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General Election - July 2024

Posted: 22 May 2024, 19:50
by twoleftfeet
This appears to be the rumour on Sky. An easy win for Starmer and some big names losing their seats. The Country needs a change but is it going to get one? The thought of seeing that annoying Beth Rigby for 6 weeks though is a horrifying thought.

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 12:27
by Lee Trundle
"Can you guess which area in the UK dished out the most benefits? It'll be the one Debs lives in, unsurprisingly."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 12:26
by Darlo Debs
Side if they are all fucking shit then why do.you constantly argue the case for parties on the right? Stew 100% with you on the likes of Amazon. There are dividing lines between the two main parties. Not enough I agree.

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 12:26
by Darlo Debs
Side if they are all fucking shit then why do.you constantly argue the case for parties on the right? Stew 100% with you on the likes of Amazon. There are dividing lines between the two main parties. Not enough I agree.

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 12:07
by Council Scum
"Most benefit doesn't even have to be ""fraud"" now. Mum's (and Dad's) are obsessed with getting their children diagnosed with autism/adhd/Asperger's etc. A women who trains at the gym has 4 children, all are diagnosed, she gets £4,400 a month in credit for them all. They all manage to train at the gym also. It's access to free money but a country obsessed with mental health."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 12:05
by stewie griffin
"""My main.priroty in this election is kicking out thus terrible government"" by voting in a party that has pretty much exactly the same policy on everything? that seems to be the path most morons are taking. As Scum said, and i said it yesterday, party politics is a broad irrelevance. UK Population is 68 million UK workers 33 million Economically inactive (i.e. in the working age bracket but neither working nor looking for work) 9.2 million Unemployed (at least theoretically looking for work) 1.5 million Leaving... 24 million dependents So, you have 33 million people, paying for 68 million people. Plus they're also paying for the massive black hole left by Globalist cunts such as Amazon who pay ZERO UK tax. I reckon even bolty could figure out the maths there. It isn't good, and its also not right, reasonable or fair on those of us who do bother to work. Find me a party who will address all of that, and I'll vote for them. Two mainstream centrist parties who believe in all of this globalist bollocks aren't going to address any of it."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 12:03
by goose
"Chill out Zeb, my phone decided to go with Remain instead of Reform. Debs how much is spent pursuing tax fraud vs benefit fraud?"

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 12:02
by Side of Ham
So you know everything about the manifestos of parties you don’t like but nothing on the parties you do like? Odd seeing as you are so into your side of a political debate. You are (as we know) heavily into your politics Debs so heavily you cannot see straight as your hatred of one side of politics makes you blind to the fact they are ALL FUCKING SHIT.

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 12:02
by Council Scum
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52660591

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:59
by Darlo Debs
"Council I don't know if those figures are correct but if they are then they aren't much use without context. Is there a breakdown anywhere of those figures. How many for example are full.time carers, for elderly or disabled family members? How many are disabled or to.ill.to work.themselves? How many of the millions on hospital waiting lists are people that might otherwise be able to work? There will always be those wanting to milk the system but it's very telling that we spend much more trying to catch benefit thieves than we do on tax evaders. Who.do. you think is costing the coun try more money?"

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:52
by Darlo Debs
"Side you didn't answer my question, Labour will have their policing plans in their manifesto.i haven't yet read them. However I am.not tying my colours to.a mast. If in this constituency the libdems had a better chance of winning I'd vote for them. My main.priroty in this election is kicking out thus terrible government.."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:51
by Council Scum
"There are over 9 million people of working age in this country that don't work. Not unemployed, simply don't work. Until a party actually address that, that simply not working isn't a lifestyle, this country will always be high taxed and skint."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:41
by Side of Ham
What is LABOURS solution on Policing?…..

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:37
by Darlo Debs
"Oh dear you are comical.in how obvious you try to.twist people's words...you aren't even clever enough.to make it subtle. Now let's be clear for those that seem.to be confused on how politics works and think.Reform don't need to follow the rules. How are Reform.going to pay to fix the criminal.justice system if they want to cut tax? We have a 73,000 case backlog. How are they going to pay to.bring that down. No good hiring more police if they are going to have to get told not to arrest people as there is nowhere to.put the prisoners we have. ..and yet Reform want to imprison even more people."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:33
by Side of Ham
"Debs, it’s simple even for you when someone posts up part of the manifesto of a party you don’t like, post up with confidence (as you are convinced by them) Labours manifesto for the same thing and let everyone judge for themselves. If Labour are so good and going to win the next election they need to have counter ideas for all these types of issue and your average pissed off UK constituent isn’t liking any of the parties and are not going to vote such is their disgust on the options. Your Party Needs You!"

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:32
by zebthecat
"goose 11:25 Fri May 24 ""Remain"" What the fuck are you on about? That flew the coop in 2019."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:31
by Darlo Debs
Its not relevant....it's not how crime is dealt with. We don't focus on one group.over another orvshoukdn't be doing. Just out of interest when that senior figure of the EDL was done for having child porn on his computer where was the uproar on here among those who clearly support the idea that the problem of child sexual exploitation is a Muslim.one? I can't quite recall.

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:25
by goose
"So Debs, you’re rightly upset because the current government aren’t locking up criminals. Remain want to lock up criminals but you’re not happy about that either?"

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:25
by mashed in maryland
"Goose https://www.reformparty.uk/justice-policy ""Stop Child Grooming Gangs. Systematic child sexual abuse continues unchecked. Child Protection Services needs a dedicated National Agency working with local charities, councils and health services. Upgraded intelligence can identify high-risk children and filter malicious claims."" They've worded it very diplomatically. Unsure how anyone could interpret this as racist or giving white paedos free reign. Over to debs...."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:22
by mashed in maryland
"""Of course it'd be a problem.if they only focused on one type which us the actual.minority of cases. It would send out all the wrong signals including to the perpetrators of child sex exploitation that weren't Muslim."" Important question before we continue... Do you understand per capita?"

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:21
by Darlo Debs
Nice try Side. I asked how Reform.proposed to fix it. As a party wanting to take themselves they need to lay out how they will fix it and pay for it. I think it's a bloody scandal.thatbthe current government seem to have given up on putting criminals away because they have screwed up so badly.

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:16
by Side of Ham
Has Debs just stated we should give up on policing because there’s nowhere to put the scum element of society? Is that Labours manifesto on it? Or just the average labour supporters view? This is why BOTH main parties and their cult followers need to be ignored they’ve been brainwashed into a power game of reds vs blues forgetting this is about the running of a country.

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:12
by Darlo Debs
..I also asked how they'll.pay to fix the criminal.justice system when they want to cut tax. 3bn wouldn't touch the sides.

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:04
by goose
"Righto, so your argument is ‘they can promise anything’. You asked for their policy on policing and now you have it. Very easy to level that argument at all parties."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 11:04
by goose
"Righto, so your argument is ‘they can promise anything’. You asked for their policy on policing and now you have it. Very easy to level that argument at all parties."

Re: General Election - July 2024

Posted: 24 May 2024, 10:51
by Darlo Debs
Goose they know they can promise the police numbers and putting people in.prison because they don't have to enforce it but how are they going to enforce putting so many people in prison for first offences when there aren't prison space and people are already let out early? As for woke policing.....maybe you are happy with them.locking up.people for having the cheek.to utilise their right to.deminstrate but if you are suggesting that we end up.in a police state where coppers go in hard on peaceful demonstrations that reform.disapporove of then you have just proved why they should never be in.power. Reform want us out of the ECHR and want to.crack.down on so called woke policing ( which i am.assumung includes Marches they are not in support of).....if you can't see a problem.with that then there is no helping you.