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Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Sep 2025, 11:00
by northbankfrank
2,500 posts by the end of the season?

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 17:16
by Chedylan 3
Is this porro pillock still here?

fuck him off already 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 12:25
by eusebiovic
I don't get the whole Irving thing... Don't forget before last season he was playing in the lofty heights of the AUSTRIAN second division. If he was a teenager then maybe you could understand it but as has been mentioned he's in his mid 20"s with not much regular first team experience behind him.

He would probably be fine at Scottish Prem level but I think even the Championship would prove too hectic for him.

 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 12:16
by Sir Alf
Yeah Irvine is a bizarre one. The Brentford game ok he had to see what he could do by starting his first competitive match in the PL.  But firstly starting him alongside Souck as our defensive double pivot in a PL that is now faster and more intense tgan ever was suicidal and was proved within 15 mins of the fame starting at Leeds. 

Lots of people clutching at straws to rationalise it. What was in Nuno and his coaches minds aside from crack, fentyonol or crystal meth? 

Is it that by focusing so hard on set piece defending that was causing us to concede so many, he thought play as many tall players as possible? If so why not Magassa? 

Was it, as Carlton Cole suggested, he was trying to protect the younger players? 

Was the Soucek and Irvine pairing working so well im training routines and drills, if so what were these routines? Couldnt have involved pressing or running ? 

It will be added to one of many unsolved mysteries for future generations to ponder
 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 12:01
by Massive Attack
Russ of the BML" wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 11:38  

How many times do the fans have to say "We need energy and legs in midfield". We bought Fernandes, Magassa and have Potts. Yet Nuno has dropped them for, guess what, older players. Play two of them with Paqueta - Or, play all three and drop Paqueta. 



 
 
 
Thing is Andy Irving aint even old he's just shit at this level - he was 25 in May. To start him twice ahead of the other 3 who have all looked better than him by some distance gives off sabotage vibes. It made fuck all sense. Or are we all going to seriously believe he suddenly turned in to Andy Irvinho in a handful of Training sessions megging every cսnt in sight before tapping the ball in to Areolas net with his left arse cheek. I mean, stranger things have happened in Football but.. 😅

The same manager who also instantly launched an honest likeable Pro that's never caused any trouble in his career out the Squad the second he walked through the door. Anyone thought how that must look to his fellow Team mates and making a questionable 1st impression to everyone trying to endear himself to everyone..

What you playing at, Nuno? 🤔

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 11:58
by Sir Alf
We all agree Russ. What perhaps should be understood though is that even though starting Potts , Magassa, Fernandes most games will guarantee improvement in central midfield, the appalling squad as a whole still may prevent the results we need being achieved against many teams.  That said, there will be a much better chance even if its getting a draw not a win.

The lack of a target man / striker and losing our best CB ( low bar ) will still limit what we fan achieve results wise and Nuno needs to come up with something a lot better than false 9 Paqueta.  On the subject of Paqueta, play him deeper or bench him from starting. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 11:38
by Russ of the BML
Nuno should do all he can to not be part of the problem. Last couple of games his unusual line up's, odd tactics and questionable substitutions have seen him rightly criticised. But with the bigger picture playing out, Nuno needs to keep his head below the trench, stay clear and let the fans v board issue play out. 

How many times do the fans have to say "We need energy and legs in midfield". We bought Fernandes, Magassa and have Potts. Yet Nuno has dropped them for, guess what, older players. Play two of them with Paqueta - Or, play all three and drop Paqueta. 

And Paqueta being played as a striker with Wilson on the bench. Irving as a 10. Persisting with CB's that can't defend. 

