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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 21:45
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 21:34
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 21:19
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 21:04
Moving production to India for now is smart as there will be no supply chain issues.
New trade agreements will settle if we want or need to make them here.
One things for sure, Trump will do what makes sense and what’s best for the USA.
Poor Goose,
I’d keep an eye on Chinese factory output if I were you. Not looking good, reports of civil unrest and layoffs are already happening across China.
China has quietly removed some Tariffs too and are now willing to negotiate, although don’t expect things to get ironed out over night. I’d expect more production to be moved away from China and in to other countries.
People are sick of the way China cheats with IP theft and Dumping and currency manipulation. China plays dirty and now is a good time to get away from all their u fair trade tactics.
It makes sense because it’s cheaper with already established supply chains that are incredibly complex. They aren’t moving their manufacturing from China or India to the US, it’s just not happening.
What moves and to where remains to be seen. But manufacturing in the US will explode, doubtful it will be for manufacturing kids toys and small ticket items. However Tech, Chips, Technology, Auto, pharma, steel, shipbuilding will all see a renaissance in the USA, amongst others.
One things for sure the US will manufacture any product considered a necessity for National security interests. No more supply chain threats for essentials.
China will have to restructure its economy something they don’t want to do. So we will see how it all shoes out but Trump holds the cards.
Something like 50% of US defence systems & infrastructure uses chips from China. Good luck with that.
As I showed you previously, you cannot make semiconductors without China. The US doesn’t have the REEs or the processing capability. Nobody has anywhere near the scale required outside of China.
Same with pharmaceuticals, about 80% of the active ingredients come from China.
You’re living in a dreamland.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 21:41
by BillyJenningsBoots
So Japenese Company buys an American steel company (thats making America great) and spends money on its investment. Not sure you understand any of this Nutsack!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 21:37
by Sydney_Iron
Australian election yesterday almost mirrored what happened in Canada!
A couple of months ago the center right opposition looking good to win, then all the Trump shenanigans and the center left win comfortably with the leader of the opposition losing his seat.
How much Trump played a part is debatable, but one side distanced themselves from his type of policy’s and the other suggested we should consider similar?????
Should be said that Australias version of Labour (Labor here) is very different to Sir Keir and co!!!! Similar name only really who are more center than left.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 21:34
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 21:19
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 21:04
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:48
It was Trump and his administration who said they’d be making iPhones in the USA.
Moving production to India for now is smart as there will be no supply chain issues.
New trade agreements will settle if we want or need to make them here.
One things for sure, Trump will do what makes sense and what’s best for the USA.
Poor Goose,
I’d keep an eye on Chinese factory output if I were you. Not looking good, reports of civil unrest and layoffs are already happening across China.
China has quietly removed some Tariffs too and are now willing to negotiate, although don’t expect things to get ironed out over night. I’d expect more production to be moved away from China and in to other countries.
People are sick of the way China cheats with IP theft and Dumping and currency manipulation. China plays dirty and now is a good time to get away from all their u fair trade tactics.
It makes sense because it’s cheaper with already established supply chains that are incredibly complex. They aren’t moving their manufacturing from China or India to the US, it’s just not happening.
What moves and to where remains to be seen. But manufacturing in the US will explode, doubtful it will be for manufacturing kids toys and small ticket items. However Tech, Chips, Technology, Auto, pharma, steel, shipbuilding will all see a renaissance in the USA, amongst others.
One things for sure the US will manufacture any product considered a necessity for National security interests. No more supply chain threats for essentials.
China will have to restructure its economy something they don’t want to do. So we will see how it all shoes out but Trump holds the cards.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 21:19
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 21:04
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:48
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:33
Here is the published announcement from Apple dated Feb 2025. Announcing a $500 billion investment into US manufacturing.
I suggest you read it because it doesn’t mention making I phones.
Once again you have proven yourself to be clueless.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/ ... our-years/
Poor Goose, just keeps digging a bigger hole.
It was Trump and his administration who said they’d be making iPhones in the USA.
Moving production to India for now is smart as there will be no supply chain issues.
New trade agreements will settle if we want or need to make them here.
One things for sure, Trump will do what makes sense and what’s best for the USA.
Poor Goose,
I’d keep an eye on Chinese factory output if I were you. Not looking good, reports of civil unrest and layoffs are already happening across China.
China has quietly removed some Tariffs too and are now willing to negotiate, although don’t expect things to get ironed out over night. I’d expect more production to be moved away from China and in to other countries.
People are sick of the way China cheats with IP theft and Dumping and currency manipulation. China plays dirty and now is a good time to get away from all their u fair trade tactics.
