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Posted: **18 Aug 2024, 01:31**

I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

Posted: **05 Dec 2024, 01:38**

I'm not into humiliating our managers in public ..never have been
.I actually feel for Loppy...it's just hasn't worked out..
But our owners/Board have form for letting things fester and eventually we turn all our frustrations out on the latest one.
ALL ABOUT MONEY

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 23:32**

Now that we've all seen how the season has panned out and how Teams have got on, how many points, realistically, do people think we should have right now?

And then also name how many of those games were entertaining/boring matches.

Interested to see where people think we should be points wise and how many of those games have been boring/entertaining to them..

Arsenal
Newcastle
Chelsea
Villa
Everton
Spurs
Palace
Fulham
Man City
Ipswich
Forest
Brentford
Man Utd
Leciester

2 Cup games against Premier League opposition

Bournemouth
Liverpool

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 23:16**

Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 16:10 Ron Eff

Your’s is a shit argument you mean. One bad transfer window that cost us 3 or 4 league places and your only answer is to fire the manager? A manager that has been giving you European football? We still finished with 52 points, let’s see how many we get under your master plan?
You have no idea what happened during the disastrous January window and have no idea who is to blame for what happened.

And to try and swerve full responsibility because they didn’t select the manager you wanted is even more disingenuous.
You wanted Moyes out at all costs, it was never conditional.

Do fuck off!

BTW you screaming little drama queen... below is the start of the 22/23 season were you screaming like a stuck pig that the idiot Moyes was a total fuck up....

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 22:48**

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 22:42
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 22:18
RootsRadical wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 21:43 He still gets until the New year from me.
Arteta took longer to to get Arsenal going, look at them now.
We aren't going to get relegated and many of our fans have become a laughing stock. We have some very winnable games coming up and you can't trust Sullivan to appoint the right manager so I'm hoping Loppy comes good.

I'm the same as you. I already factored in this being a dogshit write-off start to a new season, whoever took over from the previous mess and said as much after Moyes got the boot - For example 74 cunting goals conceded and that was with an ultra defensive mindset and game plan!

Also, there's been a concerted effort by many Moyes loving fans to never give him a proper chance from the start and time to turn it all around, instantly demanding the Football be great which was never realistic.

Unfortunately, with how much work that had to be done and dross that needed and still needs weeding out has always needed the season. I still recount what happened to Pochettino at Chelsea as a clear example of that. Hovering around this position whilst playing poorly in the table for much of the season, only to finish the season in 6th come the end qualifying for Europe. He needed all that time to figure out what works and what doesn't after Potter had made such a pigs ear of it (with help from Fat Frank) before him and there's fans who now want Potter in to sort us out!

I do get the frustrations and anger as we all desperately want what's best for the Club, but I'm afraid it was never going to be straightforward. A turn around in style and form within the 1st half of the season was never realistic and it needed time to sort it. I'm still prepared to give him that time but he may not be afforded that luxury that other manager's more fortunate seem to get instead.

I admire your faith and optimism MA, and I was in that camp early on, but he is not turning this around. By now he should know his best system, and he clearly doesn’t. He looks completely out of ideas when it’s not working out and just throws more players on. There is no style at all, even if I do like some of the one-two passing that we haven’t seen for some time. That’s just not enough. We are far, far too easy to score against. I’ve never seen a team so open.

Once you reach the point of boardroom discussion and the fans turning on you, the game is up, and rightly so. No point whatsoever in delaying the inevitable.

I agree with this. To turn it around now you have to go and have a run of 4 or 5 unbeaten, and win 2 or 3 of them.

The board meeting. Can surely only ask 3 questions:

1. Is there info coming out of the squad that they're 'close' and he deserves the run of games against Wolves, Bournemouth and Brighton? If so, what is the acceptable points total from that run?

2. Have they got someone else who has agreed in principle to take over that they have more faith in and who has convincingly explained how he'll get more out of the squad quickly.

3. Has Lopetegui presented a coherent plan for how he'll stop teams creating so many 'big chances' against us?

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 22:45**

RootsRadical wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 21:43 Arteta took longer to to get Arsenal going, look at them now.
We aren't going to get relegated and many of our fans have become a laughing stock. We have some very winnable games coming up and you can't trust Sullivan to appoint the right manager so I'm hoping Loppy comes good.

