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HS2 may not run through to central London - report

Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 11:09
by Westham67
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64421566 They are making it up as they go along Its not surprising as ground was broken too early just to push to the project through Crossrail on steroids

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Posted: 29 Jan 2023, 12:03
by dm
Anders 11:58 Well said. The UK should have started building HS2 ten years ago. And the full Y shaped network should be reinstated.

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Posted: 29 Jan 2023, 11:58
by Anders
"While rail demand in and around London is still below pre-pandemic levels, north south rail travel is now at 110% and growing, which shows the obvious need for HS2. More travel options and choice going north will only be a good thing. As HS1 in Kent has shown, people value speed, reliability and convenience. It’s no accident that an increasing part of West Ham’s fan base comes from Kent, and that is down to HS1. Build it and they will come. This story is just muck raking from the kiddies rag, the Editors don’t know their arse from their elbow. Once HS2 opens and people realise how reliable a brand new railway is compared to the current Victorian mess, they will wonder how comes we haven’t had it before. All the people shouting that it will be a white elephant will ultimately have to deal with a shitload of egg on face."

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Posted: 29 Jan 2023, 08:16
by Mike Oxsaw
"HS2 is/was never, ever, about improving the transport infrastructure in the UK or ""levelling up"" the north (of Watford). It was all about resolving the fact that the UK is/was probably the only country in the civilised world without a (proper) High Speed railway. That bit of track from the Channel Tunnel is simply a branch line out of Lille - the modern day equivalent of the Titfield Thunderbolt - a fact (FACT) that politicians and (senior) civil servants detested being pointed out when the subject of transport ever came up at international meetings."

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Posted: 28 Jan 2023, 15:49
by SurfaceAgentX2Zero
Stoke on Trent is the 10th largest city in England and an absolute 100% khazi. HS2 is supposed to be revitalising the north of England. Why then will HS2 go straight through the middle of Stoke but not stop there? The whole thing is madness.

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 23:21
by Exiled In Surrey
Convert it to a cycle path

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 14:10
by eusebiovic
It would probably have made much more sense to run it down to the old Kensington Olympia Station - I think that was the original plan over 100 years ago but it never quite happened due to vested interests. Sounds familiar doesn't it?

Re: HS2 may not run through to central London - report

Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 14:04
by Westham67
"Its not like a politician ""Massage"" the truth especially when they are likely to be of office in 18 months time"

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 14:01
by Westham67
"Very true Mike the most troublesome and time consuming structures , earthworks and land acquisition.The section between Birmingham and Nottingham 50 viaduct over 12 Km roughly and 60 odd overbridges The one I was speaking with they have not tendered for the Birmingham section"

Re: HS2 may not run through to central London - report

Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 13:58
by Toe Rag
"Haha, I’ve got cheese on the brain!"

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 13:58
by MancIron
"what Toe Rag said used to enjoy a pint in the Bree Louise, at the time the only decent boozer near Euston Euston tap is a reasonable replacement though."

Re: HS2 may not run through to central London - report

Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 13:56
by Mike Oxsaw
I suspect that the whole country knows more about HS2 than Jeremy Hunt.

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 13:52
by Far Cough
Oxsnore knows more about HS2 than Jeremy Hunt Bravo

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 13:52
by Toe Rag
They demolished a good REAL ALE pub for this. RIP the Brie Louise.

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 13:48
by Mike Oxsaw
"It may well eventually reach Euston, but I suspect the opening of the Old Oak Common to Euston part of the line won't actually happen until about 2040 following push-back after push-back, so, as stated already, passengers will be expected to use the Elizabeth Line for that part of their journey. There will be no saving in overall end-to-end journey times unless and until that leg is complete."

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 13:38
by Far Cough
"Hunt: HS2 will go to central London In the last few moments, Jeremy Hunt has reiterated that HS2 will go all the way to London Euston station as planned. It follows reports that the high-speed rail line may no longer reach central London. ""I don't see any conceivable circumstance in which that would not end up at Euston,"" he says. Article share tools"

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 13:12
by RBshorty
Money get's tight. The shit get's real.

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 13:03
by Westham67
They plan to use the Elizabeth line to get the HS2 terminal which means more fares And 2033 is a reach as well

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 12:17
by overbyyer
"There's too much completed infrastructure through the Chilterns for it to be curtailed - more likely to revert to a second West Coast mainline with stops at newly created 'new towns' along the the route, or perhaps more of a priority for freight services as they currently struggle for decent access to the existing west Coast mainline."

Re: HS2 may not run through to central London - report

Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 12:17
by overbyyer
"There's too much completed infrastructure through the Chilterns for it to be curtailed - more likely to revert to a second West Coast mainline with stops at newly created 'new towns' along the the route, or perhaps more of a priority for freight services as they currently struggle for decent access to the existing west Coast mainline."

Re: HS2 may not run through to central London - report

Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 12:06
by Mike Oxsaw
Prelude to cancellation without losing face? They may just add a couple more lines from Paddington to Old Oak Common and claim full delivery to London that way.

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 11:53
by only1billybonds
Colossal waste of money from day 1.

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 11:24
by Leonard Hatred
FMOB

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Posted: 27 Jan 2023, 11:21
by ted fenton
Just seen this on the News kind of defeats the object doesn't it !!