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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 23:04Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:15Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.
The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.
China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.You see Nutsack its this lack of any understanding of the markets reaction that leads me to think you have no understanding of the markets so you cant be a trader.
Btw the rest of the world will stop doing business with the US if Trump continues to piss his allies off!
Oh dear just read that bit about the "negotiations going on right now".....You believe that 75 countries are kissing the Trumpsters ass to get a deal!!!! You are more deluded than Trump!
Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:15goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:09Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:06If at the end of the day you think that the USA won’t come out of this with a huge win in a reduction in global Tarrifs from original levels levied against the USA and removal of trade barriers and a reduction in trade deficits then you have to be retarded. This whole move will end up being a big win for US companies coming in from around the world including China.
Trump is yet to announce Tarrifs on pharmaceuticals, most of which are provided by Ireland and China, there are 286 Chinese companies that are under threat of being delisted from IS exchanges. Sure they won’t like that. Yeah there will be short term pain that can be managed to a minimum, which is exactly what’s happening.
Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the US helps with supply chain issues too, further reducing inflation pressure. As wel as a matter of national security. So many ways the US will end up benefiting from it all that you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that this will end up being nothing but a big win for US jobs, economy and businesses. It will bring results and will create a much fairer system for global trade.
So why didn’t any of the financial markets agree with your take on this?
equities and bonds both gave the idea a resounding ‘no’.Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.
The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.
China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.
Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 20:31goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 20:27Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 20:01You come on here bloviating about Trump backtracking on his Tariffs with China, (the country that supports our common enemy Putin.) as if it’s some kind of victory. That’s how fucking mental you are.
You live under a Gov’t Born out of Fabianism which is morphing into Totalitarianism yet you can’t see what’s happening in front of your very eyes and you’ve got the nerve to criticize me ffs?
At least I know whose side I should be on ffs!
As Trump said China has been getting away with murder for years at the expense of the whole world. The only people upset are the Oligarchy bankers and hedge fund managers.
He also said you have to be flexible, which makes sense, so if Trump makes adjustments along the way to achieve free and fair global trading for all then so be it.
Nothing has been won or lost at this point you fuckwit.
All we can do is pounce on Any opportunities along the way, I suggest you get a clue. Because you-you look like a right cսnt with your stupid celebratory posts!Yeh I’m celebrating because the way he landed those tariffs and the thinking behind the size of them was ridiculous and has far reaching consequences.
I’m glad I was right. Let’s not pretend Trump’s backtracking was anything other than forced.
as for the U.K., it has zero relevance to my post. You’ve proven on numerous occasions that you have very little understanding of what’s happening in this country.Yeah, I guess all the protestors I see marching through the streets of the U K and Ireland waving their flags are all actors, right Goose?
You need to remember we have freedom of speech and freedom of press over here, we get to see what’s going on.
goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:29Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:28goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:21Prices aren’t set on emotions. People who get paid huge sums of money to understand the impacts of this decided they didn’t like it. Hence the sell off, hence the panic, hence Trump making an embarrassing climb down followed by some embarrassing concessions.
btw I love how you’re positioning the backtrack as part of the process.
Backtrack ffs! What a simpleton! You need to stop watching CNN ffs! It’s costing you money!Oh yeah I’m sure Trump absolutely planned to humiliate himself.
Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:28goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:21Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:15Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.
The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.
China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.Prices aren’t set on emotions. People who get paid huge sums of money to understand the impacts of this decided they didn’t like it. Hence the sell off, hence the panic, hence Trump making an embarrassing climb down followed by some embarrassing concessions.
btw I love how you’re positioning the backtrack as part of the process.
Backtrack ffs! What a simpleton! You need to stop watching CNN ffs! It’s costing you money!
goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:21Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:15Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.
The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.
China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.Prices aren’t set on emotions. People who get paid huge sums of money to understand the impacts of this decided they didn’t like it. Hence the sell off, hence the panic, hence Trump making an embarrassing climb down followed by some embarrassing concessions.
btw I love how you’re positioning the backtrack as part of the process.
Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:15goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:09Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:06If at the end of the day you think that the USA won’t come out of this with a huge win in a reduction in global Tarrifs from original levels levied against the USA and removal of trade barriers and a reduction in trade deficits then you have to be retarded. This whole move will end up being a big win for US companies coming in from around the world including China.
Trump is yet to announce Tarrifs on pharmaceuticals, most of which are provided by Ireland and China, there are 286 Chinese companies that are under threat of being delisted from IS exchanges. Sure they won’t like that. Yeah there will be short term pain that can be managed to a minimum, which is exactly what’s happening.
Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the US helps with supply chain issues too, further reducing inflation pressure. As wel as a matter of national security. So many ways the US will end up benefiting from it all that you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that this will end up being nothing but a big win for US jobs, economy and businesses. It will bring results and will create a much fairer system for global trade.
So why didn’t any of the financial markets agree with your take on this?
equities and bonds both gave the idea a resounding ‘no’.Markets are reacting to uncertainty and sentiment, due to all the scaremongering from political propagandists and globalists. You can include bankers and Hedge funds in the globalist category.
