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Well, El Flop needs fucking off tonight.

Sergio Conceicao isn't working, worth a go?

The immediate need for a pragmatic manager? Mourinho.  Never happen though. He’s in a job so Sullivan wont “out of principle” ( Sullivan and principles is an oxymoron with emphasis on the moron bit) .  He will also avoid Mourinho because he will be faced with someone who will be honest with his opinions and tell our little Napolean what he thinks and wants.  

I dont like his football much but with our squad its a better match and far more likely to get results imo

[Adds Bob Holness to list]

We've got more chance of getting Bob Holness and he's been dead 12 years.

There’s no way Hoeness would even take our phone call. Unless Kretinski goes the full takeover and kicks our Glorious Leader into touch.? And that ain’t happening.

Don’t forget Southgate SBB.

Btw, if we DID appoint Hoeneß, would that make us the first club to appoint a manager with a Germanic sharp 's' in his name? Fuck it - let's just do it for that reason. It looks like we gave the job to Lopetegui for non-footballing reasons.

I genuinely can't see us buying a manager out of their contract, though, unless Kretinsky takes the lead on the new appointment and is prepared to bankroll it. Sullivan won't want to do it: I think he's never done it in decades as a chairman.

Which leaves us with the likes of Terzic, Potter, Schmidt, the Dane who struggled in Germany or the return of pants-down Pards (!).

I like Carrick, btw, and think he should be on our list. Dunno if I'd put him at the top of it, but I like the cut of his jib.

He's done a good at Middlesbrough on a much lower budget than they used to have - and certainly a lot less than Leeds, Burnley, WBA etc this season. To extend that laboured metaphor from the Boro fan further down this thread, Carrick strikes me as the sort of person who, if you gave him the keys to a better car, would get it to perform pretty well. Very little phases him, and he's been there and done it as a player - and also as a coach at Man Utd. He's got a young side at the moment, and they can be naive, but he's still got them three points off the play-offs.

But the annoying thing about all of these names (Carrick, Hoeness, Terzic, Schmidt etc) - we should have been talking to them over the summer. Not asking them to come and do a rescue job because the denim-obsessed 'dad lost in Next' has fucked us up.

LJC wrote: ↑06 Nov 2024, 21:44 3 more in the media tonight… Sebastian Hoeness, Kasper Hjulmand and Roger Schmidt.

I think the writing is on the wall for Loppy before a ball is even kicked on Saturday. With leaks and potential names in the frame from Sullivan’s usual puppets, maybe he’s looking to own this fuck up and do the right thing. There’s always a first for everything. 
 

All I know is .
i would  have more faith in the magic roundabout characters on a Friday night session  than our Board to appoint the right man/woman/not sure

3 more in the media tonight… Sebastian Hoeness, Kasper Hjulmand and Roger Schmidt.

Haven't seen any betting odds, is Craig Bellamy on the list?

LJC wrote: ↑06 Nov 2024, 20:49 To be honest I don’t know how he is getting on this season, just clicked on one of their forums…

“Carrick ball doesn’t work consistently enough to get results. Far too often we start games slowly, particularly in homes games. Do the players even believe in the way they’re being asked to play ? You could sense the nerves from the off yesterday, we were on the back foot from the first minute. That should not be happening in a home game.”

“At some point someone at the Club needs to realise that the battery is just about flat, stop cranking the engine. Carrick needs to find and fix the fault or someone needs to go and get the jump leads. Personally I think he's scratching his head with a screwdriver while Woody is holding the manual upside down with a finger up his own nose trying to scratch his itchy eye. I'm not convinced it's going to start any time soon.”

I know it’s not that simple but it’s the easiest place to start, with their fans but then they could just be like this place…

To be honest I don’t know how he is getting on this season, just clicked on one of their forums…

“Carrick ball doesn’t work consistently enough to get results. Far too often we start games slowly, particularly in homes games. Do the players even believe in the way they’re being asked to play ? You could sense the nerves from the off yesterday, we were on the back foot from the first minute. That should not be happening in a home game.”

“At some point someone at the Club needs to realise that the battery is just about flat, stop cranking the engine. Carrick needs to find and fix the fault or someone needs to go and get the jump leads. Personally I think he's scratching his head with a screwdriver while Woody is holding the manual upside down with a finger up his own nose trying to scratch his itchy eye. I'm not convinced it's going to start any time soon.”

I know it’s not that simple but it’s the easiest place to start, with their fans but then they could just be like this place…

Tomsdad wrote: ↑06 Nov 2024, 19:04 Mentioned him earlier Zico.
He gets my vote.

My preference would be Carrick. Young. English. West Ham. Wants his teams to play the way he was accustomed to as a player. Would likely be more willing to bring through those of our academy he was a product of.

It may seem more of a gamble, but I’d rather look to create tomorrows best than keep chasing high profiles with nowhere left to go.

Sadly I think we’ll end up with Benitez.

 

Mentioned him earlier Zico.
He gets my vote.

What about Michael Carrick?  Too early?

You will like Potter then Alf! Isn’t he known for changing his tactics about 3 times during numerous games?

I droned on about this on the Loppu thread, that its my humble opinion that whoever coaches us, from here on, has to have tactical flexibility and be willing and experienced in getting teams to play in more than one way based on who we are playing and even during games.  Thats particularly pertinent due to our incomplete, inadequate / poor recruitment in central midfield and up top centrally.

So many football coaches and managers’ tactics and formations nowadays seem to be one dimensional almost cult or relgious like with some that are  “Pep disciples”, tika taka or those that take the “Heavy metal gegenpress” approach of Klopp etc.   As Stubbo or someone pointed out the other day, what about the old adage “horses for courses” and adjusting the tactics by game, in game depending on who you face and how the game pans out?  In our case, we simply have to put our desire for a fast tempo, possession based game ( aka exciting, entertaining ) from our team on the back burner for this season at least. We could employ a better coach of course and that might help a bit but Im convinced even with better coaching that we dont have the players for central midfield and in the centre forward birth to play the “tika taka” game and fast “gegenpress” style of Klopp or the geezer at Bournemouth. We dont have the players for it in the central midfield. We are going to have sit deeper, pull the wing backs from the advanced positions and be , as much as it hurts to say, much more compact and static positionally but hopefully not to “Moyesball” low block extremes with 25% or less possession and those mind numbing “alamo” style defensive performances for 70 mins every game.

Loppy might surprise us and prove me wrong ( he wouldnt be the first thats for sure ) and make adjustments to see us improve or his current tactics might suddenly start working but it looks extremely unlikely.  I think we will lose or at best draw this Sat and the performance will be “disjointed” again  at best over 90 mins ( not a bold prediction that describes the 12 games under Loppy and pre season). Sullivan wont act though until near or even after Xmas once we have lost to Arsenal and Newcastle and perhaps one or two others and we are either in or just outside the bottom 3.  

Swiss. wrote: ↑06 Nov 2024, 15:32 Steidten has already distanced himself from the Loppy appointment. He will leave definately in the summer maybe even in Jan. 

Steidten has already distanced himself from the Loppy appointment. He will leave definately in the summer maybe even in Jan. 

Instead of wasting millions of £s on average players, Sullivan could have spent circa £10m to get Iraola out of Bouremouth.