It makes sense because it’s cheaper with already established supply chains that are incredibly complex. They aren’t moving their manufacturing from China or India to the US, it’s just not happening.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 21:06
by Nutsin
That’s all you get for now Billy,
although there is more if you want to see them.
Just let me know.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 21:04
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:48
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:33
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:16
They’re facts.
The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.
Here is the published announcement from Apple dated Feb 2025. Announcing a $500 billion investment into US manufacturing.
I suggest you read it because it doesn’t mention making I phones.
Once again you have proven yourself to be clueless.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/ ... our-years/
Poor Goose, just keeps digging a bigger hole.
It was Trump and his administration who said they’d be making iPhones in the USA.
Moving production to India for now is smart as there will be no supply chain issues.
New trade agreements will settle if we want or need to make them here.
One things for sure, Trump will do what makes sense and what’s best for the USA.
Poor Goose,
I’d keep an eye on Chinese factory output if I were you. Not looking good, reports of civil unrest and layoffs are already happening across China.
China has quietly removed some Tariffs too and are now willing to negotiate, although don’t expect things to get ironed out over night. I’d expect more production to be moved away from China and in to other countries.
People are sick of the way China cheats with IP theft and Dumping and currency manipulation. China plays dirty and now is a good time to get away from all their u fair trade tactics.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:55
by Nutsin
Billy
Looks
like the EU are ready to cave
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/05/01/busi ... mp-tariffs
I wonder what Trumps counter offer will be?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:48
by Nutsin
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:48
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:33
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:16
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:13
So desperate!
They’re facts.
The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.
Here is the published announcement from Apple dated Feb 2025. Announcing a $500 billion investment into US manufacturing.
I suggest you read it because it doesn’t mention making I phones.
Once again you have proven yourself to be clueless.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/ ... our-years/
Poor Goose, just keeps digging a bigger hole.
It was Trump and his administration who said they’d be making iPhones in the USA.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:46
by Nutsin
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:44
by Nutsin
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:41
by Nutsin
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:33
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:16
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:13
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:01
Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.
Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.
thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.
So desperate!
They’re facts.
The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.
Here is the published announcement from Apple dated Feb 2025. Announcing a $500 billion investment into US manufacturing.
I suggest you read it because it doesn’t mention making I phones.
Once again you have proven yourself to be clueless.
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/02/ ... our-years/
Poor Goose, just keeps digging a bigger hole.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:29
by BillyJenningsBoots
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:13
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:01
Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.
Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.
thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.
So desperate!
But true... look it up Nutsack.
Saying so desperate is a cop out. A lot in that list are already in the states and are just expanding as they would've done whoever was in the White House.
All you ever do is attribute the positives to Trump and the negatives to Biden without understanding any of the real reasons behind them, but the US economy was running better than most countries around the world GDP up 2.4%. Lets see what it looks like after the trade war has died down and we'll see who the trade winners are.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:22
by Fauxstralian
Interesting that the Canadian government was struggling coming into the election
The opposition ends up aligned with Trump so Carney comes back from the dead & wins
Similar in Australia where the sitting Labor govt was floundering until Dutton embraced Trump … Labor wins in a landslide & Dutton as opposition leader loses his seat
Lets see where we are in a few weeks when the reduction of shipments from China sees US warehouses & distribution centres start laying off staff.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:16
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:13
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:01
Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.
Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.
thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.
So desperate!
They’re facts.
The most important fact being Trumps embarrassing U-turn he was forced into.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:13
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 20:01
Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.
Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.
thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.
So desperate!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 20:01
by goose
Apple, TSMC, Softbank, had all announced investment in 2024.
Let’s see when these magical iPhones, laptops, semiconductors etc etc all move from China to the USA………. I won’t hold my breath.
thats if Trump actually lands these tariffs and doesn’t have to U-turn again in a couple of months.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 19:36
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 19:28
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 19:19
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:43
But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.
And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.
Which manufacturing is relocating to America?
I already posted the list, there are plenty listed there and that’s just the beginning. Wait and see all the new investments that are announced with the new trade agreements. You’ll be crying in your corn flakes.
Not to mention the removal of Tariffs that were in place levied against the US companies d trade barriers that were in place.
Gonna be hilarious watching you squirm with your petty whataboutism’s.
Poor old goose thinks he is having his Spartacus moment!
fucking Bozo! Ag ag ag!
A list of ‘investments’ which were by and large planned before Trump took charge. Brilliant. Reminds me of the conservatives and their new hospitals which weren’t actually new.
