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Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 07 Oct 2023, 13:24
by claret on my shirt
"Or should i say they are attacking to get THEIR land back. Good luck to them. The World will watch and do nothing to help them as they always do, shame on us."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 21:23
by The Fonz
"Just out of interest Tex, where you getting your numbers from for the rally and which ones are we comparing it to?"
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 21:13
by Hammer and Pickle
Ha Fronzo! Just put those crimpers down!
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 21:09
by The Fonz
"Yet not triggered by other conflicts or atrocities like but not limited to: - Kicking out or killing Palestinians in their thousands (Kuwait, Jordan, Lebanon) - Jordan and Egypt not accepting them as refugees or giving them a state when they controlled Gaza and the West Bank - The treatment of Uyghurs by the Chinese - Pakistan kicking out 100,000s of Afghans (happened recently) - The war and casualty toll in Yemen and other wars - The genoicde happening in Sudan / Darfur - The land conflict in India/Pakistan - The Ukraine and Russia war Tells me everything I need to know about why these people are triggered. No Jews, no outrage. If these people did not want Jews to feel like they need a homeland then they have a funny way of showing it. Just have to look at the rise of anti-semitism across the globe. Long live Israel and hopefully there will be real peace soon."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 21:03
by Hammer and Pickle
Ha Ha Fronzo! Nice one Tex!
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 20:58
by Texas Iron
Wrong Fonzo... Triggered by Zionist Isrsel stealing land from Palestinians And still stealing more now... And Apartheid and gross cruelty against Palestinians
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 20:53
by Texas Iron
7.6 Jews in USA 3.5 Muslims in USA
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 20:39
by The Fonz
"There are about 14 million Jews around the world, representing 0.2% of the world population There are about 1.8 billion Muslims in the world which is approx. 24% of the world population Not difficult to work out Texas. Yet everyone is triggered by us having a slither of land that we call home and defending it and ourselves."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 20:38
by Texas Iron
You lot need to look up defitions of... Zionism Antisemitism ...and history of the region since 1800s..
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 20:26
by Texas Iron
Small pro Israel crowd in Washington compared to Pro Palestinian at weekend... Almost 6 times bigger... Not surprised...
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 20:14
by Darlo Debs
Zionism.is just wanting self determination Not all Jews are Zionistvand not all Zionists believe in the level Of nationalism.that the current Israeli go in for in fact many thousands don't. Which is why his words were so.wrong on all.levels.
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 19:52
by BRANDED
Not all Jews are Ziolists. By a long chalk. Call a left wing Jew a zionist and you’d be pretty insulting..
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 19:48
by Darlo Debs
* sorry that should have said stupid thing to defend.
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 19:03
by Darlo Debs
"As far back as the days of Militant there has been an.issue of anti semitism.of some on the left who.use Israel.as the focus of their issue with Jews but many have long upheld those same conspiracy theories that are contained in Hobb's book. A lot of it has shit all to do with Muslims. For those who.have HAMAS sympathies, they just had a safe home in a party run by Corbyn. This is a man after all who said some pretty disgusting things about Zionists. A very stupid thing to.do.given Chakrabati had already made it clear that the word was used interchangeably with the word Jew to hide antisemitic intent."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 19:03
by Darlo Debs
"As far back as the days of Militant there has been an.issue of anti semitism.of some on the left who.use Israel.as the focus of their issue with Jews but many have long upheld those same conspiracy theories that are contained in Hobb's book. A lot of it has shit all to do with Muslims. For those who.have HAMAS sympathies, they just had a safe home in a party run by Corbyn. This is a man after all who said some pretty disgusting things about Zionists. A very stupid thing to.do.given Chakrabati had already made it clear that the word was used interchangeably with the word Jew to hide antisemitic intent."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 18:42
by Willtell
"I don‚Äôt think I was wrong Debs. When Corbyn was collecting followers and voters as Labour leader, he made lots of friends among the Muslim population. Their ‚Äòenemy‚Äô became his enemy. Jews offered Corbyn nothing but grief for his friends and supporters amongst the Muslim community and it ended up showing as anti-s?©mitismes. Corbyn‚Äôs final undoing was his clear and obvious anti-semitism that's infected Labour for a long time. The Piers Morgan interview was classic and showed that Corbyn could not bring himself to criticise his friends at Hamas for their terrorist behaviour in launching a merciless assault on Israel even though they are officially classified as a terrorist regime."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 17:45
by rumford
"BRANDED 4:12 The level of democracy indices,report in the Middle Eastern and North African countries with the highest scores are Israel,Tunisia, Turkey,Lebanon,Morocco, JORDAN.and Kuwait"
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 17:38
by Darlo Debs
"Willtell I think.your analysis is wrong. The more likely and sensible ( yet still racist) explanation of Corbyns thinking is that he doesn't see Jews as being oppressed because he doesn't see them.as a group.generally suffering poverty obviously his view is bollocks and he is a massive hypocrite, who says and does obviously suspect things which can easily mark him.down as both a hypocrite and a racist, then he tries to back.out of them. I will give you an example. A fair while ago he write a foreword for a book by philosopher Hobbs which peddled age old anti semitic conspiracy theories. In his foreword he called the book a brilliant tome. He denounced the antisemitism.in tbe book.but stood by its brilliance when questioned. You.might reasonably suppose he didn't want the book.cancelled despite its racist content. Yet he wholly defended the tearing down of the Colston statue. If that isn't being massively hypocrite I don't know what is. Anyone claiming him.to be an anti racist or peace campaigner need to take a proper look at tbe man. He is neither of those things."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 17:13
by rumford
*6 day war.
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 17:02
by rumford
Branded that's quite funny mate
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 16:12
by BRANDED
Jordan might have massive tits but she's not a democracy and neither is Egypt. Just ask their people what they think.
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 15:55
by rumford
"Reading a newspaper journalist recently,cant recall his name, but he had a lot sympathy for the Palestinians however he thought that Hamas taking on the Israeli army was complete folly given the strength of their army. I agree, why poke the bear Look back to the 6 day war when the Israeli army defeated 3 Arab states Egypt,Jordan and Syria .The Irony is to of those states,Egypt and Jordan are the only 2 Arab states who recognise the state of Israel today. I see neither of those 2 states are interested in taking any refugees from Palestine.That's no surprise in the case of Jordan where after the 5 day war when I believe 100s of thousands of palestinians fled into the state resulting in PLO trying to overthrow King Hussain. There was survey prior to this current conflict that suggested that a least 30% + of Palestinians do not back Hamas but of course some of those are dying as well. Unfortunately. shit happens in all wars and innocent people die on both sides, just like people in Dresden and Hiroshima in the last World War."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 15:46
by BRANDED
"I just like seeing people losing their shit over a democratically elected member of parliament, particularly when it involves TERRORISTS. He's insignificant. People should not worry about him."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 15:31
by Lee Trundle
"BRANDED 3:06 Tue Nov 14 ""They are pretty insignificant now so why would anyone care what they think?"" This coming from a man who hangs off every word CORBS says. You couldn't make it up."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 15:22
by Kaiser Zoso
"They’re not that insignificant yet, Brando? Morgan must have known he could get Corbyn in exactly the spot he ended up in I am surprised McClusky is still a free man after building a £7 million hotel for Unite that ended up costing £100 million."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 14 Nov 2023, 15:06
by BRANDED
Corbs and Mcclusky have always been jokes to a certain demographic. Nothing has changed. Neither are in the same powerful positions they were in. They are pretty insignificant now so why would anyone care what they think?