The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

[Come On You Irons]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

[Nurse Ratched]

Bottom line, if Saint Barak of Obama was driving these deportations of illegals, no one would care. 

[Pub Bigot]

More slave trade nonsense

£1.1 mill for a vanity project? Constantly harping on about the slave trade never the work done to stop it. 

If they want to build a memorial, do it for those who lost their lives stopping human trafficking, and shame the African chieftains who sold their own people. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

I don't have an issue with how they remove offending illegals, don't have an issue with targeted arrests full stop, it's more their routine "check ins" of places of work and rounding up of working illegals that all feels a little "where are your papers?" and wearing masks and balaclavas is reinforcing that image.

 

That's entirely the point, they don't have papers because they're, duh, fucking illegals.

And the masks and balaclavas wouldn't be necessary if they and their families weren't at risk of being doxed by scumny commies.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Yes, Trump did say the bloke murdered shouldn’t have been carrying a legal gun in a holster which was taken off him
I guess he is finally coming round to the idea that citizens walking round with guns is insane 
Maybe that’s progress … or a bit more dementia 

Why would you take a firearm to a vigil/protest?

And not just a regular run of the mill concealled carry straight out of the box one but one which is laser sighted...

What's the issue with a laser sight? if you had to use one why wouldn't you want to shoot straight? 

 

 

A pistol carried for self defence is likely to be used purely as a deterrent or at reasonably close range.

A laser sighted pistol implies a completely different intent and the presumption of needing to be very accurate at a longer range.

[Takashi Miike]

a vegetable hosts pmqs 

https://www.youtube.com/live/fhC6OSzozF ... E-v_NMUMlz

[Council Scum]

As an American who are entitled to carry a legal weapon to the grocery store, a protest, a Charlie Kirk rally, a President Trump rally, a child care centre, a school or a football match
Anyone who says otherwise is un American , a soft cock liberal commie and should be rounded up and deported. Or shot in the back by the ICE Gestapo

But why would you feel the need to take a laser sighted firearm to a protest?

If it's all tolerant soy fed commies on a jollytheys outing why would you even think "I know I'd better take my laser sighted Sig Sauer 9mm?"

I mean, he was a nurse, wouldn't he be taking a first aid kit to help. 

[THUNDERCLINT]

As an American who are entitled to carry a legal weapon to the grocery store, a protest, a Charlie Kirk rally, a President Trump rally, a child care centre, a school or a football match
Anyone who says otherwise is un American , a soft cock liberal commie and should be rounded up and deported. Or shot in the back by the ICE Gestapo

But why would you feel the need to take a laser sighted firearm to a protest?

If it's all tolerant soy fed commies on a jollytheys outing why would you even think "I know I'd better take my laser sighted Sig Sauer 9mm?"

[Council Scum]

I don't have an issue with how they remove offending illegals, don't have an issue with targeted arrests full stop, it's more their routine "check ins" of places of work and rounding up of working illegals that all feels a little "where are your papers?" and wearing masks and balaclavas is reinforcing that image.

It's one step away from checkpoints and national ID cards that nearly everyone here is dead against 

Easier to find someone when you know exactly where they are going to be isn't it?

Turn up at the house and they aren't there, you won't ever find them again. 

[Mr Anon]

I don't have an issue with how they remove offending illegals, don't have an issue with targeted arrests full stop, it's more their routine "check ins" of places of work and rounding up of working illegals that all feels a little "where are your papers?" and wearing masks and balaclavas is reinforcing that image.

It's one step away from checkpoints and national ID cards that nearly everyone here is dead against 

[Council Scum]

Doesn't that perfectly describe New York at its inception?

So because a City a few hundred years ago was infested with immigrants and crime, they should all be happy to go back to that, for the sake of more immigrants who still live like it was 200 years ago?

Great, lets just go back a few hundred years and be done with it, progress is over rated anyway. 

you've stopped even mentioning the "illegal" part then...No wasn't what I meant, just that New York has literally always been "infested" with immigrants, it's part of its identity. In terms of crime if there's the will to be hard on it and spend some money then you wont have to put up with it, most are there to work and keep out of trouble. Don't have an issue with deporting offending illegals, just think the currently tactics are all wrong .

 

 

Stopped mentioning? Not sure I started.

If someone is in the country illegally and a criminal I don't care how they get them out, you only need to look at home many foreign nationals due for deportation that reoffend in our country to know, that the courts/legal route simply doesn't work.  

Christ we try to deport Jamaican violent and sexually violent criminals all the time and all you get is "Windrush" and "He's got a family" and they are back of the plane and reoffending within the week. 

So I'd rather their tactics than ours, in 2022 alone 3000 foreign nationals reoffended over 10,000 times when they should have been kicked out. 

Only 3% of those who crossed illegally in small boats from 2018-2024 have been returned. 

Would love to know your way of removing them though. 

[Fauxstralian]

As an American who are entitled to carry a legal weapon to the grocery store, a protest, a Charlie Kirk rally, a President Trump rally, a child care centre, a school or a football match
Anyone who says otherwise is un American , a soft cock liberal commie and should be rounded up and deported. Or shot in the back by the ICE Gestapo

[Mr Anon]

Yes, Trump did say the bloke murdered shouldn’t have been carrying a legal gun in a holster which was taken off him
I guess he is finally coming round to the idea that citizens walking round with guns is insane 
Maybe that’s progress … or a bit more dementia 

Why would you take a firearm to a vigil/protest?