Arteta won them the FA Cup within 6 months?

We have had many winnable games already and lost them, which is why he is rightly under threat of tbeing sacked, as he isn't isn't showing any sign of being better than Moyes at his worst here.

Also, FUCKING LOL at claiming you can't trust sullivan to appoint the right man whilst trying to argue for standing by the bloke he appointed that is clearly shit.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 22:44**

Amorim was the one (most of us) wanted and had in our grasp only for Sullivan to fuck it up. I fucking hate that poison dwarf so much. Our loss is Man Utd's gain now.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 22:42**

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 22:18
RootsRadical wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 21:43 He still gets until the New year from me.
Arteta took longer to to get Arsenal going, look at them now.
We aren't going to get relegated and many of our fans have become a laughing stock. We have some very winnable games coming up and you can't trust Sullivan to appoint the right manager so I'm hoping Loppy comes good.

I'm the same as you. I already factored in this being a dogshit write-off start to a new season, whoever took over from the previous mess and said as much after Moyes got the boot - For example 74 cunting goals conceded and that was with an ultra defensive mindset and game plan!

Also, there's been a concerted effort by many Moyes loving fans to never give him a proper chance from the start and time to turn it all around, instantly demanding the Football be great which was never realistic.

Unfortunately, with how much work that had to be done and dross that needed and still needs weeding out has always needed the season. I still recount what happened to Pochettino at Chelsea as a clear example of that. Hovering around this position whilst playing poorly in the table for much of the season, only to finish the season in 6th come the end qualifying for Europe. He needed all that time to figure out what works and what doesn't after Potter had made such a pigs ear of it (with help from Fat Frank) before him and there's fans who now want Potter in to sort us out!

I do get the frustrations and anger as we all desperately want what's best for the Club, but I'm afraid it was never going to be straightforward. A turn around in style and form within the 1st half of the season was never realistic and it needed time to sort it. I'm still prepared to give him that time but he may not be afforded that luxury that other manager's more fortunate seem to get instead.

I admire your faith and optimism MA, and I was in that camp early on, but he is not turning this around. By now he should know his best system, and he clearly doesn’t. He looks completely out of ideas when it’s not working out and just throws more players on. There is no style at all, even if I do like some of the one-two passing that we haven’t seen for some time. That’s just not enough. We are far, far too easy to score against. I’ve never seen a team so open.

Once you reach the point of boardroom discussion and the fans turning on you, the game is up, and rightly so. No point whatsoever in delaying the inevitable.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 22:37**

I actually think the volume of 'good football' we've been playing has been increasing. But the problem is whatever he's coaching from a defensive standpoint is either ineffective, lost in translation and not implemented, or he doesn't know what to do.

If you look at recent games, we played well 'with the ball' second half Vs Newcastle andagainst Leicester. But the difference against Newcastle is the midfield were 'on it's and tigerish the whole game. Most games we look like we're at about 85%.

But as everyone knows, the defence was terrible last year and it's no better this year. We're giving away the same big chances now that we were against Villa on the opening day and he's simply not addressed it.

And that's what will be his downfall. A failure to get the defence structured and well organised. It's totally on him if he gets the boot....and only those with access behind the scenes will know if these things are being worked on. But he's just not getting the players to find effective performances out of possession.

Only he and the players know if that's because his tactics are bunk, or the players aren't following instructions...but when they lose it up the field, they certainly don't bust a gut to get back (the only guy who ever does, on occasion, is Paqueta).

I'd get rid but I'm not 100% against him staying if the players are telling the management that he's on the right track. There's also lots of rumours that Steidten is a divisive shyster, who is briefing to players against the manager.

Then there's the suggestion despite his shareholding Sullivan maintains a veto-vote as standing Chairman on all decisions.

So Lopetegui isn't up to it, or the players aren't up to Lopetegui. And Steidten is a cսnt with only faux influence. And Sullivan is an inept cսnt with far too much power.

