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"Absolutely nothing. Say it again, yeah."

100 Wrong decisions !!!!!

100 Wrong decisions !!!!!

"VAR is absolutely marvellous. It highlights, like nothing else, how absolutely rubbish PL referees are. They are so bad that, even if it's all down to unconscious bias, it looks like blatant corruption. If VAR's ever binned, it will be to protect the useless officials."

That VAR fuck up for Juventus cost me £95. Not loads I know but it might have paid for a couple of seconds of electric which would have been a bonus.

"VAR has ruined our beautiful game It's nothing more than a charter for cheats. After the ludicrous VAR intervention in our game against Chelsea, the worst of many, many, VAR decisions to date, there seems little point in playing All the excitement of scoring has been taken away as the corrupt officials search for ages for every possible reason to disallow a goal from anyone outside the Sky 6 sides 'Cheats' isn't too strong a word, and they know it! Not only is the technology flawed but worse still is incompetence/ corruption of the officials Goal line decisions and offside decisions could very easily be automatically resolved simply by having sensors fitted in the ball and in the players shirts It would even be possible for a light to come on when a player is offside or if the ball crosses the goal line If there's a foul in the build up to the goal then surely it's up to the referee to spot it. That's his job! Possibly, if he's in doubt (in his own mind, not influenced by any 3rd parties looking at a TV monitor miles away from the game) then he could choose to check on a pitchside monitor, but only has 30 seconds to make up his mind on his decision"

"Crap en’it Is there any chance we can bin VAR? I’ve lost interest after the Chelsea nonsense, what’s the point. It wasn’t easy but I could accept refs mistakes in the moment. I can’t accept these mistakes after an waiting an eternity and it kills any joy of the moment. It’s no fun."

"Not just the PL that sees VAR clangers!! Pretty fucked up VAR mistake in Serie A, Juve drew against Salernitana 2-2 at home, it was a very entertaining game too. Juve was down 0-2 at half-time, only to fight back in the second half with Bonucci score an injury-time equaliser at 93rd min. Then on 96th min Milik thought he had scored a dramatic late winner for Juve, he took off his shirt to celebrate and received a second yellow, this also sparked a brawl on the pitch with Fazio and Cudrado also receiving red cards. But then when the play finally resumed, VAR ruled the goal out because Bonucci was deemed to be in an off-side position, even though he didn't touch the ball he was viewed as interfering with play. However, he actually wasn't off because a Salernitana player was coming back onto the pitch from the end that wasn't captured well by the VAR camera, apparently nobody in the VAR room spotted this when they were making the decision. This was crazy because the linesman had a perfect view of this situation, which is why he never raised his flag. However in the chaos that followed the goal celebration, nobody knew what was going on and apparently the VAR only informed the on-field referee and did not communicate with the linesman. The linesman thought the goal was ruled out for other reason and not off-side so the goal was allowed to be ruled out. I think at least in this situation, the new automated off-side technology would've been very useful...................."

Lee Trundle 1:06 Thu Sep 8 That was even working on the basis that even 50% of the refs weren't biased. That's how many decisions went against us.

"""If we had had VAR in the 2015-2016 season we would have made the CL"" Why? Were the refs competent or unbiased back then? Of course they weren't."

If we had had VAR in the 2015-2016 season we would have made the CL. As I've said the technology is good but if a ref is incompetent or biased what can you do?

"The WHOLE point about VAR is that it does generate more ""talking points"", which, in turn, translates to more website ""hits"" or additional viewers - we'll be back right after this word from our sponsors - and hence more advertising revenue. The game can go fuck itself so long as the money keeps rolling in."

"That could very easily change to a more TMO based model and make it better instantly. Yes. Or a challenged based model, one per team, per half. Which would hopefully be used only for absolute rickets. The ref would have to change his decision after looking at the monitors. No input from Stockley Park. Of course Chelsea last weekend, if they had a review left would have used it (nothing to lose that late in the game). Would the ref have overturned that decision based on a player appeal, rather than the input of a remote referee, he may feel pressured by?"

