said. 

[Massive Attack]

Yet another multi billion Trade deal soon to be agreed with USA off the back of the India Trade deal.

Yet another Brexit success on the horizon we couldn't have managed before leaving the EU. 

[goose]

Such a simpleton

Funny because those two things (iPhones & inflationary tariffs) are true.

Any increase in prices will be transitory and will be gone once Tariffs are removed. Any Tariffs remaining will be minimal and easily offset with a reduction in energy costs and Trumps Tax cuts. You can also expect to see wage increases finally once manufacturing comes back. So it’s not quite the Issue you pretend it to be. As I said Simpleton!

Funny how you regurgitate the liberal medias threat of possible inflation after we just had 4 years of inflation not seen since the Carter administration.

As for I phones, perhaps they will start making them here or perhaps he misspoke, so what, You do it all the time.

There’s nothing transitory about the costs. They’re permanent and will release an inflationary ‘jump’ on anything imported from the majority of trading partners.

Energy costs have already come down as you keep pointing out, and yet the all items CPI index rose by 2.4% in March. So no, energy will not be offsetting this cost.

not to mention there is no energy benefit if you’re importing finished goods.

you keep saying manufacturing jobs are coming back but haven’t managed to name one product or raw material which is actually going to be made in the US instead of China/india/vietnam/taiwan etc etc etc.

as for liberal media, did you mean your own central bank?

“Powell said if Trump's tariff policies remain in place they were likely "to generate a rise in inflation, a slowdown in economic growth, and an increase in unemployment".”

[nychammer]

US will make deals with most countries, UK included, that will be fair or end in free trade.

China is the big kahuna and not just for the US. China has mobilized in a big way in recent decades in manufacturing. Every firm here selling a product now almost certainly needs it to be made in China to be competitive and turn a profit. Is it not in any way alarming that we have allowed ourselves to as reliant as we now are on China to make many of the everyday goods we rely on as cheaply as they do?

[Nutsin]

Trump expected to announce trade agreement with the UK tomorrow.

The first countries gets the best deal. This is one deal that I hope is good for the UK. 

We will find out the details tomorrow.

[Nutsin]

I’d call anyone who thinks iPhones can be manufactured in the US stupid. Same way I’d call anyone who thinks tariffs aren’t inflationary stupid.

Such a simpleton

Funny because those two things (iPhones & inflationary tariffs) are true.

Any increase in prices will be transitory and will be gone once Tariffs are removed. Any Tariffs remaining will be minimal and easily offset with a reduction in energy costs and Trumps Tax cuts. You can also expect to see wage increases finally once manufacturing comes back. So it’s not quite the Issue you pretend it to be. As I said Simpleton!

Funny how you regurgitate the liberal medias threat of possible inflation after we just had 4 years of inflation not seen since the Carter administration.

As for I phones, perhaps they will start making them here or perhaps he misspoke, so what, You do it all the time.

[goose]

You’re in no position to call anyone stupid mate. Sorry but it’s obvious all you have is a silly I phone argument.

Ill let you major in minors, You might wanna get together and debate Maverick he’s on your level.

I’d call anyone who thinks iPhones can be manufactured in the US stupid. Same way I’d call anyone who thinks tariffs aren’t inflationary stupid.

Such a simpleton

Funny because those two things (iPhones & inflationary tariffs) are true.

[Nutsin]

Hahaha put your cock away.
Jan to March the retail price of eggs actually went up, but  I’m not going there.

im not sure why you’re talking to me about borders, or government spending when this is about tariffs. Trump said the US would manufacture iPhones, he’s either stupid or lying. Which is it?

You’re in no position to call anyone stupid mate. Sorry but it’s obvious all you have is a silly I phone argument.

Ill let you major in minors, You might wanna get together and debate Maverick he’s on your level.

I’d call anyone who thinks iPhones can be manufactured in the US stupid. Same way I’d call anyone who thinks tariffs aren’t inflationary stupid.