So the manager may stay. The manager may go. A new guy may arrive. But everything will stay the same.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 22:18**

RootsRadical wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 21:43 He still gets until the New year from me.
Arteta took longer to to get Arsenal going, look at them now.
We aren't going to get relegated and many of our fans have become a laughing stock. We have some very winnable games coming up and you can't trust Sullivan to appoint the right manager so I'm hoping Loppy comes good.

I'm the same as you. I already factored in this being a dogshit write-off start to a new season, whoever took over from the previous mess and said as much after Moyes got the boot - For example 74 cunting goals conceded and that was with an ultra defensive mindset and game plan!

Also, there's been a concerted effort by many Moyes loving fans to never give him a proper chance from the start and time to turn it all around, instantly demanding the Football be great which was never realistic.

Unfortunately, with how much work that had to be done and dross that needed and still needs weeding out has always needed the season. I still recount what happened to Pochettino at Chelsea as a clear example of that. Hovering around this position whilst playing poorly in the table for much of the season, only to finish the season in 6th come the end qualifying for Europe. He needed all that time to figure out what works and what doesn't after Potter had made such a pigs ear of it (with help from Fat Frank) before him and there's fans who now want Potter in to sort us out!

I do get the frustrations and anger as we all desperately want what's best for the Club, but I'm afraid it was never going to be straightforward. A turn around in style and form within the 1st half of the season was never realistic and it needed time to sort it. I'm still prepared to give him that time but he may not be afforded that luxury that other manager's more fortunate seem to get instead.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 21:50**

BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 20:04
Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 14:04 Here they are, the fuckwits biting on my previous post.

we had a good first half last year and we’re doing well in the league at Christmas, things went down hill last year after the Jan window which you all decided Moyes was to blame.
no evidence though just whispers of what you’ve heard from some other fuckwit.

Say what you want about Moyes but he had us going on European runs which is a far cry from where we are now.

What we have all learned is that it was a big fucking mistake and we are a lot worse off for it.

Now we are stuck with this moron in charge who doesn’t have a fucking clue.

what a shit show Moyes is twice the manager J Lo will ever be even on his worse day.

Now you are all coming on here trying to hide the egg on your face, you bunch of retarded fuckwits. With your repetitive tired same old bullshit on why Moyes had to go for a far worse option. Now we all have to watch the unbaterable garbage that we’ve become. Not sure what’s worse reading you fuckwits spout bollox every week or watch this pathetic team under this clueless manager try to string a few passes together.

Ebery last one of you has been exposed for the clueless fuckwits you are. Get a clue and shut the fuck up you boring, repetitive morons! You were all dead fucking wrong!

Conflating the consequences of Moyes' departure and Lopetegui's arrival is the work of morons and cunts like Chris Sutton... and Nutsack, of course, the cretin

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 21:43**

He still gets until the New year from me.
Arteta took longer to to get Arsenal going, look at them now.
We aren't going to get relegated and many of our fans have become a laughing stock. We have some very winnable games coming up and you can't trust Sullivan to appoint the right manager so I'm hoping Loppy comes good.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 21:24**

Looks like us, Wolves & Southampton all might be in the market for new managers very soon.

Maybe Wolves might like Lopetegui back?

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 20:45**

I see Hammers chat have a YT video and reckon the board are meeting on Friday to decide Lopis future? Why Friday though, surely this meeting should have taken place the morning after the Leicester game, granted they may not have been all able to meet in the same room but in this day and age of video calls and conferencing surely, they should and could have done this a bit more urgently.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 20:04**

Nutsin wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 14:04 Here they are, the fuckwits biting on my previous post.

we had a good first half last year and we’re doing well in the league at Christmas, things went down hill last year after the Jan window which you all decided Moyes was to blame.
no evidence though just whispers of what you’ve heard from some other fuckwit.

Say what you want about Moyes but he had us going on European runs which is a far cry from where we are now.

What we have all learned is that it was a big fucking mistake and we are a lot worse off for it.

Now we are stuck with this moron in charge who doesn’t have a fucking clue.

what a shit show Moyes is twice the manager J Lo will ever be even on his worse day.

