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Posted: **18 Aug 2024, 01:31**

I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 22:08**

Still needs binning imo, all the Wolves win has done is kick that particular can a bit further down the road!

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 18:29**

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 10:35
RBshorty wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 10:33 The Hornchurch Massive on YT is saying Moyes is open for a return.!

I think Moyes till the end of the season would be palatable enough. Just to ensure that we maintain our PL status.

Then in the summer have another go at appointing someone new.

What a f&cking idiot.... what makes you think Moyes could do a job his last 6 months totalled 4 wins and a win stat of 22% yeah great idea.... regardless of the fact we'd be an absolute laughing stock, Id rather get Fat Sam back... that is how ridiculous that idea is!!!!

Ps cant wait for Nutstain to come out of his padded cell to read these comments!

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 15:32**

scott_d wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 15:08
Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:44
scott_d wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:38 Gobsmacked that people are suggesting a Moyes return and they're not joking.

Yeah, and some people are seriously suggesting that they'd take Postefuckincoglu.

I know who'd I'd rather.

It's not like we only get to choose from these 2 though, is it?

No, just one of them. For the rest of eternity it seems...

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 15:08**

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:44
scott_d wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:38 Gobsmacked that people are suggesting a Moyes return and they're not joking.

Yeah, and some people are seriously suggesting that they'd take Postefuckincoglu.

I know who'd I'd rather.

It's not like we only get to choose from these 2 though, is it?

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 15:03**

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 12:27 Seeing the names we've been linked to, I really hope we get a result tonight and somehow kick on.

Yep, I'd still like to see Lop do well, the fella really wants it to work and do respect him for that.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 15:02**

I gave up on Uncle Avram when he fucked us off for yom kippur.

We had 0 (ZERO) points at that stage of the season.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 15:01**

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 14:49
factory seconds" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 14:27 from what i've GLEAMED if there's a ex WHU likely to come in on a short term gig, it's not moyes.

Avram Grant said he's now observing yom kippur and most south east massage parlours this season instead, so he's unfortunately had to rule himself out.

Ag! I saw Avram in BKK one time, scruffy lookin cսnt.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 14:49**

factory seconds" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 14:27 from what i've GLEAMED if there's a ex WHU likely to come in on a short term gig, it's not moyes.

Avram Grant said he's now observing yom kippur and most south east massage parlours this season instead, so he's unfortunately had to rule himself out.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 14:27**

from what i've GLEAMED if there's a ex WHU likely to come in on a short term gig, it's not moyes.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 14:19**

I said I'd take him over the current manager and your hero Moyes, get it right spastic

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 14:18**

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 14:15
scott_d wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:38 Gobsmacked that people are suggesting a Moyes return and they're not joking.

there's plenty on here that have been doing it since the season started, I didn't call them cult members for nothing. also, it would be the ultimate insult from the midget and that cսnt brady.

You want Imposternoclue, so turn it in.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 14:17**

Yep. The re-introduction to what I fondly referred to as Ceefax Football. Only tune in at the end to discover the outcome of the result. We are the Rumbelows of world Football if that dinosaur returned for a cunting third time and that will be me switching the telly off the good this season...

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 14:17**

"You talk about unproven in the Premier League and look at other clubs...."

unproven = not a client of salthouse/silkman

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 14:15**

scott_d wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:38 Gobsmacked that people are suggesting a Moyes return and they're not joking.

there's plenty on here that have been doing it since the season started, I didn't call them cult members for nothing. also, it would be the ultimate insult from the midget and that cսnt brady.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 14:08**

scott_d wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:38 Gobsmacked that people are suggesting a Moyes return and they're not joking.

Totally mindblowing. The very reason the squad is in disarray, and that our ability to switch style of play is so lacking.

If Moyes came back I'd have to transition to watching us on whatever the current incarnation of Teletext is. Maybe one of those bookies match visualisation screens.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 13:48**

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:44
scott_d wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:38 Gobsmacked that people are suggesting a Moyes return and they're not joking.

