Sullivan out!
Posted: 18 Jan 2025, 16:47
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Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 13:54
I know we've become apathetic & divided but there's still groups of like minded fans around the bowl who can make a difference by starting the Sullivan out chant.
Maybe though it needs a more catchy and rousing song than just Sullivan out to then get more joining in.
Pretty sure if controlling shares became available we'd have interested buyers.
We've had trouble attracting investors but we don't want or need new investors we need new owners.
Obviously Tripp Smith & Kretinsky have no interest in control otherwise they'd have bought Gold's shares if they are available?
Maybe though it needs a more catchy and rousing song than just Sullivan out to then get more joining in.
Pretty sure if controlling shares became available we'd have interested buyers.
We've had trouble attracting investors but we don't want or need new investors we need new owners.
Obviously Tripp Smith & Kretinsky have no interest in control otherwise they'd have bought Gold's shares if they are available?
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 12:54
RootsRadical wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 12:09 It's not rocket science.
If a significant amount of fans chant Sullivan out at every game, the media will pick it up and the spotlight & pressure will increase to a point when he will have to consider selling
That's how it was done in the old days & it's still the best way.
Can't understand why this hasn't already happened?
we've become apathetic since we left the Boleyn, apart from a small pockets of fans, the tight knit community has gradually dispersed (me, it's Parky's)... we've been fed promises ever since leaving 'home'. The football has been utter garbage for the most (unrecognizable & alien, apart from a couple of rays of hope, quickly doused), people have become disheartened & uninterested, that said...
'If you build it they will come'... there's a mood of disobedience across the country and the order is being challenged by ordinary people. We're angry so the time could be right to tap into that discontent (that is exactly what we are, The Discontented), you might be surprised at the reaction amongst fans.
West Ham v Spurs - Sept. 13th could be ideal for a demo, thinking of distractions elseware in London (surprised they haven't moved the game to Sunday)
'If you build it they will come'... there's a mood of disobedience across the country and the order is being challenged by ordinary people. We're angry so the time could be right to tap into that discontent (that is exactly what we are, The Discontented), you might be surprised at the reaction amongst fans.
West Ham v Spurs - Sept. 13th could be ideal for a demo, thinking of distractions elseware in London (surprised they haven't moved the game to Sunday)
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 12:40
RootsRadical wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 12:09 It's not rocket science.
If a significant amount of fans chant Sullivan out at every game, the media will pick it up and the spotlight & pressure will increase to a point when he will have to consider selling
That's how it was done in the old days & it's still the best way.
Can't understand why this hasn't already happened?
He would have to consider selling to who though? Not like there are bidders banging down his door is there? Gold's daughter's shares have been available for some time now without a sniff. Assuming that a new owner would want to take complete ownership of the club then, even if we were able to get Sullivan to sell for less than the market share value, that also means getting Kretinsky, Gold, Tripp and the rest to do likewise.
If anything, public protests are likely to put off any prospective buyer because they won't want similar to happen to them if things don't go well at any point.
I've said this before, literally the only good that can come from any kind of fan protest is the removal of Sullivan from his position of CEO, not wish fulfilment that there's some sugar daddy round the corner just waiting for the chance to buy him out and lavish billions of quid on us. That means focusing on his utter and complete incompetence at the role, not silly allegations about him trousering the money or moralistic bollocks about his porno past. Same goes for Brady who, apart from getting one over on the taxpayers many years ago, seems to have done a shockingly shit job in her role, particularly at bringing in more commercial revenue to the club.
The fact that Sullivan no longer has a controlling interest in the club means that this is actually a possibility, and only requires Kretinsky and Vanessa Gold to force Sullivan to step down. Perhaps protests should be aimed in their direction because they're the ones who can actively change things.
If anything, public protests are likely to put off any prospective buyer because they won't want similar to happen to them if things don't go well at any point.
I've said this before, literally the only good that can come from any kind of fan protest is the removal of Sullivan from his position of CEO, not wish fulfilment that there's some sugar daddy round the corner just waiting for the chance to buy him out and lavish billions of quid on us. That means focusing on his utter and complete incompetence at the role, not silly allegations about him trousering the money or moralistic bollocks about his porno past. Same goes for Brady who, apart from getting one over on the taxpayers many years ago, seems to have done a shockingly shit job in her role, particularly at bringing in more commercial revenue to the club.