Such a simpleton

[goose]

You mean the man who has shut down the border, is putting America first, has brought down inflation, including the price of eggs, has slashed over $160 billion in Gov’t waste and fraud. Who is now reshaping global trade to ensure its fair and open trade for all and has even been known to dodge a bullet.

Yeah that’s the one.

Hahaha put your cock away.
Jan to March the retail price of eggs actually went up, but  I’m not going there.

im not sure why you’re talking to me about borders, or government spending when this is about tariffs. Trump said the US would manufacture iPhones, he’s either stupid or lying. Which is it?

You’re in no position to call anyone stupid mate. Sorry but it’s obvious all you have is a silly I phone argument.

Ill let you major in minors, You might wanna get together and debate Maverick he’s on your level.

I’d call anyone who thinks iPhones can be manufactured in the US stupid. Same way I’d call anyone who thinks tariffs aren’t inflationary stupid.

[Nutsin]

Anyone with half a brain? Does that include Trump who said the US would be producing iPhones?

You mean the man who has shut down the border, is putting America first, has brought down inflation, including the price of eggs, has slashed over $160 billion in Gov’t waste and fraud. Who is now reshaping global trade to ensure its fair and open trade for all and has even been known to dodge a bullet.

Yeah that’s the one.

Hahaha put your cock away.
Jan to March the retail price of eggs actually went up, but  I’m not going there.

im not sure why you’re talking to me about borders, or government spending when this is about tariffs. Trump said the US would manufacture iPhones, he’s either stupid or lying. Which is it?

You’re in no position to call anyone stupid mate. Sorry but it’s obvious all you have is a silly I phone argument.

Ill let you major in minors, You might wanna get together and debate Maverick he’s on your level.

[Nutsin]

And let’s not forget the $10 Trillion in new investments that are now coming in to America since he took office.

Oh and let’s not forget the Houthi’s now capitulating and will cease to attack ships in the Red Sea impacting the Suez Canal, just Trump ensuring safe passage for all ships through one of the worlds most critical shipping lanes in the world.


https://www.israelhayom.com/2025/05/07/ ... nnot-miss/

[goose]

 

Yeah I think anyone with half a brain already understood that we wouldn’t be manufacturing everything in the USA ffs. It’s like talking to a child. And like many with half a brain we also understood that we wouldn’t pull everything out of China. My guess is it will be enough to MAGA!
I also expect Fetanyl production to be a big part of any new deal and I P laws to be addressed along with dumping. China has been taking the piss too long and thankfully Trump has the balls to stand up to them.

Not sure a man without any balls will understand my last point, but you never know.

Anyone with half a brain? Does that include Trump who said the US would be producing iPhones?

You mean the man who has shut down the border, is putting America first, has brought down inflation, including the price of eggs, has slashed over $160 billion in Gov’t waste and fraud. Who is now reshaping global trade to ensure its fair and open trade for all and has even been known to dodge a bullet.

Yeah that’s the one.

Hahaha put your cock away.
Jan to March the retail price of eggs actually went up, but  I’m not going there.

im not sure why you’re talking to me about borders, or government spending when this is about tariffs. Trump said the US would manufacture iPhones, he’s either stupid or lying. Which is it?

[Nutsin]

I know they won’t be making iPhones.
Trump may well get more favourable trade terms, nobody knows yet……… not even you with your magical Indian trade deal.

but what he won’t be doing is manufacturing iPhones or laptops or toys or clothing or the vast majority of semiconductors or solar panels etc etc etc.

 

Yeah I think anyone with half a brain already understood that we wouldn’t be manufacturing everything in the USA ffs. It’s like talking to a child. And like many with half a brain we also understood that we wouldn’t pull everything out of China. My guess is it will be enough to MAGA!
I also expect Fetanyl production to be a big part of any new deal and I P laws to be addressed along with dumping. China has been taking the piss too long and thankfully Trump has the balls to stand up to them.

