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"OS Tim Steidten appointed West Ham United Technical Director West Ham United is delighted to announce the appointment of Tim Steidten as the Club’s Technical Director. Steidten will be responsible for the Club's overarching player recruitment strategy and scouting department, working closely with Manager David Moyes and Sporting Director Mark Noble. The Technical Director role has been implemented as part of the Club’s continued growth strategy and comes at a key moment in West Ham United’s history, with the Hammers’ victory in the UEFA Europa Conference League earlier this month securing a third successive season in European competition. One of the game’s most-admired football administrators, 44-year-old Steidten brings his own added experience of European football to East London, having previously fulfilled a similar role with Bayer 04 Leverkusen in his native Germany, at a time when the Hammers are enjoying a sustained period of success at both first team and Academy level. Arriving at Leverkusen from Werder Bremen in June 2019, Steidten was responsible for overseeing a pivotal period in the Club’s history, with his data-led approach to scouting yielding some immediate positive results in the transfer market, recruiting a number of unheralded gems, before nurturing them into highly-coveted stars. His arrival is set to complement the strong existing UEFA Europa Conference League winning squad on and off the pitch, with further significant experience and expertise. Moyes said: “On behalf of everyone at the Club, I would like to welcome Tim to the West Ham United family. He has a strong track record in elite level football and we’re really looking forward to working with him.” Joint-Chair David Sullivan said: “Our goal when we became custodians of West Ham United and moved to London Stadium was to bring silverware to this incredible Club and to regularly compete in European football. We’ve enjoyed some fantastic times in recent seasons, and we aim to continue to grow and evolve across all areas of the Club. Tim’s appointment is key to our wider plans to drive our football strategy forward. We are delighted to welcome such a well-respected name in the game to the Club.” Steidten said: “I am extremely proud to be joining West Ham United, at such an exciting time in this Club’s incredible history. Building on the Club’s recent European success, there is already a fantastic team in place, but also so much ambition – from the Board, the Manager, his staff and the players – to continue succeeding, developing and growing. I cannot wait to play a key part in that. Come on you Irons!”"
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goose 8:30 'Let’s hope he’s given the scope & authority to do his role effectively.' 100% the key factor here.
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"This is Kretinsky doing. Who took Hlozek to the Bundesliga.? Who wanted to buy Coufal back in the winter.? The reason this guy hasn't rocked up at The POOL, Rent Boys. Or N17. Is because it part of Kretinsky grand plan."
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Looks like a great fit on paper. Let’s hope he’s given the scope & authority to do his role effectively.
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"Interesting move given Moyes' former absolute insistence on not having one, so I wonder what this means in the big picture. A compromise demanded of Moyes by Sullivan in order to keep his job? First step to engineering an exit down the line? However I seem to remember Sullivan not being keen on one in the past either for obvious reasons as it meant he had to keep his little fingers out of things, so is it something that other people in or with a stake in the club might have pushed for? Ultimately though, a DOF is only going to be as successful as they are allowed to be by the majority of ownership who of course still can veto anything they don't want. Luckily that's not necessarily Sullivan now. Wild speculation, I wonder if Sullivan now with David Gold gone finds that the 'Gold family estate' don't automatically side with him on everything and they and Kretinsky might align to get things done in a different and more modern and professional way? I can imagine the Gold family member who is active (Is it one of the daughter's husbands?) probably has more in common thinking with Kretinsky than Sullivan and they are the kingmakers within the club. Trip Smith's stake is too small to allow him to have a decisive impact."
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"Never really thought much of these type of appointments, what’s Newman doing or done?"
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Looks a fantastic appointment. Well done hammers.
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"Was still wanted by Spurs apparently and was 50/50 who he chose, according to a German sports journalist on KUMB who also said this Very good talent spotter. Tim left Leverkusen out of nowhere in March as they were reluctant in promoting him to the vacant sporting director position. Brought back Serge Gnabry to Germany after his torrid time at Arsenal and West Brom. Very well connected into french football. Jeremie Frimpong, Edmond Tapsoba, Odilon Kossounou and Piero Hincapie; all signed via his connections at Bayer Leverkusen. We can expect an total overhaul of our scouting department."
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Great appointment ‚öíÔ?è
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"This Steitden bloke was apparently wanted by Chelsea last summer, Liverpool in March and Spurs last month. You have to wonder why none of them went for him in the end, and why he suddenly left his last club with immediate effect ""by mutual consent"" in March. Can see why Sully would be interested in him as they're both stats nerds apparently and Leverkusen have got a good rep for buying players cheap who are now worth a lot more."
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"exactly Swindon. the discussion is a few weeks old, but the notion that we were 'surprised' by Paqueta or didnt know where he played is ridiculous."
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Noble is the sporting director supposed to oversee the club's ethos from top to bottom while this new bloke is supposed to recruit the players and coaches to implement this ethos I am not sure how it will work with a manager with one year left on his contract and very specific approach to football. Which some would argue went against the clubs ethos. but having said that was is the ethos that Sullivan wants from a club
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"goose, Moyes said that we inquired about Paqueta earlier in the transfer window last summer but were told he wasn’t for sale which is why we went in for Onana. Lyon then decided to cash in towards the end of the window."