The fact that Sullivan no longer has a controlling interest in the club means that this is actually a possibility, and only requires Kretinsky and Vanessa Gold to force Sullivan to step down. Perhaps protests should be aimed in their direction because they're the ones who can actively change things.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 12:33
Roots ( assume u are a fan of the band Rancid btw 
), the matchday fanbase has been sanitised by Sullivan and Brady to get rid of the older, traditional fan and replace with tourists ( spend more ), and scatter the old guard fans all over the bowl. Hence no more unrest and pitch invasions etc. It was always their plan to change the culture and identity of the club. Started with that West Ham London thing that makes us cringe.
), the matchday fanbase has been sanitised by Sullivan and Brady to get rid of the older, traditional fan and replace with tourists ( spend more ), and scatter the old guard fans all over the bowl. Hence no more unrest and pitch invasions etc. It was always their plan to change the culture and identity of the club. Started with that West Ham London thing that makes us cringe.Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 12:28
As Fukrug would say: "Wir sind in der Scheiße, oder?"
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 12:09
It's not rocket science.
If a significant amount of fans chant Sullivan out at every game, the media will pick it up and the spotlight & pressure will increase to a point when he will have to consider selling
That's how it was done in the old days & it's still the best way.
Can't understand why this hasn't already happened?
If a significant amount of fans chant Sullivan out at every game, the media will pick it up and the spotlight & pressure will increase to a point when he will have to consider selling
That's how it was done in the old days & it's still the best way.
Can't understand why this hasn't already happened?
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 11:59
simons wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 09:19 Petitions mean nothing unfortunately, just like one against the government.
It’s people power like Epping (whether you agree with that or not is another thing) that gets things changed. The fans need to find their voices more than ever this season, if we are to have any hope of getting this no good cսnt out of our club.
If anything it's something for the media to get hold of to point out the dissatisfaction of the supporters.
On its own, I agree that it probably doesn't do much but is merely another small detail which helps to build the case against our useless out of date ownership.
On its own, I agree that it probably doesn't do much but is merely another small detail which helps to build the case against our useless out of date ownership.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 09:47
Get fucked!
In a Country that's rapidly losing it's identity, queueing and strongly worded petitions are still what this nation does best.
In a Country that's rapidly losing it's identity, queueing and strongly worded petitions are still what this nation does best.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 09:19
Petitions mean nothing unfortunately, just like one against the government.
It’s people power like Epping (whether you agree with that or not is another thing) that gets things changed. The fans need to find their voices more than ever this season, if we are to have any hope of getting this no good cսnt out of our club.
It’s people power like Epping (whether you agree with that or not is another thing) that gets things changed. The fans need to find their voices more than ever this season, if we are to have any hope of getting this no good cսnt out of our club.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 22 Aug 2025, 06:25
I notice the petition is motoring along nicely now. 7,234 and counting.. 
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 20 Aug 2025, 18:16
Looking at the team on Saturday was a microcosm of why Sullivan and co are a fucking disease.
"We back our managers" reiterated by Brady on Sunday.
Backing managers is fundamentally wrong. The average "manager lasts about 2 years in the Premier league. Therefore, it leads to constant rebuilds, waste and expenditure. Worse it leads to an aging, miss matched squad, unfit for purpose. These outcomes were subsequently lamented by Brady and Sullivan as "we are on the floor".
What a big surprise and no acknowledgement whatsoever of who is responsible for being on the floor.
There should be a vision, ethos, strategy and tactical recruitment, led by a director of football aimed at constant improvement. We should have a head coach working within a forward looking, agile, structure.
Some examples of what backing managers has achieved on Sullivan's watch:
Backing Moyes: James Ward-Prowse. A dead ball specialist and a dead loss in open play. Over paid for him, over paying him, a useless crab who has scored 0 goals from free kicks for us and rarely beats the first man with his free kicks. Makes little impact.
Backing Lopetegui: Kilman, overpaid for and over paying him, a weak defender. Rodriguez totally unsuited to the premier league and totally overpaid. Both make little impact.
Backing Potter. Diouff and Hermansen. These positions were way down the list of urgency to resolve and are "build from the back" old school appointments rather than dealing with the obvious team weaknesses. Both may come good but didn't look much like progress or the solution to last seasons poor performances. Gone is world class Kudus. On a plane out of here, Mexico Captain and cup winner, Edson Alvarez because Potter "can't manage him". Potters adherence to an outmoded methodology of play that was quickly sussed by a championship team.
On the bench, Sullivan specials, Callum Wilson and Kyle Walker-Peters.
No doubt Macaulay and Potter have their tin hats ready but the real problem is the garbage running the club at board level.
BS out, sign the petition for fuck sake.