Not sure a man without any balls will understand my last point, but you never know.

Anyone with half a brain? Does that include Trump who said the US would be producing iPhones?

You mean the man who has shut down the border, is putting America first, has brought down inflation, including the price of eggs, has slashed over $160 billion in Gov’t waste and fraud. Who is now reshaping global trade to ensure its fair and open trade for all and has even been known to dodge a bullet.

Yeah that’s the one.

[goose]

So ignorant!

Trump is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. FACT.

I think you’ll find there is a bit more to the $500 billion Apple switch.

Once again showing just how little you know.

I know they won’t be making iPhones.
Trump may well get more favourable trade terms, nobody knows yet……… not even you with your magical Indian trade deal.

but what he won’t be doing is manufacturing iPhones or laptops or toys or clothing or the vast majority of semiconductors or solar panels etc etc etc.

 

Yeah I think anyone with half a brain already understood that we wouldn’t be manufacturing everything in the USA ffs. It’s like talking to a child. And like many with half a brain we also understood that we wouldn’t pull everything out of China. My guess is it will be enough to MAGA!
I also expect Fetanyl production to be a big part of any new deal and I P laws to be addressed along with dumping. China has been taking the piss too long and thankfully Trump has the balls to stand up to them.

Not sure a man without any balls will understand my last point, but you never know.

Anyone with half a brain? Does that include Trump who said the US would be producing iPhones?

[Nutsin]

 

Better informed  
Good one.

Why I’m laughing is very simple:
Trump said tariffs would bring manufacturing back to the US.
Trump said his tariffs would mean iPhones would be produced in America.
They didn’t.
All Apple did was switch where the shipments go.
So now they won’t be producing iPhones in the US, but the iPhones you do get will be a bit more expensive.

Thats why I’m laughing.

So ignorant!

Trump is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. FACT.

I think you’ll find there is a bit more to the $500 billion Apple switch.

Once again showing just how little you know.

I know they won’t be making iPhones.
Trump may well get more favourable trade terms, nobody knows yet……… not even you with your magical Indian trade deal.

but what he won’t be doing is manufacturing iPhones or laptops or toys or clothing or the vast majority of semiconductors or solar panels etc etc etc.

 

 

Yeah I think anyone with half a brain already understood that we wouldn’t be manufacturing everything in the USA ffs. It’s like talking to a child. And like many with half a brain we also understood that we wouldn’t pull everything out of China. My guess is it will be enough to MAGA!
I also expect Fetanyl production to be a big part of any new deal and I P laws to be addressed along with dumping. China has been taking the piss too long and thankfully Trump has the balls to stand up to them.

Not sure a man without any balls will understand my last point, but you never know.

[goose]

And they won’t be manufacturing iPhones. It would cost something like $2,000 to produce 1 phone.
AI facilities don’t produce iPhones.

Motorola opened a factory in 2013 in Fort Worth in an attempt to manufacture smartphones. It closed within a year due to high costs.


 

[Nutsin]

Here you go limited one.

https://get.ycharts.com/resources/blog/ ... c%20growth.



Apple's $500 billion U.S. investment, announced in February 2025, is a significant move to expand its operations and manufacturing footprint within the United States. This investment aims to strengthen American innovation, manufacturing capabilities, and job creation, particularly in AI and advanced manufacturing. The plan includes building new facilities, expanding existing ones, and boosting investments in various sectors like AI and silicon engineering. 
Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Focus Areas:
  The investment focuses on AI, advanced manufacturing, and silicon engineering, including the construction of a new 250,000-square-foot facility in Houston to produce servers for Apple Intelligence. 
• Job Creation:
  Apple projects creating thousands of new jobs across multiple states, with a specific focus on research and development positions related to AI. 
• Supplier Partnerships:
  The investment also includes expanding partnerships with suppliers across all 50 states. 
• U.S. Manufacturing:
  Apple intends to increase its manufacturing presence in the U.S., with the new Houston facility being a key part of this expansion. 
• Impact on AI:
  The investment signals Apple's commitment to developing AI infrastructure within the United States, aiming to contribute to the country's leadership in the field. 
• Economic Implications:
  The $500 billion commitment could have a significant impact on U.S. economic growth, potentially influencing capital allocation and fixed-income trends

As I said I’m better informed than formed than you.
 