FFS Nuno - Just pick a team that consists of a blend of energy and experience and play them all in their right positions. Stop the rot and get some results. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 11:18
by Pav BML
It's a good point Massive makes about the coaching team. It feels like he doesn't see himself here long term that he's not brought his own guys in? Hopefully he has a clause that allows us to get rid for next to nothing if he has us 19th/20th come 1st of January. Some very questionable decisions so far and I can only hope he's finished with these ridiculous starting line ups. Part of me thinks no one can sort this team out but we've got no bloody chance if he thinks the team that started Friday can compete against anyone in this league 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 10:44
by Massive Attack
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 10:35
Massive Attack" wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 19:07 Further to Nuno agreeing to managing West Ham. It's worth remembering that it took a good week or so to agree too whilst Potter laid out all the cones, just like dead man walking Lopetegui when negotiating Potters contract persistently hovering in the background. What was most important to them was getting the contract length and value right above anything else. To me that says a lot. Sure they'll want to get a good contract it just comes across as being by far the most important. They aint in a hurry to take over, they're happy it's protracted even at the expense of the Football Club they could be managing as long as that lucrative contract is delivered.

Now when I think of other prospective managers who are willing to manage us regardless of contract length and value like Bilic it's because he deeply cares about this Football Club and just the kind of character you want fighting our corner within the Club. He was more than happy to agree to a short term 6 month deal if that's what it meant to manage us.

I think there's something in that and I appreciate they'll be others who will just say I'm overthinking it which is fair enough but it's what I feel about the situation. Something's off and doesn't sit right and I know who I'd want in the trenches giving their all for this Club. One to keep an eye on maybe..

Does Nuno really want to be here? Because if he does, he's got to start showing it.
 
The hold up wasn't between us and Oh NO. The hold up was his Forest contract, we has still on salary and told Forest he wouldn't take another job unless they weighed out 80% of his remaining contract, settled on 60% apparently.

Does he want to be here? Given his team selections and the way he held Forest up, probably not.

Sure but it still required the new contract to be right and 3 years was pushed when the Club wanted to offer him less to begin with and it dragged on until Sullivan eventually caved in out of desperation. That's how I understood it anyway. All I'm asking from Nuno is to show us all he really wants to be here. Because right now it looks like he couldn't give much of a fuck. 


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... me8n7y28go


Sources close to the situation have told BBC Sport steps towards the 51-year-old's appointment started before the game against Palace.

Primarily on an exploratory basis, the Hammers were keen to determine whether he would be willing to return to work so soon after losing his job at the City Ground.

The initial response was encouraging - he intimated he was open to it.

According to sources close to Bilic, he was already planning his coaching team.

Intriguingly, it is understood Bilic would have been willing to take the job on a deal that ran until the end of the season - making him an attractive proposition to Sullivan, who is believed to have preferred a short-term appointment.

The focus at the start of this week centred on Nuno. Sources indicated Sullivan, at least at that point, maintained his preference to make an appointment until the summer while offering a 'huge bonus' should the new man keep them in the Premier League.

Indeed, despite the obvious ease of appointing Bilic, talks with Nuno have been ongoing since the start of the week.

BBC Sport sources indicated on Wednesday that Sullivan was minded to meet Nuno's requests, and it is understood agreement on a three-year deal was finally reached on Friday evening.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 10:35
by THUNDERCLINT
Massive Attack" wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 19:07 Further to Nuno agreeing to managing West Ham. It's worth remembering that it took a good week or so to agree too whilst Potter laid out all the cones, just like dead man walking Lopetegui when negotiating Potters contract persistently hovering in the background. What was most important to them was getting the contract length and value right above anything else. To me that says a lot. Sure they'll want to get a good contract it just comes across as being by far the most important. They aint in a hurry to take over, they're happy it's protracted even at the expense of the Football Club they could be managing as long as that lucrative contract is delivered.

Now when I think of other prospective managers who are willing to manage us regardless of contract length and value like Bilic it's because he deeply cares about this Football Club and just the kind of character you want fighting our corner within the Club. He was more than happy to agree to a short term 6 month deal if that's what it meant to manage us.

I think there's something in that and I appreciate they'll be others who will just say I'm overthinking it which is fair enough but it's what I feel about the situation. Something's off and doesn't sit right and I know who I'd want in the trenches giving their all for this Club. One to keep an eye on maybe..

Does Nuno really want to be here? Because if he does, he's got to start showing it.
 
