Stephen Fry on Kuntsberg

[COOL HAND LUKE]

"This fat, stupid, useless bastard has popped up on Kuntsberg's utterly Biased Bullshit Corporation show, pissing and moaning about Brexit. Apparently, we've ALL 'changed our minds' and think it's a catastrophe... he presented this as a FACT, and of course the Kunt' did little to deter or correct him... Barclays like Fry give air to their brainwashed views and never seem to get challenged - perhaps she knew he would be struck dumb if she'd said, ""Okay, and what exactly do you base that comment on Stephen?"" And of course, that's his live appearances shot to shit - he's just alienated around 60% of any fanbase likely to attend them. Mug."

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"I'm not anti US or anti west. I'm also not in North Korea. Not sure what my post misinterpreted, or was hypocritical and perverse either. Please don't repond to me again though. Thanks in advance."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Amazing way of misinterpreting the situation to suit your weird anti-US, anti West agenda, Kenneth. Why aren't you posting from Pyongyang, you perverse little hypocrite?"

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"Yeah Ukranians must be delighted. They got dragged into a US proxy war, using billions in weapons and aid on tick, whilst being nowhere near winning the war and spiralling the estimated cost of the nations rebuild. Spot on, that."

[goose]

Spot on according to a long necked cuckold who can’t even grasp basic economics.

[Hammer and Pickle]

Biden's Ukraine policy has been spot on. His domestic policy seems solid and countercyclical as well. On the other hand the big problem is China and here he has been a massive disappointment.

[goose]

Karen’s posts are a fucking ‘disaster’.

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"CM - For someone that says they're not particularly woke or left wing - You do come across as an aggressive woke liberal that hates democracy, and will vilify everyone and anyone that doesn't support your opinion. 82% of Democrat registered voters were polled by CNN as wanting someone else than Biden. 61% of Americans believe he was involved in Hunter's corruption. 55%, also believe the Joe Biden acted inappropriately regarding the investigation. You'd have been up in arms if this was Trump and his son, as you would have been over the current state of the US."

[stewie griffin]

"i think your purple hair dye is getting in your eyes again. In the interests of clarity, it is customary to put a word in quotation marks when quoting someone. Since I have never used the word 'disaster' - except when quoting you - your continued use of quotation marks suggests you either can't read, or you just lack basic English skills. I see you've now followed up with a post admitting that you were hopelessly wrong, but have performed some excellent gymnastics to make it seem as though you weren't. All of which forms a perfect circle back to the post of yours which drew my attention in the first place, where you accused Miike of being ""the kind of spineless slugs who always looks for someone else to blame when stuff he supports go wrong""....and, quite magnificently, in the space of 5 posts across 18 minutes, you've proven beyond any reasonable doubt that your description is, in fact, a 100% accurate self assessment. Enjoy your day of intellectual sparring with Joy Behar."

[Capitol Man]

"Presumably you’re able to make the leap from “incompetent” to “disaster” - was that just to buy some time to come up with some examples? Was it criticizing brexit that upset you so much that you decided to talk about Biden? You’ll show that leftie won’t you,"

[Capitol Man]

"I was trying to help you Stevie. You’ve got nothing but bluster as usual have you. Come on, a “disaster” should have an actual example if it’s a “disaster” and you should actually be able so give a single example of “corruption”. Biden isn’t inspiring and is too old, but that doesn’t make you any less “full to the brim of shit” does it."

[Capitol Man]

"I was trying to help you Stevie. You’ve got nothing but bluster as usual have you. Come on, a “disaster” should have an actual example if it’s a “disaster” and you should actually be able so give a single example of “corruption”. Biden isn’t inspiring and is too old, but that doesn’t make you any less “full to the brim of shit” does it."

[stewie griffin]

"Why have you put the word 'disaster' in quotation marks? Who are you quoting? This 'Stevie' person, I assume, whomever that may be Still - excellent revelation that you are the one remaining person who believes he isn't dodgy as fuck. Even CNN have admitted it now."

[Capitol Man]

And while we are at it - actual examples of corruption would be a good start. You know actual evidence.

[Capitol Man]

"You’re a man who’s always full of himself Stevie. Let’s go through it with you coming up with some examples. Sure you have them to hand. IRA, Ukraine policy, soft landing from global inflation, strong growth rates. What exactly do you consider a “disaster”? Some actual examples mind."

