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Massive Attack" wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 00:16Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 00:12Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:58That's where I'm in agreement with you, I don't condone the pond life doing what they are doing like burning down leisure centres, just as I hated those targeting hotels last summer with people in them. It's the peaceful protests which I wished were being reported properly on that I wanted to see but they just weren't all that interested. Only now, over it like a rash when it's utter carnage.Which is why Carnage works!Oh it definitely works getting attention, just the wrong attention which then plays in to the two tier keir system at play. It's all bollocks.
Nutsin wrote: ↑12 Jun 2025, 00:12Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:58That's where I'm in agreement with you, I don't condone the pond life doing what they are doing like burning down leisure centres, just as I hated those targeting hotels last summer with people in them. It's the peaceful protests which I wished were being reported properly on that I wanted to see but they just weren't all that interested. Only now, over it like a rash when it's utter carnage.Which is why Carnage works!
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:58goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:46Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:41It's a bit like the October 7th Effect. Israelis were also minding their own by enjoying a carefree music event only for the most horrific crimes imaginable to then transpire, then the world wonders why they go absolutely apeshit.
I think it was Goose the other night who rightly coined the phrase Fuck around and find out. Well now the Irish are making themselves heard loud and clear that they ain't going to stand for it and it'll take extreme action if needs be.Thats great, but the completely innocent people who haven’t fucked around but happen to be from the same country - they should ‘find out’?That's where I'm in agreement with you, I don't condone the pond life doing what they are doing like burning down leisure centres, just as I hated those targeting hotels last summer with people in them. It's the peaceful protests which I wished were being reported properly on that I wanted to see but they just weren't all that interested. Only now, over it like a rash when it's utter carnage.
goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:46Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:41It's a bit like the October 7th Effect. Israelis were also minding their own by enjoying a carefree music event only for the most horrific crimes imaginable to then transpire, then the world wonders why they go absolutely apeshit.
I think it was Goose the other night who rightly coined the phrase Fuck around and find out. Well now the Irish are making themselves heard loud and clear that they ain't going to stand for it and it'll take extreme action if needs be.Thats great, but the completely innocent people who haven’t fucked around but happen to be from the same country - they should ‘find out’?
goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:46Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:41It's a bit like the October 7th Effect. Israelis were also minding their own by enjoying a carefree music event only for the most horrific crimes imaginable to then transpire, then the world wonders why they go absolutely apeshit.
I think it was Goose the other night who rightly coined the phrase Fuck around and find out. Well now the Irish are making themselves heard loud and clear that they ain't going to stand for it and it'll take extreme action if needs be.Thats great, but the completely innocent people who haven’t fucked around but happen to be from the same country - they should ‘find out’?
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:41It's a bit like the October 7th Effect. Israelis were also minding their own by enjoying a carefree music event only for the most horrific crimes imaginable to then transpire, then the world wonders why they go absolutely apeshit.
I think it was Goose the other night who rightly coined the phrase Fuck around and find out. Well now the Irish are making themselves heard loud and clear that they ain't going to stand for it and it'll take extreme action if needs be.
Nutsin wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:32Yeah, I think we are well past the point of allowing the inept authorities to deal with it or cover it up. It’s not helping.
Time to let all immigrants know you fuck with our kids you’re gonna find out.
I fully support the Irish people.
goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:25Nutsin wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:23goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:00 As soon as you start bricking yoga classes and trying to burn down peoples houses, your argument loses all legitimacy.
There’s a hugely important conversation to be had, but you take the focus away from that and it becomes about the rioting instead. The protests could be so powerful but crossing the line just takes that power away.What do you expect When you ignore the people and hang their children out to dry ffs!
Fuck your legitimacy!So if two Romanians commit a terrible crime, every other Romanian is fair game? You’re okay with trying to fire bomb their houses?
goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:24Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:17goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:00 As soon as you start bricking yoga classes and trying to burn down peoples houses, your argument loses all legitimacy.
There’s a hugely important conversation to be had, but you take the focus away from that and it becomes about the rioting instead. The protests could be so powerful but crossing the line just takes that power away.Partly agree. I don't agree that the argument loses legitimacy by those who protest peacefully and they should be seperated from the mindless stuff going on. And that's where I think the authorities let themselves down by intentionally making it all out to be racially motivated when it just isn't the case. I wouldn't then say the Old Bill etc lose all credibility for it but I do blame them for how they have purposely framed the situation.