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"Thx Alan, interesting news ( if true ). As mentioned in another thread, it’s the remit if the role that’s key. If it’s fixing transfers then surely it’s about setting a philosophy for the club, improving scouting and going for the best young players with resale value. Brighton use their “standardize” model or algorithm built over several years and largely data analytics. Anyone have a clue what this German geezer has done at Leverkusen and how? Did he oversee scouting infrastructure? Did he oversee football ethos across all levels including youth teams? Was he successful? Does it include raining facility upgrades? Is it a Redbull approach he advocates just like Moyes talked about but has not followed ? What will Newman do ? And Noble? How will Moyes and Co all work as a team ?"
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"Mail West Ham will appoint former Bayer Leverkusen chief Tim Steidten as technical director... with a deal agreed prior to the Hammers' Europa Conference League triumph Tim Steidten has agreed a deal to become West Ham's new technical director An agreement was sealed ahead of West Ham's Europa Conference League win The German, who left Bayer Leverkusen in March, will sign his contract shortly By Sami Mokbel West Ham are set to announce the appointment of former Bayer Leverkusen chief Tim Steidten as the club's new technical director. Tim Steidten, left, will become West Ham technical director as part of planned restructuring The Hammers had been considering candidates for the position as part of a planned restructuring. A deal was agreed with Steidten ahead of West Ham's triumph in the Europa Conference League final, which qualified the club for next season's Europa League. Steidten, who left Leverkusen in March, is set to sign a contract shortly to take on the technical director role at West Ham. Lee Dykes of Brentford and Paul Mitchell, who is leaving his role at Monaco, were also considered as contenders for the position. Steidten is expected to work alongside sporting director Mark Noble. The 44-year-old initially transitioned from a professional playing career in the German lower leagues to scouting, arriving at Werder Bremen in 2008. He then left the Bundesliga outfit in 2019 to become head of scouting at Leverkusen. Steidten is credited as having played a key role in the acquisitions of several young talents at the club, such as Edmond Tapsoba, Jeremie Frimpong and Piero Hincapie. Reports last month claimed Steidten was also under consideration by Tottenham, as the north London club seek a replacement for Fabio Paratici as their sporting director."
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Going to get interesting if this Tim does sign after Moyes previous comments on sporting directors
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https://www.westhamzone.com/boardroom/fabrizio-romano-deal-done-and-almost-sealed-for-west-ham-united-to-hire-tim-steidten/?amp
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"The role of Sullivan is remains an unknown. Moyes went out if his way to say he controlled all in kings and outgoings? But as it a case of “he doth protest to much” ? And Moyes simply covering for Sully to win favour? He ( Moyes ) certainly extols the virtues of the owners at every turn ? No wonder they like him as Sullivan has not had to dodge a coin or been subject to one fan riot for ages ;-) But, as per the Moyes out thread, until the owner has a vision, strategy or long term plan that encompasses the football side and philosophy, scouting, recruitment, youth development, player development. Training facilities, commercial reach etc. a DOF sounds just like another “screen” to hide behind. A good, psychologically we’ll owner would be open to bringing in someone to run everything in a joined up fashion but you can bet it will be piecemeal and be a one or two season outlook at best before failing and we start over yet again. Pessimistic, miserable of course but where is the evidence to suggest any real progress in 13 years other than this and last season. Now it could be that against the odds we make Europe again and Moyes gets us up around 6th and 7th again next season but Sullivan would have stumbled on that and who really believes it’s going to happen?"
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"The role of Sullivan is remains an unknown. Moyes went out if his way to say he controlled all in kings and outgoings? But as it a case of “he doth protest to much” ? And Moyes simply covering for Sully to win favour? He ( Moyes ) certainly extols the virtues of the owners at every turn ? No wonder they like him as Sullivan has not had to dodge a coin or been subject to one fan riot for ages ;-) But, as per the Moyes out thread, until the owner has a vision, strategy or long term plan that encompasses the football side and philosophy, scouting, recruitment, youth development, player development. Training facilities, commercial reach etc. a DOF sounds just like another “screen” to hide behind. A good, psychologically we’ll owner would be open to bringing in someone to run everything in a joined up fashion but you can bet it will be piecemeal and be a one or two season outlook at best before failing and we start over yet again. Pessimistic, miserable of course but where is the evidence to suggest any real progress in 13 years other than this and last season. Now it could be that against the odds we make Europe again and Moyes gets us up around 6th and 7th again next season but Sullivan would have stumbled on that and who really believes it’s going to happen?"
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"The facts show that Moyes was fully in charge of transfers, has the final say and was happy with the players we signed. On top of that he never said anything about not knowing where to play Paqueta or being surprised by him. He just said it’s worked better with him playing slightly deeper."
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What did I make up? It’s you picking holes in a possibility that Sullivan’s finger prints are left on the £200m spent in last year.
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Trust you to make stuff up.
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Trust you to defend Moyes!
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"there's nothing in that quote that shows Moyes was ""surprised"" or did not know how to use him. he's admitted that Paqueta has performed better playing ""slightly deeper""."
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Yes but the point is that Moyes should have known what position Paqueta played before signing him. It became public that it was a surprise to Moyes that our £50m Brazilian signing was a DM and not a number 10. We can all see that he has become a number 10 in recent weeks but how did we get there and why did it take months to get there? Are we now looking at a DOF because Newman is crap at his job or because Sullivan went back to his roots to impose a Brazilian attacker on Moyes? I don't know but it doesn't seem to all be down to Moyes...
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