 
The hold up wasn't between us and Oh NO. The hold up was his Forest contract, we has still on salary and told Forest he wouldn't take another job unless they weighed out 80% of his remaining contract, settled on 60% apparently.

Does he want to be here? Given his team selections and the way he held Forest up, probably not.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 10:22
by Massive Attack
Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 09:58
Massive Attack" wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 19:07 Further to Nuno agreeing to managing West Ham. It's worth remembering that it took a good week or so to agree too whilst Potter laid out all the cones, just like dead man walking Lopetegui when negotiating Potters contract persistently hovering in the background. What was most important to them was getting the contract length and value right above anything else. To me that says a lot. Sure they'll want to get a good contract it just comes across as being by far the most important. They aint in a hurry to take over, they're happy it's protracted even at the expense of the Football Club they could be managing as long as that lucrative contract is delivered.

Now when I think of other prospective managers who are willing to manage us regardless of contract length and value like Bilic it's because he deeply cares about this Football Club and just the kind of character you want fighting our corner within the Club. He was more than happy to agree to a short term 6 month deal if that's what it meant to manage us.

I think there's something in that and I appreciate they'll be others who will just say I'm overthinking it which is fair enough but it's what I feel about the situation. Something's off and doesn't sit right and I know who I'd want in the trenches giving their all for this Club. One to keep an eye on maybe..

Does Nuno really want to be here? Because if he does, he's got to start showing it.
I don't think you can blame any manager for wanting to make sure his contract is as good as possible, especially as we know Sullivan always low balls any kind of offer he makes and probably expects negotiations to take a while.

As for Nuno vs Bilic, one got a shit club into Europe and in the top 4 for most of last season

I would have preferred Bilic on a short term deal myself but that's more because I don't like Nuno's style of football and never wanted him here.
 
 

The contract thing taking awhile to accept the job doesn't fill me with confidence that his intentions are in the right place. Looking further back at Nuno's time at Forest he even managed to renegotiate another new 3 year contract this Summer so money is right at the forefront of his mind a lot. That's fine on a personal level, it's just it also says something about what really motivates him. I genuinely get the impression he wouldn't give a fuck if the Club launched him out the door just as long as that contract is very good, even at the expense of sullying his CV.

The Boleyn season was equally as good if not arguably better than what Nuno achieved with Forest last season whilst under intense pressure for it to be memorable. Agreed on the last bit. 

Is his heart really in it being here? I'm just not convinced..

Protracted negotiations for a lucrative 3 year contract (even at the expense of none of his Staff?) - ⏰️
 
Launched Ward-Prowse out the Squad altogether 1st thing he done - ⏰️⏰️
 
Agrees to coaching alongside our U21s he'd never met before - ⏰️⏰️⏰️
 
Wacky tactics - ⏰️⏰️⏰️⏰️
 
Ego and money looks to be the biggest drivers behind Nuno above anything else regarding the Club. This from a manager who had recently been badly scarred by his humiliating sacking at Forest 2 weeks previous with a public falling out with another controversial meddling Chairman. So a match made in heaven then going to work soon after for a notorious shitcunt like Sullivan.

The next 3 games he's got to show me he really wants to be here. Because up till now it's looking highly suspect with decisions he's making and conditions he's agreeing to.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 10:18
by Rossal
For me the next two games are huge.  He has to get the team selection correct and he has to get a tune out of them. 

If we lose to Newcastle and Burnley get rid. 

Let Potts and Robson work with a younger squad and give it a go.  Soucek, Irving, Rodriguez, JWP are deadwood and should be banished away from the first team squad at the moment. Kilman and Todibo aren't far off it. 

We don't have time to sit and wait for Nuno to do his job properly. Either shape up and start performing or fuck off. Inverted full backs alone should be a sackable offence if he tries that again. 