"We back our managers" reiterated by Brady on Sunday.
Backing managers is fundamentally wrong. The average "manager lasts about 2 years in the Premier league. Therefore, it leads to constant rebuilds, waste and expenditure. Worse it leads to an aging, miss matched squad, unfit for purpose. These outcomes were subsequently lamented by Brady and Sullivan as "we are on the floor".
What a big surprise and no acknowledgement whatsoever of who is responsible for being on the floor.
There should be a vision, ethos, strategy and tactical recruitment, led by a director of football aimed at constant improvement. We should have a head coach working within a forward looking, agile, structure.
Some examples of what backing managers has achieved on Sullivan's watch:
Backing Moyes: James Ward-Prowse. A dead ball specialist and a dead loss in open play. Over paid for him, over paying him, a useless crab who has scored 0 goals from free kicks for us and rarely beats the first man with his free kicks. Makes little impact.
Backing Lopetegui: Kilman, overpaid for and over paying him, a weak defender. Rodriguez totally unsuited to the premier league and totally overpaid. Both make little impact.
Backing Potter. Diouff and Hermansen. These positions were way down the list of urgency to resolve and are "build from the back" old school appointments rather than dealing with the obvious team weaknesses. Both may come good but didn't look much like progress or the solution to last seasons poor performances. Gone is world class Kudus. On a plane out of here, Mexico Captain and cup winner, Edson Alvarez because Potter "can't manage him". Potters adherence to an outmoded methodology of play that was quickly sussed by a championship team.
On the bench, Sullivan specials, Callum Wilson and Kyle Walker-Peters.
No doubt Macaulay and Potter have their tin hats ready but the real problem is the garbage running the club at board level.
BS out, sign the petition for fuck sake.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 19 Aug 2025, 19:22
Texas Iron" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 18:46 p s…
relegation would seriously de value their ownership of the club…
Fools…
Indeed it would. However. When we drop. (And this is what we are being primed for.) Sullivan will walk away still in the money. Admittedly. Not as much as he would have wanted. But he now finds himself where it's going to cost him. His own money to keeps us going foward. And that was never the plan. This season is going to be rough. But we have come back before.
COYI.
COYI.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 19 Aug 2025, 18:46
p s…
relegation would seriously de value their ownership of the club…
Fools…
relegation would seriously de value their ownership of the club…
Fools…
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 19 Aug 2025, 18:43
Why are we in this sorry state on and off the pitch…???
Sheer incompetence…
…run by a Porno Barrow Boy and a jumped up Politician
Oh for competent professional results oriented Ownership and Management…
Sheer incompetence…
…run by a Porno Barrow Boy and a jumped up Politician
Oh for competent professional results oriented Ownership and Management…
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 19 Aug 2025, 15:04
eusebiovic wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 15:03El Scorchio" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 12:01Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 11:59 I wonder how it would look for Sullivan if we got relegated from the Premier League, relegated from the WSL and relegated out of the Premier League 2 (development league) this season?Fine.
He can throw three managers under the bus rather than just one. He can shout three times as hard about how everyone else is letting him down.baked alaska with a brain injury was mayor of London
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 19 Aug 2025, 15:03
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 12:01Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 11:59 I wonder how it would look for Sullivan if we got relegated from the Premier League, relegated from the WSL and relegated out of the Premier League 2 (development league) this season?Fine.
He can throw three managers under the bus rather than just one. He can shout three times as hard about how everyone else is letting him down.
GSB only got the Olympic Stadium because that baked alaska with a brain injury was mayor of London at that particular time. Anybody else and it wouldn't have happened.
With a nudge and a wink Boris would've probably told them they were going to get it for free sooner rather than later because the London taxpayer couldn't subsidise it. The fact they were well publicised Thatcherite zealots like their nemesis Barry Hearn at Orient certainly helped smooth the path. It was no great surprise that both were in the running to get the OS in the aftermath along with Levy who wisely used it as a bargaining chip to get planning permission for his very shiny new toilet bowl. It's alright if you have a Tory running your club as long as it's one who knows what they are actually fucking doing. As per usual, the spuds fans just don't know they have been born yet.
Of course, it should always have been designed to be easily converted to football after the Olympics with a smaller sustainable athletics stadium built in the Queen Elizabeth Park afterwards. However that shiny bellend Seb Coe stubbornly insisted that Athletes could sustain the white elephant and continue providing a future legacy when no Olympic Stadium in living history has ever managed to achieve that aim.
