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Reports of 40 dead.

"The article is another sloppy piece of lefty whataboutary, Fat Ron. It simply falls flat with the most basic of stuff, like properly distinguishing between the Syrian opposition to Assad, which itself was fractious, and IS. Also there is a lack of proper context given the US was reduced to sending money and weapons rather than properly controlling the situation on the ground because any such initiatives were sabotaged both in Congress by the GOP and in Parliament by the nutjobs in the Tory party."

"The article is another sloppy piece of lefty whataboutary, Fat Ron. It simply falls flat with the most basic of stuff, like properly distinguishing between the Syrian opposition to Assad, which itself was fractious, and IS. Also there is a lack of proper context given the US was reduced to sending money and weapons rather than properly controlling the situation on the ground because any such initiatives were sabotaged both in Congress by the GOP and in Parliament by the nutjobs in the Tory party."

"The US can be relied upon with knowledge of ISIS, after all, they funded them in Syria so they ought to know https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq"

Absolutely amazing that as soon as there is a lit candle or a peaceful protest then Ivan security forces are there in a shot breaking it up and arresting everyone... and then a terrorist attack the response time is?? 90 mins I heard... well think zelensky called it right... maybe Putin should be more concerned at groups causing terrorist actions in his own country rather than his own soldiers causing terrorist actions in other peoples countries...

"The US also warned Iran about an ISIS attack in January https://www.iranintl.com/en/202401251037 Seems where there is a nutjob regime, people are likely to get shot at a mass event these days."

riosleftsock 1:10 Sun Mar 24 The ear thing is true. Have seen the footage. ISIS have now released body cam footage from the terrorists.

"Such a shame they weren’t rounded up before they killed all those innocent people in the concert hall. You know, as soon as they were identified as a terrorist group about to carry out a terrorist attack."

"Some Russian sources are saying that the terrorists were recruited in Turkey by Ukrainian secret services and paid 50% of their fee up front (total fee alleged to be about 5k USD). They are also saying that one of the terrorists was caught by Chechen security services in Russia, they cut off his ear and fed it to him. Not sure if any of this is true, just sharing some news from places you might not be access."

Don't forget the promise of 72 virgins as well

Doesn’t look like ISIS from the footage of those captured. That have said they were promised 500 thousand rubles to do it.

Probably conducted on behalf of Shamima Begum and paid for out of the fighting fund set up to allow her back into the UK as if nothing had happened.

"Dunno who that was aimed at, but I agree with you, almost no chance this was anything to do with Ukraine. ISIS do have form for falsely claiming responsibility for attacks they've had nothing to do with though, and probably shouldn't take anything them or their supporters say at face value."

No gain l mean

I see the sick in the head conspiracy theorists loons are backing the Putin bullshit ISIS claimed responsibility almost straight away and the way the attack accorded really does appear to be Islamic terrorism No way would the Ukraine be involved as has gain for them

"Mike don't disagree about traffic cameras etc. Just I was surprised with the fact they are at war, have high numbers of police and military and yet managed to capture people relatively close to the country they are at war with. You would have expected prevention, failing that reaction as event happening, failing that not letting terrorists leave Moscow area. It just seems a bit mad that if a true story they seemed unchallenged just before, during and after for so long. It just doesn't totally add up. IMHO of course."

"riosleftsock 4:14 Sat Mar 23 ISIS-K have claimed responsibility (allegedly) but this means nothing. Don't their lot usually pack suicide vests? And often extremely averse to being captured alive, rather than making a dash for a border where they get caught? And as for the photo they've published with their faces blurred.... Fuck knows, likely everything we ""know"" now will flip to the opposite within the next few days, and the truth probably doesn't matter to whatever happens next anyway."

"ForeverHammers 4:20 Sat Mar 23 It's not inconceivable that all the major roads in and around Moscow have traffic management cameras - quite possibly military grade ones that can read a number plate 300 meters distant. Same would be likely along all the major highways. All that's then needed is to get a match on cars that left that area of Moscow up to an hour after the incident and have the system flag each and every one as more and more cameras read the same number plate in the respective regions. Cross-checking with ownership information further focusses the search, so from a purely technical point of view, the timescales given are possible, but it's also hard to imagine that the perpetrators were also unaware of this possibility. As for the passports, the least I'd have expected would be fake passports being carried and if passage into the Ukraine was the aim, then their real passports to be hidden at a secure place close to the planned crossing site."

Anything that might give you more legitimacy in your fight is worth a few dead. See Israel.

"how they managed to kill all those people, leave the venue and then travel what must be hundreds of miles to Bryansk region in what appears a small family car. I would say if true (unlikely) it actually makes Russia look remarkably vulnerable. What were Putin's enormous amount of police and military doing, to prevent happening in first place, or react/stop them when in progress, or prevent them leaving vicinity after."

"""12:23 GMT RT’s editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan has posted a video clip of the interrogation of one of the suspected terrorists behind the shooting spree at the Crocus City concert hall. Earlier on Saturday, Russia’s Federal Security service (FSB) confirmed that eleven suspects, including four of the alleged perpetrators of the attack, had been detained in Bryansk Region, not far from the Ukrainian border. When asked what he did at the Crocus City venue on Friday evening, he replied: “I shot down... people.” The suspect added that he had committed the crime “for money,” detailing that he had been promised 500,000 rubles ($5,418). The man in the video also claims that the alleged curators had instructed him as to where the attack should take place. He had allegedly been ordered to “kill people there… doesn’t matter who.”"

"""“All four terrorists” were detained in Russia’s Bryansk Region within several hours as they tried to escape by car towards the Russian-Ukrainian border, the FSB said. The suspects intended to cross into Ukraine and had relevant contacts on the Ukrainian side, it added."""

I guess all those so quickly detained after this special terrorist operation tick enough boxes for Putin.

I guess all those so quickly detained after this special terrorist operation tick enough boxes for Putin.

That short speech seemed a little odd itself. He normally rants on. Perhaps been told to not spend to long in one location. He basically continued a line that has been prominent this morning from Russia that Ukraine involved.

And Putin now about to address Russia.