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Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 17:18

goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:51

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:44

Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!

Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.

 Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?

We’re talking about manufacturing here.
Are you saying the US bureau of labour statistics are lying and 1,000 manufacturing jobs weren’t lost?

The sky has momentarily been held up because Trump was forced into an embarrassing backtrack on tariffs. 

Gotta laugh at your desperation! 

Poor Goose, looking for any little prayer he can cling on to.

Tariffs have been around for 1 month. 

Oops!

ag ag ag ag!

ag ag ag ag!

Oh so now the tariffs have only been around a month so nothing can be attributed to them? Or it can only be attributed to them when it suits you?

So when are these manufacturing jobs all coming back to the US? Because none have so far, and Apple showed you exactly what will happen.

make India great again  

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 13:39

goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 07:58

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 00:12

So the sky isn’t falling now then?

All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.

Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’

LOL!

Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?

India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.

Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.

Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive. 

absolute genius

the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.

Here you go lying again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/


And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been. 
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.

China will do more to stop Fetanyl 

IP laws will have to be followed

Dumping will have to stop

Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.

And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.


So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.

Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.

All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
 
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.

I bet if you look into those numbers a lot of it will be dubious rehashes of previous commitments re-announced to suck up to President Trumpalumpa.

For example is that $500bn Apple have promised on top of what they committed to spend in 2021 i.e the $430bn under Biden - no probably not!  

goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:51

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:44

goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:04

 

Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.

Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.

No US jobs have been created.

deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol

https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/

“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”

Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!

Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.

 Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?

We’re talking about manufacturing here.
Are you saying the US bureau of labour statistics are lying and 1,000 manufacturing jobs weren’t lost?

The sky has momentarily been held up because Trump was forced into an embarrassing backtrack on tariffs. 

Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 09:48 Billy, agreed the Conservatives have been decimated. Badenoch has to go. 

My choice would be Jacob Rees Mogg

Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:04 Bungo, a lot of people in the party don't like him for his anachronistic views, it's not for nothing that Jacob Rees Mogg is known as the honourable member for the eighteenth century, which gets my vote.

I'm not quite sure that he has what we'd call 'the common touch'?

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:44

goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:04

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 13:39

Here you go lying again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/


And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been. 
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.

China will do more to stop Fetanyl 

IP laws will have to be followed

Dumping will have to stop

Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.

And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.


So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.

Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.

All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
 
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.

 

Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.

Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.

No US jobs have been created.

deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol

https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/

“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”

Stop lying, you’re embarassing yourself. It’s all over the thread what you have been arguing ffs!

Job numbers were just released, They showed 177,000 new jobs, with a big increase from the private sector. Was received as a strong report.
As I’ve been saying stop reading the propoganda bullshit, they’re mugging you off.
The fact that Trump has been in office 100 days and you are already desperately seeking a win is comical.

 Can we now finally agree the sky is not falling?

goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 14:04

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 13:39

goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 07:58

Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive. 

absolute genius

the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.

Here you go lying again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/


And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been. 
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.

China will do more to stop Fetanyl 

IP laws will have to be followed

Dumping will have to stop

Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.

And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.


So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.

Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.

All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
 
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.

 

Amazing that I’m lying about something that I’ve never mentioned, not once.

Apple already produces in India. All they’ve done is route all the Indian production to the US and will use China to service the rest of the globe. It’s cost them $900m which will likely be passed on to consumers.

No US jobs have been created.

deffo bringing back those US manufacturing jobs lol

https://www.cityam.com/us-manufacturing ... a-revival/

“US manufacturing suffered 1,000 job losses in April in a blow to President Trump’s hopes to drive up employment in the sector.”

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 13:39

goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 07:58

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 00:12

So the sky isn’t falling now then?

All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.

Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’

LOL!

Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?

India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.

Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.

Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive. 

absolute genius

the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.

Here you go lying again.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... as-future/


And to be clear my rhetoric as you well know has been. 
No, the sky is not falling
No, China can’t win this Tariff battle with the USA as the USA can always find alternatives for product but China can’t replace the US Consumer.
Trump will end up coming out way ahead as he will bring manufacturing Jobs back, which is already happening, see the link above.
Trade barriers against US companies will be removed as will Tariffs already in place against US companies.

China will do more to stop Fetanyl 

IP laws will have to be followed

Dumping will have to stop

Amd certain supply chains from China will be replaced due to national security concerns.