"It hardly matters what Antonio thinks, does it. Not a chance they are binning it, but hopefully they will change some things. Wasn't there meant to be a meet on Tuesday?"

"110% agree with Antonio, bin VAR https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0cyxfdm"

"I guess it probably depends from team to team, game to game. I do think some teams do it less/don't do it much, but some I think are coached to by their managers- spurs, arsenal and a few others. I just wish they'd put a rule in place saying if you do it, it's a yellow card or a week's wages. That'll stop it sharpish. But then you've got the fucking managers doing it on the sideline week in week out as well, harassing the fourth official. There's nothing gentlemanly in the game any more. But they do it because when the likes of Ferguson did it, it influenced officiating. Set a terrible low behaviour benchmark. But yes with Neville some react because it's him rather than what he's said. He doesn't half come out with some shit sometimes, but he does make some good points from time to time. And also a big yes, VAR is talked about far too much. If it was better run we wouldn't be. But I reckon as other posters have said, it's all publicity and generates column inches and as long as none of the big teams get hurt by it, then by all means carry on...."

"El - But it doesn't happen less, no doubt. Not saying I agree with Neville, just saying what he said and some are getting all hysterical about it, which is a little sad, at the end of the day this isn't even important ffs, considering half the UK will be freezing to death this winter. Anyway, I hope all this blows over soon as talking about VAR instead of the football is a real fucking shame. It's ALL fucking shit these days. I'm out."

"Totally disagree with Neville. Only thing I'd say is VAR officials are also getting slaughtered (and rightly so) for making poor, subjective decisions even with video evidence. As for players surrounding the referee- just look at the behaviour of the spurs players last week. Like a fucking swarm of flies around shit. That cսnt Hojbjerg (or Peresic, can't remember) even went over when the ref was looking at the video replays."

"LT - I think it's happening less now to be fair, as it stands to reason the players know it's going to var anyway. If you remember before they use to go potty and scream at the ref to go and speak to the lino, you no longer see this."

"In football, it's good for nothing because the standard of referees is shit. If the standard was like Rugby it would be better. Wire the refs up to the microphone so us fans can hear what they are talking about."

Why would Chairman Nev moan.? Both he's paymasters are winning off the back of VAR NOTHING TO SEE HERE.!.

"Manuel 3:27 Mon Sep 5 ""that refs are now no longer getting slaughtered after a game for making crucial mistakes, or no longer being surrounded by players on the pitch."" What a load of bollocks (from Neville, not you Manuel). Both of those are still happening as much as they were before VAR."

One of the big issues with VAR is this. If you have an inexperienced Referee in the middle and a more experienced Referee in the box at Stockley Park if that Official tells the new guy he has got something wrong then the new guy will probably believe him. Does he have the balls to over rule his more experienced counter part? One Referee has over ruled the VAR official in the last couple of weeks ad that happens to be Michael Oliver who is an experienced Referee.

One of the big issues with VAR is this. If you have an inexperienced Referee in the middle and a more experienced Referee in the box at Stockley Park if that Official tells the new guy he has got something wrong then the new guy will probably believe him. Does he have the balls to over rule his more experienced counter part? One Referee has over ruled the VAR official in the last couple of weeks ad that happens to be Michael Oliver who is an experienced Referee.

"Heard Neville earlier, he is very much pro VAR still, couple of points I recall he mentioned was that there were too many errors before that changed the result of a game and you cannot go back to that, also said that refs are now no longer getting slaughtered after a game for making crucial mistakes, or no longer being surrounded by players on the pitch."

"VAR was meant to stop moaning about certain shit decisions which it has done, as every cսnt just moans about VAR instead now!! They keep showing the disallowed arsenal goal, but not sure why they‚Äôre moaning about that one, clearly nowhere near the ball and only gets the leg. Any of us who knows anything about football thought var was a shit idea and have been proved right. Game managed over 100 years without it. Modern football is shit."