[goose]

Because as per I’m better informed than you. 

so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?

 

Better informed  
Good one.

Why I’m laughing is very simple:
Trump said tariffs would bring manufacturing back to the US.
Trump said his tariffs would mean iPhones would be produced in America.
They didn’t.
All Apple did was switch where the shipments go.
So now they won’t be producing iPhones in the US, but the iPhones you do get will be a bit more expensive.

Thats why I’m laughing.

So ignorant!

Trump is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. FACT.

I think you’ll find there is a bit more to the $500 billion Apple switch.

Once again showing just how little you know.

I know they won’t be making iPhones.
Trump may well get more favourable trade terms, nobody knows yet……… not even you with your magical Indian trade deal.

but what he won’t be doing is manufacturing iPhones or laptops or toys or clothing or the vast majority of semiconductors or solar panels etc etc etc.

[Nutsin]

lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.

But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.

i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.

Because as per I’m better informed than you. 

so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?

 

Better informed  
Good one.

Why I’m laughing is very simple:
Trump said tariffs would bring manufacturing back to the US.
Trump said his tariffs would mean iPhones would be produced in America.
They didn’t.
All Apple did was switch where the shipments go.
So now they won’t be producing iPhones in the US, but the iPhones you do get will be a bit more expensive.

Thats why I’m laughing.

So ignorant!

Trump is bringing manufacturing back to the USA. FACT.

I think you’ll find there is a bit more to the $500 billion Apple switch.

Once again showing just how little you know.

[goose]

It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.

Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again,  it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?

lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.

But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.

i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.

Because as per I’m better informed than you. 

so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?

 

 

Better informed  
Good one.

Why I’m laughing is very simple:
Trump said tariffs would bring manufacturing back to the US.
Trump said his tariffs would mean iPhones would be produced in America.
They didn’t.
All Apple did was switch where the shipments go.
So now they won’t be producing iPhones in the US, but the iPhones you do get will be a bit more expensive.

Thats why I’m laughing.

[Nutsin]

It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.

Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again,  it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?

lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.

But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.

i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.

Because as per I’m better informed than you. 

so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?

Just like a giddy little school girl!

[Nutsin]

Tell me about this deal Trump has struck with India……

It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.

Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again,  it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?

lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.

But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.

i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.

Because as per I’m better informed than you. 

so you laughing at Trump for the I phone move to India was just another example of your TDS ?

[goose]

Starmer strikes a deal with India and it’s good biz

Trump strikes a deal with India and he’s making India great again.

Have a word with yourself, you look ridiculous!

Tell me about this deal Trump has struck with India……

It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.

Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again,  it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?

lol you said “trump does a deal with India”.

But he hasn’t. So yes, the deal Starmers government have finalised is a good deal. When/if Trump gets a deal with India then maybe he can celebrate, but he hasn’t.

i don’t know why you think Trump has done a deal with India.

[Nutsin]

Starmer strikes a deal with India and it’s good biz

Trump strikes a deal with India and he’s making India great again.

Have a word with yourself, you look ridiculous!

Tell me about this deal Trump has struck with India……

It’s yet to be announced but when it is I expect you to come on here and REPEAT that Trump is making India great again.

Not sure if You are confused or simply Lying again,  it was YOU that was on here laughing at Trump for I phones being made in India now not China, it definitely wasn’t me.
So why don’t you tell me about the deal Trump
struck with India?