Now you are all coming on here trying to hide the egg on your face, you bunch of retarded fuckwits. With your repetitive tired same old bullshit on why Moyes had to go for a far worse option. Now we all have to watch the unbaterable garbage that we’ve become. Not sure what’s worse reading you fuckwits spout bollox every week or watch this pathetic team under this clueless manager try to string a few passes together.

Ebery last one of you has been exposed for the clueless fuckwits you are. Get a clue and shut the fuck up you boring, repetitive morons! You were all dead fucking wrong!

Jesus Nutsack calm down dear you'll have a heart attack .. you are way out of control... you clearly do not watch the games if anything our passing and ball retention is massively improved so you are as usual factually incorrect.

As everyone has stated Moyes's days are over stop harping on about it... hes not coming back! His record in the league over the last 2 season was terrible then average to terrible his win % was around 21% over the last 19 games we conceded a record amount of goals... he was done!

Nobody on this site said lets get rid of Moyes and replace him with Lopetegui... we just knew that to carry on with that dinosaur with his mismanagement of the squad and youth players was wrong and he would not or could not improve this squad.. 6 months on yes we seem to be in a similar position results wise albeit with a manger that at least tries to get the team playing some sort of possession based passing style, the problem remains that the squad isnt up to it we are short of a decent striker and a box to box midfielder and pace is short all across the middle, oh and he doesn't have a magic wand...

Generally we are not fuckwits you however appear to have a weird obsession with Moyes that is bordering on psychotic.... he wasnt the answer 12 months ago and he isn't the answer now so why keep banging on about him?

Lopetegui will succeed or fail but it hasnt nothing to do with getting rid of Moyes because he had to go....

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 18:26**

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 18:07
Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 17:28 Balague knows his onions, have no doubt about that. Certainly more so than anyone on here.

He makes some salient points. Maybe worth giving Lop a proper chance after all ?

Laughable.

Totally understandable when just attention seeking..

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 18:07**

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 17:28 Balague knows his onions, have no doubt about that. Certainly more so than anyone on here.

He makes some salient points. Maybe worth giving Lop a proper chance after all ?

Laughable.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 18:04**

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 16:46 He's a bang average Premier League centre back.

£40m was always too much. Giving him a 7 (SEVEN) year contract is mental.

He’s not even average imo. He’s a nothing player. A complete passenger. He was never a leading CB that Lopetegui could build a team around.

Makes me fucking sick how much we have spent on CB’s in the last 5 years. It’s become as embarrassing as out Striker recruitment.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 17:30**

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 17:28 Balague knows his onions, have no doubt about that. Certainly more so than anyone on here.

He makes some salient points. Maybe worth giving Lop a proper chance after all ?

Welcome back faux bare.
Somewhere in Britain, a village is missing its idiot.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 17:28**

Balague knows his onions, have no doubt about that. Certainly more so than anyone on here.

He makes some salient points. Maybe worth giving Lop a proper chance after all ?

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 17:02**

goose wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 16:55
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 16:50 LOL

haha pleeeeeeease don't sack my mate.

It's a completely ridiculous statement/list of excuses for him to make at this point.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 16:59**

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 16:50 LOL

William Bellend is an embarrassment to sports journalism. Which is itself an embarrassment to real journalism.

He genuinely believes his own hype and now seems to think he's a manager-in-waiting (as that ludicrous post shows). He's embedded so far up Lopetegui's arsehole that surgeons will find him somewhere around the larynx. Not an exaggeration: your average West Ham fans knows more than that fella. Yet he's taking a pop at many of our fans.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 16:57**

goose wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 16:55
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 16:50 LOL

haha pleeeeeeease don't sack my mate.

Yeah, it reeks of that.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 16:55**

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 16:50 LOL

haha pleeeeeeease don't sack my mate.

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 16:53**

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑04 Dec 2024, 16:46 He's a bang average Premier League centre back.

£40m was always too much. Giving him a 7 (SEVEN) year contract is mental.

The seven-year contract is our shit, two-bob experiment with a Chelsea-style FFP wangle isn't it? Wonder how that will work out?!

Posted: **04 Dec 2024, 16:50**

LOL

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