For every action there is a reaction and those steps need to be retraced all the way back to the Politicians for failing to get a grip of this madness to begin with. Ever since Farage first brought the issue to everyone's attention when he was vilified for daring to highlight the problem as the MSM purposely ignored it thinking it wouldn't become such an issue and what was likely to come as the rest of the political class buried their heads up their own arses.To be fair, the police have arrested the two or three lads who did the crime?
A peaceful protest would have got the right headlines and put the spotlight on the issue. Now the issue is secondary. The disorder was always going to grab the headlines.
Nutsin wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:23goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:00 As soon as you start bricking yoga classes and trying to burn down peoples houses, your argument loses all legitimacy.
There’s a hugely important conversation to be had, but you take the focus away from that and it becomes about the rioting instead. The protests could be so powerful but crossing the line just takes that power away.What do you expect When you ignore the people and hang their children out to dry ffs!
Fuck your legitimacy!
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:17goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:00 As soon as you start bricking yoga classes and trying to burn down peoples houses, your argument loses all legitimacy.
There’s a hugely important conversation to be had, but you take the focus away from that and it becomes about the rioting instead. The protests could be so powerful but crossing the line just takes that power away.Partly agree. I don't agree that the argument loses legitimacy by those who protest peacefully and they should be seperated from the mindless stuff going on. And that's where I think the authorities let themselves down by intentionally making it all out to be racially motivated when it just isn't the case. I wouldn't then say the Old Bill etc lose all credibility for it but I do blame them for how they have purposely framed the situation.
For every action there is a reaction and those steps need to be retraced all the way back to the Politicians for failing to get a grip of this madness to begin with. Ever since Farage first brought the issue to everyone's attention when he was vilified for daring to highlight the problem as the MSM purposely ignored it thinking it wouldn't become such an issue and what was likely to come as the rest of the political class buried their heads up their own arses.
goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:00 As soon as you start bricking yoga classes and trying to burn down peoples houses, your argument loses all legitimacy.
There’s a hugely important conversation to be had, but you take the focus away from that and it becomes about the rioting instead. The protests could be so powerful but crossing the line just takes that power away.
goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 23:00 As soon as you start bricking yoga classes and trying to burn down peoples houses, your argument loses all legitimacy.
There’s a hugely important conversation to be had, but you take the focus away from that and it becomes about the rioting instead. The protests could be so powerful but crossing the line just takes that power away.
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 22:57 Newtownabbey as well as Coleraine, Ballymena, and Larne are all currently on fire with widespread protesting and disorder. It's last summer all over again but this time in Northern Ireland.
Nutsin wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 22:34Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 18:51 This is the mum of one of the raped girls speaking out and as to why the local community are in uproar, contrary to the smear campaign being played out by the establishment so to paint them all out as racist thugs..
Yes, there are some that will be racist amongst the masses and overstepping the mark, but by and large the reason why countless numbers are out protesting is because they are fearful and angry about the safety of their kids and it relates directly to the migrant crisis. It's so fucking dishonest and they know it to take advantage of the community to paint them all out to be racist thugs.
These liberal wankers honestly sicken me and how they can betray their people they should be protecting, yet failing miserably.You mean cunts like Goose.
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 18:51 This is the mum of one of the raped girls speaking out and as to why the local community are in uproar, contrary to the smear campaign being played out by the establishment so to paint them all out as racist thugs..
Yes, there are some that will be racist amongst the masses and overstepping the mark, but by and large the reason why countless numbers are out protesting is because they are fearful and angry about the safety of their kids and it relates directly to the migrant crisis. It's so fucking dishonest and they know it to take advantage of the community to paint them all out to be racist thugs.
These liberal wankers honestly sicken me and how they can betray their people they should be protecting, yet failing miserably.
violator wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 08:05Massive Attack" wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 06:37
The sicko Government's in Europe have blood on their hands with failing to protect our citizens with robust Borders because this brazen behaviour is becoming a far too common occurrence. And they then wonder why the general public are raging the way that they are.
just me or does that look a bit, erm, staged?
goose wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 07:04 Congrats for having a complete meltdown and spamming up this thread with largely irrelevant nonsense. You basically proved:
Terrible things happen in parts of the world which have different laws to us.
The US has a paedo problem in Dallas.
and then accused Starmer of not upholding people’s human rights.
which is ironic given your hero president:
is currently being sued for over reaching his powers.
Has been found guilty of a sex crime.
and is threatening to withdraw government contracts because someone criticised one of his policies.
we won’t mention the Epstein thing…,,,,