Yeah, and some people are seriously suggesting that they'd take Postefuckincoglu.

I know who'd I'd rather.

I'd rather take a bullet to the head, ta.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 13:44**

scott_d wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 13:38 Gobsmacked that people are suggesting a Moyes return and they're not joking.

Yeah, and some people are seriously suggesting that they'd take Postefuckincoglu.

I know who'd I'd rather.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 13:38**

Gobsmacked that people are suggesting a Moyes return and they're not joking.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 13:05**

Russ, if they do the analysis on Carrick and look at the data ( players profiles he inherited, added, possession stats etc etc) it should help to mitigate the risk. My point is more that Sullivan does not appoint as far as we know ( or didnt in past years ) based on a dossier of research. More agent tecommendations or gut feel

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 12:47**

Sir Alf" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 11:09 Latest trend by all the speculating web sites and journos is Potter or Carrick.

I can see why they might think that based on Sullivan. He will now think he needs to go back to his default appointment profile an English coach or manager. Full circle. I suppose these 2 are more progressive than his Allardyce, Moyes “safe hands” types but no real guarantee of improvement. They cant do worse? Thats hopefully the case but I suspect Sullivan prefers Carrick as its a “populist” appointment aimed at getting fans off his back. But suspect no data analysis again to back it up. Carrick unproven in the Premiership and Potter only successful at a club that had a philisophy and recruitment policies that drive everything.

I would prefer to trust data and a manager or coach with success at multiple clubs with limited or finite resources. A coach who is tactically flexible, develops players, brings youth thru where possible. One that will fit the tactics and style tjat best fits the available squad. Yes we want entertainment etc. but you are better to develop that on the foundation of getting a few results first.

I hope Sullivan ensures some background checks and analysis is done but suspect he will trust his judgement again which is quite frankly appalling. I mean he appointed Loppy, famed for a tight defensive set up and tactics, to implement possession based, attacking football with 8 new players of which 5 were identified independently by Sullivan and Steidten. That said, Loppys alleged recruits ( Rodriguez, Kilman and Soler) were hardly suited to a fast paced, energetic, athletic attacking set up in the Premiership.

Probability based on Sullivans tenure over 14 years suggests the next appointment has a 10-20% chance of success. ?

You talk about unproven in the Premier League and look at other clubs....

Arne Slot
Thomas Frank
Fabian Hurzeler
Maresca
Amorim
Ireola
Di Zerbi
Potter

They did and seem to be doing ok.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 12:37**

there's a condition called aphantasia. if you said "think of an apple" to them, they would think of the concept of an apple but couldn't actually picture it as their brains are wired in such a way that their imagination is limited purely to abstract thoughts.

it's the only reason i can think of for people suggesting moyes.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 12:29**

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 10:35
RBshorty wrote: ↑09 Dec 2024, 10:33 The Hornchurch Massive on YT is saying Moyes is open for a return.!

I think Moyes till the end of the season would be palatable enough. Just to ensure that we maintain our PL status.

Then in the summer have another go at appointing someone new.

Speak for yourself. I would find Moyes about as palatable as a gypsy's shit.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 12:27**

Seeing the names we've been linked to, I really hope we get a result tonight and somehow kick on.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 12:19**

The old tune that days “Things can only get better” doesn’t usually apply to clubs like West Ham. You’ve got to have a proper DOF these days not a “half in, half out” Technical Director who is really like the old Head of Scouting. Look at Brighton or Bournemouth for the model. Owners are the key and they implement processes based on making profit on players but also using data and player profile analysis to fit an overall philosophy of how the team will play. The coach is also sourced to fit the philiosophy.

There is none of this owner involvement using preferred agents and the board disagreeing. They should all be onboard with the process and program.

hence no success likely at West Ham. Anything we achieve will be a bonus but not expected.

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 11:12**

A Moyes return for the third time would be the end for many. It would make the club an absolute laughing stock.

I certainly wouldn't renew my son's and I's season tickets next year if Moyes returned again like a turd you can't flush.

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