The markets aren’t always right by the way. Trump has given us the initial shock and awe, now you gotta respect the process and watch what happens. Negotiations are going on right now with plenty of countries willing to negotiate. Let’s see what happens when they fall in line. Remember the USA’s military protects most of the countries from China, who do you think they’re gonna side with ffs.
China is way down the pecking order and will start to feel the pain as time goes on. Meanwhile US will be opening up new markets with the rest of the world.
goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:09Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:06goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:51Won’t lose doesn’t equal ‘they’ve won’.
Theres a world where both lose, but you won’t like that world.
Like I told you, they don’t have to worry about public opinion or mid terms or the price of eggs. If they wanna drop interest rates they will. If they wanna force retailers not to pass through cost inflation, they will.If at the end of the day you think that the USA won’t come out of this with a huge win in a reduction in global Tarrifs from original levels levied against the USA and removal of trade barriers and a reduction in trade deficits then you have to be retarded. This whole move will end up being a big win for US companies coming in from around the world including China.
Trump is yet to announce Tarrifs on pharmaceuticals, most of which are provided by Ireland and China, there are 286 Chinese companies that are under threat of being delisted from IS exchanges. Sure they won’t like that. Yeah there will be short term pain that can be managed to a minimum, which is exactly what’s happening.
Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the US helps with supply chain issues too, further reducing inflation pressure. As wel as a matter of national security. So many ways the US will end up benefiting from it all that you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that this will end up being nothing but a big win for US jobs, economy and businesses. It will bring results and will create a much fairer system for global trade.
So why didn’t any of the financial markets agree with your take on this?
equities and bonds both gave the idea a resounding ‘no’.
Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 22:06goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:51Won’t lose doesn’t equal ‘they’ve won’.
Theres a world where both lose, but you won’t like that world.
Like I told you, they don’t have to worry about public opinion or mid terms or the price of eggs. If they wanna drop interest rates they will. If they wanna force retailers not to pass through cost inflation, they will.If at the end of the day you think that the USA won’t come out of this with a huge win in a reduction in global Tarrifs from original levels levied against the USA and removal of trade barriers and a reduction in trade deficits then you have to be retarded. This whole move will end up being a big win for US companies coming in from around the world including China.
Trump is yet to announce Tarrifs on pharmaceuticals, most of which are provided by Ireland and China, there are 286 Chinese companies that are under threat of being delisted from IS exchanges. Sure they won’t like that. Yeah there will be short term pain that can be managed to a minimum, which is exactly what’s happening.
Bringing jobs and manufacturing back to the US helps with supply chain issues too, further reducing inflation pressure. As wel as a matter of national security. So many ways the US will end up benefiting from it all that you have to be a special kind of stupid to think that this will end up being nothing but a big win for US jobs, economy and businesses. It will bring results and will create a much fairer system for global trade.
goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:51Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:43goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:43And again you’re too one-eyed to actually think about what I posted about China.
I told you why China won’t lose this trade war. It’s not a unique view, you can find the facts I posted anywhere on the internet. To you, because it’s not pro-Trump it must be cheering on China.
its not a game of football where you support one side whatever happens. It’s simple economics & reasoning.China hasn’t won anything you idiot!Won’t lose doesn’t equal ‘they’ve won’.
Theres a world where both lose, but you won’t like that world.
Like I told you, they don’t have to worry about public opinion or mid terms or the price of eggs. If they wanna drop interest rates they will. If they wanna force retailers not to pass through cost inflation, they will.
Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:43goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:43And again you’re too one-eyed to actually think about what I posted about China.
I told you why China won’t lose this trade war. It’s not a unique view, you can find the facts I posted anywhere on the internet. To you, because it’s not pro-Trump it must be cheering on China.
its not a game of football where you support one side whatever happens. It’s simple economics & reasoning.China hasn’t won anything you idiot!
goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:43And again you’re too one-eyed to actually think about what I posted about China.
I told you why China won’t lose this trade war. It’s not a unique view, you can find the facts I posted anywhere on the internet. To you, because it’s not pro-Trump it must be cheering on China.
its not a game of football where you support one side whatever happens. It’s simple economics & reasoning.
goose wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:29Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:23 As I explained I was joking when I asked if he was Irish, as he obviously wasn’t just like he isn’t welsh.I already told you that, are you knowingly lying again Goose?
Sharia Counsel! Just my phone auto correcting incorrectly due to my fat fingers.
You knew that though, just you being all goosey again.Course you were, just like you were joking about all the other falsehoods you posted.
Nutsin wrote: ↑14 Apr 2025, 21:23 As I explained I was joking when I asked if he was Irish, as he obviously wasn’t just like he isn’t welsh.I already told you that, are you knowingly lying again Goose?
Sharia Counsel! Just my phone auto correcting incorrectly due to my fat fingers.
You knew that though, just you being all goosey again.