On what planet is playing Scarles RB a good idea when he hardly kicked a ball since Anfield last season. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 09:58
by Jean-Luc Paul Goddard
Massive Attack" wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 19:07 Further to Nuno agreeing to managing West Ham. It's worth remembering that it took a good week or so to agree too whilst Potter laid out all the cones, just like dead man walking Lopetegui when negotiating Potters contract persistently hovering in the background. What was most important to them was getting the contract length and value right above anything else. To me that says a lot. Sure they'll want to get a good contract it just comes across as being by far the most important. They aint in a hurry to take over, they're happy it's protracted even at the expense of the Football Club they could be managing as long as that lucrative contract is delivered.

Now when I think of other prospective managers who are willing to manage us regardless of contract length and value like Bilic it's because he deeply cares about this Football Club and just the kind of character you want fighting our corner within the Club. He was more than happy to agree to a short term 6 month deal if that's what it meant to manage us.

I think there's something in that and I appreciate they'll be others who will just say I'm overthinking it which is fair enough but it's what I feel about the situation. Something's off and doesn't sit right and I know who I'd want in the trenches giving their all for this Club. One to keep an eye on maybe..

Does Nuno really want to be here? Because if he does, he's got to start showing it.
I don't think you can blame any manager for wanting to make sure his contract is as good as possible, especially as we know Sullivan always low balls any kind of offer he makes and probably expects negotiations to take a while.

As for Nuno vs Bilic, one got a shit club into Europe and in the top 4 for most of last season, the other has become a journeyman manager in lower leagues who would take any Premier League job offered to him. Completely apples and oranges as to what they should be expecting from a contract offer.

I would have preferred Bilic on a short term deal myself but that's more because I don't like Nuno's style of football and never wanted him here.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 09:56
by Massive Attack
Lato wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 09:51 I would love to know what Kretinsky makes of all this? Not a dickey bird from him! I have heard of sleeping partners......but this cnut is in a fecking coma!

The 'Sphinx' is likely waiting for Sullivan to leave him a begging answer phone message about finally selling his shares to him.. ☎️ 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 09:51
by Lato
I would love to know what Kretinsky makes of all this? Not a dickey bird from him! I have heard of sleeping partners......but this cnut is in a fecking coma!

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Oct 2025, 09:37
by threesixty
My feeling now with Nuno is that he thinks he’s got more time to work things out than we think he actually has. 
I think he wants to play about with positions and then work out what he needs for the Jan window. 
A lot of the formations he’s tried sound like someone who’s playing with theory and not reality. He doesn’t think the team he had out there in his 1st two games is the answer to survive or progress this team. Thats why he’s immediately deviated soon as he got a chance too. 

I don’t know when he will wake up and realise the way this league is going, this particular season, these points you are dropping that are completely avoidable could cost us our premier league status. 

I sort of get the idea of doing the hard work and risk of working things out now rather than after Xmas makes some sense. But this is incredibly risky. 
 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 19:07
by Massive Attack
Further to Nuno agreeing to managing West Ham. It's worth remembering that it took a good week or so to agree too whilst Potter laid out all the cones, just like dead man walking Lopetegui when negotiating Potters contract persistently hovering in the background. What was most important to them was getting the contract length and value right above anything else. To me that says a lot. Sure they'll want to get a good contract it just comes across as being by far the most important. They aint in a hurry to take over, they're happy it's protracted even at the expense of the Football Club they could be managing as long as that lucrative contract is delivered.

Now when I think of other prospective managers who are willing to manage us regardless of contract length and value like Bilic it's because he deeply cares about this Football Club and just the kind of character you want fighting our corner within the Club. He was more than happy to agree to a short term 6 month deal if that's what it meant to manage us.

I think there's something in that and I appreciate they'll be others who will just say I'm overthinking it which is fair enough but it's what I feel about the situation. Something's off and doesn't sit right and I know who I'd want in the trenches giving their all for this Club. One to keep an eye on maybe..