All of which will cost more in borrowing thanks to Trump.
whereas the first real opportunity to move manufacturing to the US by one the globes biggest manufacturers…….. and they said no. There’s a reason all of these companies offshore this stuff, and tariffs doesn’t change that.
Tariffs that were such a great idea that the markets shit their pants and forced Trump to make an embarrassing U-turn. Let me know when the US starts making iPhones like Trump said they would.
Now you’re making shit up! Why am I not surprised.
Typical Libtard move.
You should be embarrassed.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 19:33
by Nutsin
only1billybonds wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 16:29
Think Reform are gaining so much support with many whose attitude is "fuck it,why not. The Tories were next to useless in the end and Labour are shambolic after only 9 months in office. Starmer is seen as an absolute coward/liar/fraud by many and the feeling is the country is at its lowest ebb since the war so let's give something new a try.
Saying all that, there's no doubt that Labour or the Tories will find a way to sneak back in next time.
The way I see it is that it’s only gonna get a lot worse under Labour, the writing is on the wall, Reform will be next up. Although they will have their work cut out for them. Perhaps things getting worse is what’s needed to get the change that you all need.
One things for certain, the country is on the wrong track and reform is needed. Took a minute but looks like the country is finally waking up!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 19:28
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 19:19
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:43
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:32
Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose.
Thats a fact.
As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?
well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!
Gotta laugh at this Bozo!
But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.
And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.
Which manufacturing is relocating to America?
I already posted the list, there are plenty listed there and that’s just the beginning. Wait and see all the new investments that are announced with the new trade agreements. You’ll be crying in your corn flakes.
Not to mention the removal of Tariffs that were in place levied against the US companies d trade barriers that were in place.
Gonna be hilarious watching you squirm with your petty whataboutism’s.
Poor old goose thinks he is having his Spartacus moment!
fucking Bozo! Ag ag ag!
A list of ‘investments’ which were by and large planned before Trump took charge. Brilliant. Reminds me of the conservatives and their new hospitals which weren’t actually new.
All of which will cost more in borrowing thanks to Trump.
whereas the first real opportunity to move manufacturing to the US by one the globes biggest manufacturers…….. and they said no. There’s a reason all of these companies offshore this stuff, and tariffs doesn’t change that.
Tariffs that were such a great idea that the markets shit their pants and forced Trump to make an embarrassing U-turn. Let me know when the US starts making iPhones like Trump said they would.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 19:19
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:43
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:32
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:47
Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?
So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.
make India great again
Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose.
Thats a fact.
As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?
well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!
Gotta laugh at this Bozo!
But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.
And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.
Which manufacturing is relocating to America?
I already posted the list, there are plenty listed there and that’s just the beginning. Wait and see all the new investments that are announced with the new trade agreements. You’ll be crying in your corn flakes.
Not to mention the removal of Tariffs that were in place levied against the US companies d trade barriers that were in place.
Gonna be hilarious watching you squirm with your petty whataboutism’s.
Poor old goose thinks he is having his Spartacus moment!
fucking Bozo! Ag ag ag!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 18:43
by goose
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 18:32
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:47
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:18
Gotta laugh at your desperation!
Poor Goose, looking for any little prayer he can cling on to.
Tariffs have been around for 1 month.
Oops!
ag ag ag ag!
ag ag ag ag!
Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?
So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.
make India great again
Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose.
Thats a fact.
As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?
well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!
Gotta laugh at this Bozo!
But one of the products that Trump claimed would move to US production hasn’t, it’ll be made in India. It’s hardly insignificant is it? We’re talking one of the globes biggest manufacturers.
And you see the same for all tech, electronics, toys & games, clothing and ‘chips’.
Which manufacturing is relocating to America?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 03 May 2025, 18:32
by Nutsin
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:47
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:18
goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:51
We’re talking about manufacturing here.
Are you saying the US bureau of labour statistics are lying and 1,000 manufacturing jobs weren’t lost?
The sky has momentarily been held up because Trump was forced into an embarrassing backtrack on tariffs.
Gotta laugh at your desperation!
Poor Goose, looking for any little prayer he can cling on to.
Tariffs have been around for 1 month.
Oops!
ag ag ag ag!
ag ag ag ag!
Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?
So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.
make India great again
Tariffs were implemented on April 2nd goose.
Thats a fact.
As for when are the manufacturing jobs coming back?
well its hard to say exactly as nobody knows when the new trade agreements will be struck, but it’s safe to assume it’s not gonna be in 1 month ffs!
Gotta laugh at this Bozo!