And the stock market will rebound which is why I bought the sell of in Tech stock and Treasuries.


So stop trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as just another libtard. We all k ow the liberal playbook, it didn’t work the first time.

Just admit, You are wrong about the Tariffs just like you have been wrong about practically everything else. Including the U K.

All anyone has to do is read the thread ffs!
 
Poor Goose floundering all over the place.

goose wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 07:58

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 00:12

goose wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 20:42 Didn’t Trump say they’d make Apple manufacture iPhones in the US??




 

So the sky isn’t falling now then?

All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.

Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’

LOL!

Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?

India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.

Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.

Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive. 

absolute genius

the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.

Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 09:48 Billy, agreed the Conservatives have been decimated. Badenoch has to go. 

My choice would be Jacob Rees Mogg

I always got the feeling that she was put in place when she was so they could show their 'progress' by putting in somebody more electable before the next election.

I too am sure that JRM would fit that bill admirably!

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 00:12

goose wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 20:42 Didn’t Trump say they’d make Apple manufacture iPhones in the US??



 

So the sky isn’t falling now then?

All that fearmongering you’ve been lapping up like the good lil Libtard you really are is being proven wrong.

Trump is proving the Doomers wrong and all you’ve got now is Apple ffs!!’

LOL!

Doesn’t appear Apple has the supply chain issues you’ve been banging on about does it?

India will be making all US production for the I phone for now.

Poor old Goose, just doesn’t have a clue.

Are you joking?
Your entire rhetoric has been about tariffs bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US. All that’s happened is those manufacturing jobs have moved from China to India…….. and made them more expensive. 

absolute genius

the market recovery you are celebrating happened because……… Trump was forced to pause tariffs. Watch the reaction in 3 months when/if they’re reintroduced.

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 23:19

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 17:06 It’s refreshing to see Labour imploding. Hopefully Starmer has nowhere to hide and Labour are forced to hold an early GE rather than continue to destroy the country, representing almost no-one.




 

Its the tories that have had the worst of it. Clearly no longer the party of opposition losing 670+ councillors!! Badenoch called it a blood-bath!

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑03 May 2025, 00:32 677 seats and 10 Councils altogether, as well as the stunning By-election win concludes Reforms local dominance in the elections.

Wales is next on the agenda for Reform to win over and it's very possible with their current direction of travel. 

Conservatives like you say are done and it's only a matter of time before Reform hoover up most of their support. The issue Labour have is their appeal to the red wall heartlands that Starmer continues to prove that he just doesn't get at all. Lib Dems will gain but nothing on the scale that will derail Reforms rise potentially towards power at the next GE. 

And to prove just how utterly out of touch Starmer is, his answer is "We must go further and faster with our current change!". Oh please do dickhead, you are the useful clueless moron that Reform needs to continue to grow. 

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 23:39

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 23:19

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 17:06 It’s refreshing to see Labour imploding. Hopefully Starmer has nowhere to hide and Labour are forced to hold an early GE rather than continue to destroy the country, representing almost no-one.





 

Its the tories that have had the worst of it. Clearly no longer the party of opposition losing 670+ councillors!! Badenoch called it a blood-bath!

Both Parties for different reasons have been smashed to bits during these local and by-elections. 

goose wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 20:42 Didn’t Trump say they’d make Apple manufacture iPhones in the US??


 

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 23:19

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 17:06 It’s refreshing to see Labour imploding. Hopefully Starmer has nowhere to hide and Labour are forced to hold an early GE rather than continue to destroy the country, representing almost no-one.



 

Its the tories that have had the worst of it. Clearly no longer the party of opposition losing 670+ councillors!! Badenoch called it a blood-bath!

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 17:06 It’s refreshing to see Labour imploding. Hopefully Starmer has nowhere to hide and Labour are forced to hold an early GE rather than continue to destroy the country, representing almost no-one.

 

goose wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 19:54

Nutsin wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 19:15 Goose,

US stock market has had 9 straight days of gains, longest run in 21 years. Does that mean the recession is off now?





 

YTD the US markets are anywhere from 4% to 8% down depending on which one you look at.

In that time JPM has raised the possibility of a US recession, as did Goldman.

Nutsin wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 19:15 Goose,

US stock market has had 9 straight days of gains, longest run in 21 years. Does that mean the recession is off now?