Does Nuno really want to be here? Because if he does, he's got to start showing it.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 18:30
by BoleynGone
Maverick
As Carrick pointed out on MOTD.
The top 4 of Summerville,Wilson,Paqueta,Bowenon paper is as good as any in the bottom half .We shouldn't be struggling so much with those 4. He looked totally perplexed as to why we are where we are despite having Sullivan as Chairman.Let's be straight here Sullivan and Brady are the main cause of the problems.
But when every fan bar none can see is dumb founded by the line up last monday,tactics and subs. It could clearly be seen that it wasn't working. But Nuno went to a back 5 and subbed on Rodriguez.Zero minutes for Magassa or Potts. We weren't any better. (I'm adding this as I still can't believe what Nuno did ).
He then repeats the line up apart from Fernandes and KWP. Same "inverted full back" and midfield with no striker. After an even worse performance he waits to the 65 minute to make a unforced change. Those 20 minutes were crucial,as soon as Fernandes and Potts were on the pitch the temp rose,we looked much better. Nuno then used his last substitutes to go defensive when still losing. Marshall for Summerville would have been more attacking playing Marshall alongside Wilson and Bowen it would have given us needed energy.
I'm not sure if Robson is having much say in matters. it does look like he's waffling on on the touchline.never rated him,it was Potts and the other u21 coaches who got them to 2nd in the league when he went to help Moyes in what was a disaster tbh.
God knows what will happen against a dynamic Newcastle,it could be uglier than Sullivan naked.
 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 15:37
by Massive Attack
nychammer wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 13:32 I honestly think the Sullivan family take it in turns to pick the team and Nuno is handed the team sheet. No sane manager picks those line ups let alone do it twice.
Got to stop making these excuses for Nuno. This is on him, these are his selections. The Sullivans or Brady are not picking these Teams.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 14:09
by Swiss.
Based in the last 2 team selections I can only imagine he’s already had enough and wants to be sacked. 

Fat Sam on speed dial? 

 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 13:36
by GBHammer63
Nail on head, cunts got no shame as proven with his recent choices. HowS&B aren’t park bench dossers is staggering.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 13:32
by nychammer
I honestly think the Sullivan family take it in turns to pick the team and Nuno is handed the team sheet. No sane manager picks those line ups let alone do it twice.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 13:26
by Massive Attack
twoleftfeet wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 13:24 I can’t believe he would have accepted the job on the basis of having to accept Sullivans picks of assistants. 
I could if he agreed to signing a lucrative 3 year contract...📝💸

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 13:24
by twoleftfeet
I can’t believe he would have accepted the job on the basis of having to accept Sullivans picks of assistants. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 13:18
by Massive Attack
If Nuno's old Staff aint installed by the next game and we lose then big questions will need to be asked of him and the Club why that isn't the case now they are all out of work twiddling their thumbs. If a manager really wants to be here, he'd demand they arrive especially when they are available now. It makes no sense to continue with the current yes men duds. Unless he aint fussed about the sack.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 26 Oct 2025, 12:30
by Sir Alf
A manager alone is not the problem but you’ve got to think if he picked the midfield we started with at Everton plus Potts and gave Wilson minutes in the last 2 games we might have got something?  

Our last 4 managers, owner and various recruitment and coaching appointments have all prioritised experience, past reputations over speed and athleticism both for team selection and recruitment?  Can someone try to rationalise it by playing devils advocate or something as I cant find any reason, even minor for why ?    I heard Carlton Cole saying it might be to protect Potts, Magassa but that sounds like a wild, desperate defence since Scarles was thrown in and out of position.  

Is it that the senior ( older / slow  ) players like Soucek, Irvine, JWP and Guido showed a better understanding in the gentle training sessions of what Nuno required and previously Potter and Loppy?  

I mean these geezers get paid millions to know better but when every fan is saying start the younger lads with more pace, agility etc then you have to conclude they are all incompetent, fraudsters?  I wonder in Nuno’s case, like Moyes telyimg heavily on Alan Irvine, if his coaches are actually the tactical brains?  

“Sullivan Effect” struck yet again if so because he supposedly insisted on promoting within to avoid the cost of taking on Nuno’s coaching team?  I mean its pennies compared to relegation but the epitomy of why Sullivan and Brady are not fit to be involved in amy aspect of running the club. 

“no more BS”