The fact that Blairite cheerleader - the late Tessa Jowell backed him and Ken Livingstone who didn't like sport anyway went along with it because he really couldn't be arsed to split hairs after recently being re-admitted to the Labour Party just made things even worse.
If anything, it is an asset that could be very profitable if an operator who knows how to make the most of it was allowed to run it giving a generous return to the taxpayer. Which is probably why Sadiq Khan (another flake) has wisely been advised to hold onto it despite everybody thinking it would be the property of Sullivan by now. Maybe he is waiting for the next Tory mayor to take office but reading the room I can't see that happening in London anytime soon.
A confederation of dunces from start to fucking finish and it ain't panning out too pretty eh?
With a nudge and a wink Boris would've probably told them they were going to get it for free sooner rather than later because the London taxpayer couldn't subsidise it. The fact they were well publicised Thatcherite zealots like their nemesis Barry Hearn at Orient certainly helped smooth the path. It was no great surprise that both were in the running to get the OS in the aftermath along with Levy who wisely used it as a bargaining chip to get planning permission for his very shiny new toilet bowl. It's alright if you have a Tory running your club as long as it's one who knows what they are actually fucking doing. As per usual, the spuds fans just don't know they have been born yet.
Of course, it should always have been designed to be easily converted to football after the Olympics with a smaller sustainable athletics stadium built in the Queen Elizabeth Park afterwards. However that shiny bellend Seb Coe stubbornly insisted that Athletes could sustain the white elephant and continue providing a future legacy when no Olympic Stadium in living history has ever managed to achieve that aim.
The fact that Blairite cheerleader - the late Tessa Jowell backed him and Ken Livingstone who didn't like sport anyway went along with it because he really couldn't be arsed to split hairs after recently being re-admitted to the Labour Party just made things even worse.
If anything, it is an asset that could be very profitable if an operator who knows how to make the most of it was allowed to run it giving a generous return to the taxpayer. Which is probably why Sadiq Khan (another flake) has wisely been advised to hold onto it despite everybody thinking it would be the property of Sullivan by now. Maybe he is waiting for the next Tory mayor to take office but reading the room I can't see that happening in London anytime soon.
A confederation of dunces from start to fucking finish and it ain't panning out too pretty eh?
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 19 Aug 2025, 12:01
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025, 11:59 I wonder how it would look for Sullivan if we got relegated from the Premier League, relegated from the WSL and relegated out of the Premier League 2 (development league) this season?
Fine.
He can throw three managers under the bus rather than just one. He can shout three times as hard about how everyone else is letting him down.
He can throw three managers under the bus rather than just one. He can shout three times as hard about how everyone else is letting him down.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 19 Aug 2025, 11:59
I wonder how it would look for Sullivan if we got relegated from the Premier League, relegated from the WSL and relegated out of the Premier League 2 (development league) this season?
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 18 Aug 2025, 17:39
The £200 million Kretinsky pumped in. Was. In all likelihood help to make the Post Office go through easier. He make that. And more when he sells it on. As for Tripp. Most likely in for the land grab. Same as Sullivan. Or knows someone who will take it off of Sullivans hands when we drop.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 18 Aug 2025, 17:14
If they have the power to do anything about it. I really don't know if they do, without the Golds' joining forces with them. But you'd think they'd have collectively acted by now to stop Sullivan destroying their investment because only together can they usurp him.
Our ownership structure is in just as much disarray and shit as the state of the squad and football side of the operation.
Only reasons there can be for them not collectively stepping in are:
They just don't care or are complicit with what's happening, or just as clueless
There's some legal framework or something dodgy preventing it
They just want Sullivan to hoist himself by his own petard, knowing he's skint and desperate and just inflicting more and more damage on himself, and then fuck him off, hence why the money has dried up and it's just a waiting game.
I hope it's the last of those three because the other two are just beyond worrying. The last isn't ideal because it means lots of pain for the club but if it purges us of the cancer infecting everything from top to bottom and allows us to start again then so be it.
Our ownership structure is in just as much disarray and shit as the state of the squad and football side of the operation.
Only reasons there can be for them not collectively stepping in are:
They just don't care or are complicit with what's happening, or just as clueless
There's some legal framework or something dodgy preventing it
They just want Sullivan to hoist himself by his own petard, knowing he's skint and desperate and just inflicting more and more damage on himself, and then fuck him off, hence why the money has dried up and it's just a waiting game.
I hope it's the last of those three because the other two are just beyond worrying. The last isn't ideal because it means lots of pain for the club but if it purges us of the cancer infecting everything from top to bottom and allows us to start again then so be it.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 18 Aug 2025, 16:27
Its possible Shorty but Kretinski and Tripp’s share values will plummet. Not sure they will allow that?