And not just a regular run of the mill concealled carry straight out of the box one but one which is laser sighted...

What's the issue with a laser sight? if you had to use one why wouldn't you want to shoot straight? any comments on the multiple videos of MAGAs carrying assault rifles at their protests or is that somehow different? It's all mental.

[THUNDERCLINT]

Yes, Trump did say the bloke murdered shouldn’t have been carrying a legal gun in a holster which was taken off him
I guess he is finally coming round to the idea that citizens walking round with guns is insane 
Maybe that’s progress … or a bit more dementia 

Why would you take a firearm to a vigil/protest?

And not just a regular run of the mill concealled carry straight out of the box one but one which is laser sighted...

[Mr Anon]

give me your illegal alien criminals
your societal outcasts, yearning to live here for free
the generous refuge of a corrupt benefits system galore  (in return for their vote one day)
NO send the gangbangers, drug dealers and rapists back 
and shut the fucking door.

Doesn't that perfectly describe New York at its inception?

So because a City a few hundred years ago was infested with immigrants and crime, they should all be happy to go back to that, for the sake of more immigrants who still live like it was 200 years ago?

Great, lets just go back a few hundred years and be done with it, progress is over rated anyway. 

you've stopped even mentioning the "illegal" part then...No wasn't what I meant, just that New York has literally always been "infested" with immigrants, it's part of its identity. In terms of crime if there's the will to be hard on it and spend some money then you wont have to put up with it, most are there to work and keep out of trouble. Don't have an issue with deporting offending illegals, just think the currently tactics are all wrong .

[nychammer]

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

 

Agree 100% Who TF needs to open carry a gun nowadays? What's the use case? Fire it for ANY reason and you'll be in a world of pain and likely in Jail or worse. Especially when you're facing down Law enforcement!  

[violator]

Calammyty sitting in for queer Kier at PMQ's...always comedy gold that fucking toad faced cսnt

[Fauxstralian]

Yes, Trump did say the bloke murdered shouldn’t have been carrying a legal gun in a holster which was taken off him
I guess he is finally coming round to the idea that citizens walking round with guns is insane 
Maybe that’s progress … or a bit more dementia 

[Council Scum]

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

give me your illegal alien criminals
your societal outcasts, yearning to live here for free
the generous refuge of a corrupt benefits system galore  (in return for their vote one day)
NO send the gangbangers, drug dealers and rapists back 
and shut the fucking door.

Doesn't that perfectly describe New York at its inception?

So because a City a few hundred years ago was infested with immigrants and crime, they should all be happy to go back to that, for the sake of more immigrants who still live like it was 200 years ago?

Great, lets just go back a few hundred years and be done with it, progress is over rated anyway. 

[nychammer]

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

give me your illegal alien criminals
your societal outcasts, yearning to live here for free
the generous refuge of a corrupt benefits system galore  (in return for their vote one day)
NO send the gangbangers, drug dealers and rapists back 
and shut the fucking door.

Doesn't that perfectly describe New York at its inception?

they at least vetted immigrants for being 'of good character' back in the day (when we REALLY needed immigration) instead of just throwing open the border to everyone and anyone like Biden did.

Now ICE is trying to clean up the mess by getting out those who are here and wanted for crimes. I don't get why some on the left are so keen on protecting criminals, gang members, rapists etc.  Their protests are more designed to sow chaos in genral and they are not blameless in the deaths of the two people (that they radicalized) at the hands of ICE

[THUNDERCLINT]

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

Kinda odd that it’s only Minnesota that has this chaotic issue with ICE.
Do you think it might have something to do with the state It’s Governor and other elected officials being investigated for massive fraud? 

You probably know more than most if that's true or not, not familiar with Minnesota politics, what I did find laughable is certain republican commenters suddenly deciding legally carrying a gun is provocative 

Billions been defrauded through fake somali business that receive government funding, like day care, a percentage of which seems to have then found it's way to democrat slush funds or democrat ngo (left wing domestic terrorist paramilitary organisations waging asymmetric warfare).

The Cam Higby infiltration of the domestic terrorist signal groups organising the paramilitary operations against the government has revealed some interesting bad actors, including it seems high profile names linked directly to Tampon Tim.

[,]

It’s quite sad, as an onlooker, to see military occupation of some American cities and the accompanying slide into a facist like authoritarianism. Quite something too to hear people being spun a narrative that is counter to what they have seen.

[Mr Anon]

It’s the blue cities that are the sanctuary cities, which is why we have this problem.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

Kinda odd that it’s only Minnesota that has this chaotic issue with ICE.
Do you think it might have something to do with the state It’s Governor and other elected officials being investigated for massive fraud? 

You probably know more than most if that's true or not, not familiar with Minnesota politics, what I did find laughable is certain republican commenters suddenly deciding legally carrying a gun is provocative 

[Mr Anon]

It’s the blue cities that are the sanctuary cities, which is why we have this problem.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

give me your illegal alien criminals
your societal outcasts, yearning to live here for free
the generous refuge of a corrupt benefits system galore  (in return for their vote one day)
NO send the gangbangers, drug dealers and rapists back 
and shut the fucking door.

Doesn't that perfectly describe New York at its inception?

[Nutsin]

can we have a UK politics thread... like separate?

Sure, start one.

[Nutsin]

can we have a UK politics thread... like separate?