[stewie griffin]

"""the kind of spineless slugs who always looks for someone else to blame when stuff he supports go wrong"" fascinating... do you blame yourself for the incompetent & heinously corrupt Biden administration? or someone else?"

[Capitol Man]

What you see here from the likes of thicki here is the kind of spineless slugs who always looks for someone else to blame when stuff he supports go wrong. Same kind of idiot who led the brexit push from the start. Funny watching him and others embarrassing themselves trying to find someone else to blame though.

[Takashi Miike]

"""Even now there are rumours of the Tories splitting as the Brexit populists run for the hills."" they're not tories, none of them. just an extension of Blair's new labour, a gaggle of traitorous cunts that conserve nothing and led by someone that would never ever win a general election but was put there to carry on the destruction of the country. once complete he'll fuck off back to california or India with the billionaire wife"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Trauma like dissociation? Brought on by an individual's country parting company with an overarching, foreign administrative organisation? Losing your job on account of the Labour initiated coal mine closure programme I can accept as potentially traumatic, but no longer having around a gaggle of pen-pushers, form-fillers and box tickers who you're never likely to interact with? Sorry, but I can't fit any more laughs up my sleeve and will have to let that one go."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Trauma like dissociation? Brought on by an individual's country parting company with an overarching, foreign administrative organisation? Losing your job on account of the Labour initiated coal mine closure programme I can accept as potentially traumatic, but no longer having around a gaggle of pen-pushers, form-fillers and box tickers who you're never likely to interact with? Sorry, but I can't fit any more laughs up my sleeve and will have to let that one go."

[Sir Alf]

"Yes H&P, we all carry some psychological baggage which if significant enough to be classed as trauma, ( different for everyone , could be as simple as feeling you were ignored by your parents :-( ), it impacts all thru life and results in difficulty opening one’s mind, willing to be wrong. Basic psychology that all the various schools of thought agree on. Which is why hard to have a dialogue with many people ( not just on WHO). But politically, it’s all about going with tge populist, short term trend and if Brexit is going to help a party of politician get a vote, by either supporting it or blaming it, the politician will go that way. Not sure there was ever a truly altruistic but in the modern, interconnected world of “instant gratification” it’s nigh on impossible. No one would ever vote for the party or person that would look at the long term , well being of everyone as the short term sacrifice would be too much for them as an individual. :-)."

[Willtell]

"I'm sorry to hear about your ""actual forms of trauma, like dissociation."" Pickle. I know it must be terrible for you to be so far away from England in Poland"

[WHU(Exeter)]

Trauma like dissociation? I think I’ve got some plasters somewhere if that would help?

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Sir Alf At the personal level, I agree it doesn’t much matter who is right or wrong. The affective aspect is far more important, especially where we are dealing with actual forms of trauma, like dissociation, which I suspect is the one most common here. Impossible to deal with on here, I’m afraid, as the process of emergence is often all about going deep into highly personal issues and history. The politics though is an entirely different matter. There will be no healing, I fear, without accountability. Even now there are rumours of the Tories splitting as the Brexit populists run for the hills."

[Lee Trundle]

Capitol Man 3:18 Wed Sep 13 That twice in 2 days you've waded into MY conversation. You're not all there in the head if you think I'm the one stalking you.

[Sir Alf]

"My opinion is a little different but not original or unique as several academics and economists, even one retired politician have said similar. The view being that almost all vocal opponents and supporters of Brexit have it wrong. History and the many facets to it mean its effect and judgement of whether it was right or wrong will take 10, 15 maybe 20 years to properly measure. And the measurement is not just economic but cultural, law and order/crime, living and life standards etc. Wait and see a bit longer before cherry picking stats to satisfy a personal viewpoint or decision that individuals made. The psychology is central to it too as it was such a binary thing. People seeing it as picking a winner and in so doing elevating themselves above those that picked the losing side. Fragile psychology and self esteem causing some losers to desperately see a reverse of tge decision and a poor outcome. some of those that voted for satisfy ego and narcissistic traits but equally being fearful of having voted the wrong way. People making it about themselves in other words :-). Time will tell and it really is too early to know. Of course those with the aforementioned closed minds will continue to make it about them. I voted to exit but may well have got it wrong. But I also see some events that suggest I got it right overall. Summary, be willing to be wrong. Doesn’t mean you are but be willing to be. Makes the discussion of a subject like Brexit a lot easier :-)"