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Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:47Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:40goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:37Why would I be embarrassed to have voted for the party which gained a huge majority? If I truly believed in them why would I be embarrassed? They won by a mile.
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?Pretty easy to sit there and have a debate as a so called neutral. I’ve been transparent from day one, you either stand for something or fall for anything.
We all know what you have fallen for. Good luck with that because it’s only gonna get a lot worse.Globalism for one. Liberalism for another or should I say Socialism.
Believing what your oppressive Gov’t are telling you. You know the Gov’t you are not allowed to criticize.
Liberal media and their constant fake news that you constantly repeat.
Your left wing brainwashed opinion of Trump. You’ll believe anything you read as long as it is Trump negative.
Yeah you’ve fallen for plenty.
goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:45So you’re comparing the uk agreeing a trade deal with India to Apple re jigging their shipments destination to avoid Trumps tariffs?
yes I laughed about it because it made him look silly for claiming that the US was going to produce iPhones.
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:40goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:37Why would I be embarrassed to have voted for the party which gained a huge majority? If I truly believed in them why would I be embarrassed? They won by a mile.
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?Pretty easy to sit there and have a debate as a so called neutral. I’ve been transparent from day one, you either stand for something or fall for anything.
We all know what you have fallen for. Good luck with that because it’s only gonna get a lot worse.
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:42I phones being built in India now for the American meat remember?
This was when all you had to argue was I phone production and nothing else. Probably a few pages back on this thread.
OR are you gonna lie again and pretend you didn’t mock Trump for the deal?
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:40goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:37Why would I be embarrassed to have voted for the party which gained a huge majority? If I truly believed in them why would I be embarrassed? They won by a mile.
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?Pretty easy to sit there and have a debate as a so called neutral. I’ve been transparent from day one, you either stand for something or fall for anything.
We all know what you have fallen for. Good luck with that because it’s only gonna get a lot worse.
goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:37Why would I be embarrassed to have voted for the party which gained a huge majority? If I truly believed in them why would I be embarrassed? They won by a mile.
apparently because I can tell the difference between employer contributions and employee contribution that means I voted for them.
btw it was the conservatives who cut NI. Because I know that does that mean I voted for them as well?
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:32No all along you’ve been fence sitting pretending to lean right, however it’s apparent that isn’t the case. You’re just embarrassed to admit it because you know it’s a losing hand.
I got you from day one.
goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:22Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:20goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.Sounds like you’re a bit defensive. Your true colours are shining through. Confirms everything Ive been saying about you. Your dirty little secret is out!My dirty little secret that I can read some numbers off a graph or table? Or that I understand when taxes go down instead of up?
Yeh you got me there.
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:21Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:20goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.Sounds like you’re a bit defensive. Your true colours are shining through. Confirms everything Ive been saying about you. Your dirty little secret is out!I’ll take Trump over Starmer any day of the week.
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:20goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 20:34Because he needs a win bad after the elections and the economy is on life support, plus there is the cost of immigration that is gonna continue to rise as more and more pile in. They are already raising N I contributions, taxation is through the roof and benefits are getting cut. Desperate times call for desperate measures.No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.Sounds like you’re a bit defensive. Your true colours are shining through. Confirms everything Ive been saying about you. Your dirty little secret is out!
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:20goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 20:34Because he needs a win bad after the elections and the economy is on life support, plus there is the cost of immigration that is gonna continue to rise as more and more pile in. They are already raising N I contributions, taxation is through the roof and benefits are getting cut. Desperate times call for desperate measures.No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.Sounds like you’re a bit defensive. Your true colours are shining through. Confirms everything Ive been saying about you. Your dirty little secret is out!
goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 21:01Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 20:34Because he needs a win bad after the elections and the economy is on life support, plus there is the cost of immigration that is gonna continue to rise as more and more pile in. They are already raising N I contributions, taxation is through the roof and benefits are getting cut. Desperate times call for desperate measures.No more desperate for a trade deal than Trump is I would say. Who wouldn’t want a mutually beneficial deal with the fastest growing economy in the G20.
The UK economy actually grew more than the US in Q1 although that’s nothing to write home about.
As for taxation, no it hasn’t gone up. It actually went down last year. Employer contributions have gone up.
If you look at taxation + healthcare contributions as a % of GDP the U.K. is pretty much in line with the USA.
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 20:34goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 20:22Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:39No harm in verifying Goose son. I mean it’s not like they haven’t lied before now is it?
After the shocking results of recent elections Starmer needed a win so the timing seems perfect to deflect from the reality of the misery they are causing.
Just curious to know the level of desperation and concessions given up to get it.What makes you think it was desperation?Because he needs a win bad after the elections and the economy is on life support, plus there is the cost of immigration that is gonna continue to rise as more and more pile in. They are already raising N I contributions, taxation is through the roof and benefits are getting cut. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 20:22Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:39No harm in verifying Goose son. I mean it’s not like they haven’t lied before now is it?
After the shocking results of recent elections Starmer needed a win so the timing seems perfect to deflect from the reality of the misery they are causing.
Just curious to know the level of desperation and concessions given up to get it.What makes you think it was desperation?
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:39goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:28Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:18So I see they are citing “Indian sources” Guess we will have to wait for the details of the agreement to be published to find out the reality. Hopefully this report isn’t more lies.
Personally I prefer the UK and USA to trade with India instead of China, so I like the concept. Although I think most would agree any concessions on N I contributions to any particular group would be unacceptable.It’s widely reported and was confirmed by the trade minister this morning. It’s a fact.
The same terms are offered to people from many other countries. Why should they be paying into a pension when they’re only here temporarily and cannot claim a state pension?No harm in verifying Goose son. I mean it’s not like they haven’t lied before now is it?
After the shocking results of recent elections Starmer needed a win so the timing seems perfect to deflect from the reality of the misery they are causing.
Just curious to know the level of desperation and concessions given up to get it.
goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:28Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:18goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:03https://www.ft.com/content/7f1337ff-5e3 ... c592918323
- Labour Mobility: The agreement includes a provision exempting Indian professionals temporarily seconded to the UK from national insurance contributions for up to three years.
So I see they are citing “Indian sources” Guess we will have to wait for the details of the agreement to be published to find out the reality. Hopefully this report isn’t more lies.
Personally I prefer the UK and USA to trade with India instead of China, so I like the concept. Although I think most would agree any concessions on N I contributions to any particular group would be unacceptable.It’s widely reported and was confirmed by the trade minister this morning. It’s a fact.
The same terms are offered to people from many other countries. Why should they be paying into a pension when they’re only here temporarily and cannot claim a state pension?
Nutsin wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:18goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:03https://www.ft.com/content/7f1337ff-5e3 ... c592918323
- Labour Mobility: The agreement includes a provision exempting Indian professionals temporarily seconded to the UK from national insurance contributions for up to three years.
So I see they are citing “Indian sources” Guess we will have to wait for the details of the agreement to be published to find out the reality. Hopefully this report isn’t more lies.
Personally I prefer the UK and USA to trade with India instead of China, so I like the concept. Although I think most would agree any concessions on N I contributions to any particular group would be unacceptable.
goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:03https://www.ft.com/content/7f1337ff-5e3 ... c592918323
- Labour Mobility: The agreement includes a provision exempting Indian professionals temporarily seconded to the UK from national insurance contributions for up to three years.
goose wrote: ↑07 May 2025, 19:03https://www.ft.com/content/7f1337ff-5e3 ... c592918323
- Labour Mobility: The agreement includes a provision exempting Indian professionals temporarily seconded to the UK from national insurance contributions for up to three years.