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"Just finished The Killing liked it a lot but not really the last season as much. Breaking Bad, Homeland done Was going to do Luther or The Wire next - can you tell me which one is best of the two?"

"Yea I loved Sopranos but in the later seasons in particular it really did become a lot about family, I wouldn't go through it all again. The Wire was good, but again wouldn't watch it again, bit dated as said. Loved Prison break, some great characters in that."

"I was another latecomer to the Sopranos, only finished it last month. I would label it very good. Worth watchig but again, not up there with the greats for me."

"I think when you start watching The Sopranos you need to see it as just a family drama until the mafia shit really kicks in. Also like to add in Slow Horses, GoT & Snowfall."

"I will persevere with it Will also give The Sopranos a go, never seen it ! When it came out I was going through a bad divorce and TV was last thing on my mind, ever since just not got around to it"

"LeroysBoots I'm afraid I was the same with the Sopranos, which everyone who watches finds excellent. I'm not saying it was bad but after a couple of episodes I just couldn't get into it, and like you with The Wire I found it dated. I watched all of The Wire when it first came out and thought it was sliced bread!"

Probably my favourite series is the 70s TV version of Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy Now thats dated but in a great way

"Boots. I only caught up with the wire a ciuple of years ago and like you, the hype got me curious. Unlike you tho i found it superb, not up there with the 'greats' but definitely 9/10 imho."

I need someone to convince me why The Wire is so good I've tried several times to watch it based on the hype but I just cannot get past the first episode I just hated it ! Need subtitles and it's so dated

I need someone to convince me why The Wire is so good I've tried several times to watch it based on the hype but I just cannot get past the first episode I just hated it ! Need subtitles and it's so dated

"All those mentioned are top notch, I’d also add in Bosch and a few Scandi…..The Killing, The Bridge, Wallander (The Swedish vers) and Follow the Money."

"In terms of story plotting The Shield beats most other series hands down. You have loads of different story arcs going on at once, some short, some lasting the whole series, and with the long ones, rather than meandering along like most TV series, the pace actually speeds up season by season until the final conclusion. Series like The Wire and the Sopranos had great writing in terms of character and dialogue but most of the story arcs just end abruptly, in the Sopranos usually by a sudden death completely unrelated to the plot. The only things I don't like about The Shield are the shaky camera work and washed out visuals, although kind of makes sense as it's sunny LA. Also, it bugs me that one of the 4 guys in the strike team is in it all the way through but barely does anything."

The Shield *stares down Jim and Manuel*

"Jim - Yep, I'd pretty much agree with that, but I would also have Prison Break, thought it was immense. Banshee and Boardwalk also top notch."

Gomorrah Succession Band of Brothers The Wire Sopranos Breaking Bad Narcos Hard to choose between the first 5 but I'd say that is a pretty comprehensive list of the pinnacle of television. Each one absolutely top notch. Narcos and Breaking Bad are the smallest of margins below the other 5 in my opinion. TV just doesn't get better than the first 5 on the list.

"Agree 1billy, except as always we’d all have a slightly differing top 3 and I’d swap Succession for Spiral….. Leroy’s, it was all round perfect tv…..from start to finish…."

"Gomorrah. Narcos. Sucsession. Pretty sure we have reached peak tv with those three, cant see them being bettered."

"Gomorrah. Narcos. Sucsession. Pretty sure we have reached peak tv with those three, cant see them being bettered."

"I have mate, thanks Just watched the finale of Gomorroh Fuck me, absolutely the most perfect ending Utterly brilliant TV"

"It is fucking good, I hope you've watched 'The Immortal' as well Leroys."

"Fuck me, Gomorrah Never before have I invested so much time as I have in the characters in this show I have the finale to watch tonight, so I won't be coming back in here until I have watched it as I know you wankers will spoil it !!! For me the greatest TV I have seen in a very very long time Good to know that the whole of Naples are off their tits on coke !!!"

Peckham do you like Gomorrah as you can relate to it as being a bit of villain yourself?

So there's plenty of Italian to get the gist then....wasn't digging you out by the way just interested in how different it was if it was true.

"The author has been under Police protection since publishing the book , Roberto Saviano. Since 2006 he has been under protection. He has just directed his first feature film about life under protection and its an animation film."

You are right they have their own dialect but still helps me with Italian in general and learning.

"Peckham, do they speak pure Italian in that as I'm sure Naples has its own version of the Italian dialect?.....It could of been total bollocks I was told on that though......"