West Ham Online

"Posted the same last year. Nothing has changed, except win don't win matches anymore. I'm fed up, we can do much better"

"I think that Moyes still has the majority of fans with him and a win against Wolves will reinforce that. However if by the WC22 break in the season we are still third bottom and looking likely to lose touch with teams above I think the owners will sack him. Other than the nonsensical retaining of Grant the owners acted in a timely fashion when dumping Bilic and Pellegrini so they will not act differently now. If Moyes gets the results to keep his job and keep us up I don't think that it ends there. The player investment probably, in the owners eyes, buys a top eight and a further European football finish. If Moyes does not manage that then it could well be deemed he has failed the owners who use that as a reason to dump him. In summing up a continuation of our bad run and Moyes goes, a run of results that keeps us up but fails to get us into Europe means likely sacking at the end of the season, a top eight finish and Moyes stays. Moyes does have a get out of jail free card which is despite a struggling domestic season we manage to win the European Conference trophy."

"Sullivan is not one for sacking managers - its expensive With a sale price option agreed, the cost of sacking the manager, won't be borne by Sullivan, if he sells to Kretinsky. He will still get the same amount, regardless of what Moyes's pay off costs. In the same way, the recent splurge on transfers, won't affect what Sullivan gets, if he sells up."

"Not a pop at miike, but always makes me laugh when someone talks about 31 years ago like it was a few months back."

"That 'Super insert managers name here, he knows exactly what we need etc etc.' is sung by pretty much every single club at the moment. It's up there with 'We are by far the greatest team the world has ever seen' in the originality stakes. I wish we didn't sing embarrassing shit like this full stop. I remember when we used to be pretty original with songs. Now it's just whatever is going round on Twitter. Really hoping we don't start singing that cunting song for any of our players that Arsenal sing for Saliba."

"Oh look, TRIGGERED Miike is all triggered because someone else has an opinion he doesn't like. Go take a cold shower and calm down, you silly twat."

"yes, that day up at villa park when we sang ""Billy Bonds Claret & Blue Army"" constantly for an hour while getting beat 4-0 was so cringe. just fuck off"

"""Could do with binning that shit super David Moyes chant on the road too."" Do the away fans still sing that? How embarrassing. That song and ""David Moyes' claret and blue army"" are both utter cringe. Only sycophantic wankers sing them. The claret and blue army song should remain ""We are West Ham's claret and blue army"" for good."

I actually think that Moyes might put out a more attacking line up with the new players in the next game and if it goes wrong Moyes's ego/stubbornness will tell us that he was right to persevere with his own ideas. He reminds me of Sullivan

"It's still a history that suggest he isn't a sure thing to stay up. I actually agree, without lockdown we'd have gone down. We was still lucky cos Bournemouth & Watford was so poor , I remember we all kept losing when the restart happened. I just think it's obvious this isn't gonna end well. No point hanging about"

I think that 100% safe line changes once the fans turn at the next home game if it goes the way we expect. Could do with binning that shit super David Moyes chant on the road too.

"Bit harsh to say Moyes has a history of relegation. That happened once, in his season at Sunderland, inheriting a team that finished 17th the season before, and ended up bottom of the Championship the season after he left. Mind you, I reckon we might have got relegated under him when he took over from Pellegrini, if it wasn't for the lockdown and mid season break. He only got 7 points from his first 12 games in charge, and that was with Fabianski back from injury. I think a lot of people forget we were in 3rd place after 7 games when he got injured and things then turned to shit."

"I don't think you can say we won't go down. Moyes has history of relegation, you'd think we'd have enough but there is a rot that has set in. I agree this is the perfect time to change but these slags in charge won't pay to get anyone decent in anyways."

"Should have binned the fella Sunday night, give noble a go as caretaker"

"Here is a sobering though these players have scored more on their own than our entire team has managed in the Premier League: Gabriel Jesus (4), Alexis MacAllister (4), Wilfried Zaha (4), Rodrigo (4), Ivan Toney (5), Aleksandar Mitrovic (6), Harry Kane (6), Erling Haaland (11) Sack Moyes now before it gets to be a mountain to climb"

Maybe he should bring in Big Dunc as another coach.

The problem is how many games will we need to lose before the owners will act. Lose against Wolves and surely he has to go.

"I hear what folk are saying about 'being patient' but frankly I don't think we have the luxury of delaying this. The World Cup will start in about 8 WEEKS... in two or three weeks, that will be hard on the horizon, and nobody will want to discuss the position with us until after the WC is over. That means we would be stuck with Moyes until the New Year. Unless he really changes course 'now' (and I simply don't see that happening) then by the New Year we will be in an horrendous nosedive and possibly adrift in the bottom three, irretrievably. We have the ideal opportunity right now - we can move him on, we have a fortnight to get our new man in, and we can look forward to the next few games as the start of something new, rather than what we will get otherwise i.e. more of the same. I stand by what I said on this some time back - he was relying on Pearce, Irvine and Noble to steer the ship and control the dressing room respectively, and without them we are seeing the man laid bare. That would be the man that blew out so spectacularly at Man Utd, Sunderland etc. It cannot go on..."

I was hoping Moyes would have been sacked on Sunday night. We will now have the slow saga of Moyes defending a point against Wolves and Fulham and losing to Southampton and if he is still hanging on an embarrassing defeat to the scouse scum should be the end of his time with us. Alternatively get rid now and get a decent manager in and we could end up winning all both home matches and ahving a go away from home against Saints and Scouse.

"We won't go down, not going to happen, but would could happen is our season could peter out into nothing by November, all in front of 62000 fans. Nowhere near acceptable."

"""You can be sure they'll have a short-list prepared as a contingency plan. They'd be stupid not to"" honestly you never know with these idiots."

"Exactly. Right now we are languishing as cellar dwellers but not in imminent of relegation. Come late October if our shit form continues Sully's arsehole will be going tanner-half a crown, pouting like a super model. What will he do then and will it be too late? The change is needed now and I think he must know this as his investment is in jeopardy and if he's too late to act it may be all over and bang...we are relegated."

It's not looking good for him The board have said that his job is 100% safe We all know what happens when you get the dreaded vote of confidence! I wonder whose names are already in the hat? You can be sure they'll have a short-list prepared as a contingency plan. They'd be stupid not to

you'd assume most of the (agreed) price is dependent on PL status - at the moment that's not really under threat. Sullivan won't do anything until our PL status is really at risk.

"Not sure Goose as Sully wants to sell his shareholding in March and needs the team to be well up the league by then. I wonder if the Czech is pushing Sully to get in a new man, Ponch would be a brilliant step up....here's me wishing. Whatever the upshot Moyes needs to go and surely Sullivan knows that and wants to maximise his investment."

Sullivan is not one for sacking managers - its expensive and he always trots out some stats about teams changing managers and not improving. I guess that depends on finding the right man - which they won't. We will limp along like this for some time to come unless we start getting tonked every week. At which point we will be a much less attractive proposition and our best players will be wanting out. yay