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 18 Aug 2025, 16:07
Hate to say it but ownership is prepping us for relegation. They realise now. They ain't getting the OS. And nobody coming in to buy the club outright. Not while you can't buy your way to become a better team. (Newcastle anyone.) And the price is way too high. They can't shift the Gold shares. And anyone they can get a price on. They are pimping around. Potter will be gone by June. And if we do manage to stay up. The players who kept us up. Will be hawked around.
This was about getting the land and OS cheaply as possible for ownership. Never about running a football club. And now they ain't getting either. We are major burden for them. And even if we drop. After fifteen years and relegation. Ownership would have still made money on us. This is the beginning of the end for the current owners. The next few seasons will be rough.
This was about getting the land and OS cheaply as possible for ownership. Never about running a football club. And now they ain't getting either. We are major burden for them. And even if we drop. After fifteen years and relegation. Ownership would have still made money on us. This is the beginning of the end for the current owners. The next few seasons will be rough.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 18 Aug 2025, 15:12
Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: ↑18 Aug 2025, 15:02 Can't really agree with that Massive. If anything they've been prone to give some managers too long.
Zola wasn't their own man anyway.
Grant relegated us.
Allardyce was given loads of time.
Bilic was sacked too early for me but still lasted longer than the average PL appointment.
Moyes was only on temp contract first time and given loads of time next go round.
Pellegrini had us in a relegation battle by Xmas (mainly because of Roberto).
Lopetegui's the only one who really wasn't given much of a chance.
Yep, no denying or a surprise they gave their old pals Allardyce and Moyes the longest - due to the fact they were seen as relegation/promotion specialists which is what ultimately drives them to get in and remain in the Prem - but all the others weren't given a proper chance and backed the way they keep promoting about themselves doing. It's just not true and has in part caused a lot of the instability at the Club by lurching from 1 new manager to the next.
But of course they had to long Grant off for what he did, I just see little justification for rushing to other sackings as quickly as they did under the circumstances. Bilic will always do my nut in as he deserved more time considering the excellent 1st season under him before having to be the one to take on the poison chalice nightmare Stadium move that not even Guardiola could have coped with. Gets midtable anyway 1st season in the Hellhole before it was even redesigned under his recommendations, then a poor start after October then they sack him!
They don't back all their managers as they love to claim.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 18 Aug 2025, 15:02
Can't really agree with that Massive. If anything they've been prone to give some managers too long.
Zola wasn't their own man anyway.
Grant relegated us.
Allardyce was given loads of time.
Bilic was sacked too early for me but still lasted longer than the average PL appointment.
Moyes was only on temp contract first time and given loads of time next go round.
Pellegrini had us in a relegation battle by Xmas (mainly because of Roberto).
Lopetegui's the only one who really wasn't given much of a chance.
Zola wasn't their own man anyway.
Grant relegated us.
Allardyce was given loads of time.
Bilic was sacked too early for me but still lasted longer than the average PL appointment.
Moyes was only on temp contract first time and given loads of time next go round.
Pellegrini had us in a relegation battle by Xmas (mainly because of Roberto).
Lopetegui's the only one who really wasn't given much of a chance.
Re: Sullivan out!
Posted: 18 Aug 2025, 13:43
Thinking back over their entire reign of terror at our Club, one of the biggest lies these wankers made was always backing managers and giving them loads of time to succeed. It's simply not true, is it..
Zola - 6 Months
Grant - 1 Year
Allardyce - 4 Years
Bilic - 2 years 3 Months
Moyes - 6 Months
Pellegrini - 18 Months
Moyes - 4 Years
Lopetegui - 6 Months
Potter - 6 Months and counting
It's a total myth they always back their managers and give them plenty of time to turn shit around ever since Zola got the spanish archer, other than those considered to be an old pals act like Moyes, Allardyce and now seemingly Potter. And Lady Muck parroted it again yesterday to a national audience lying through her teeth.
Zola - 6 Months
Grant - 1 Year
Allardyce - 4 Years
Bilic - 2 years 3 Months
Moyes - 6 Months
Pellegrini - 18 Months
Moyes - 4 Years
Lopetegui - 6 Months
Potter - 6 Months and counting
It's a total myth they always back their managers and give them plenty of time to turn shit around ever since Zola got the spanish archer, other than those considered to be an old pals act like Moyes, Allardyce and now seemingly Potter. And Lady Muck parroted it again yesterday to a national audience lying through her teeth.