NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[Joe C]

Jimmy G to the Raiders. Sam Darnold to the 49ers (ha ha ha ha)

[El Scorchio]

Aaron Rodgers has apparently informed the Packers and the Jets that he plans to retire.

[Far Cough]

Yeah Alan Page at DT Jim Marshall at DE Carl Eller at DE Gary Larsen at DT

[Takashi Miike]

"grant was a legend, purple people eaters"

[Far Cough]

"You may or may not have heard of him but Bud Grant who died on Saturday the 11th of March the most successful head coach in Vikings history taking them to four Super Bowls. Before coaching the Vikings, he was the head coach of Winnipeg for ten seasons, winning the Grey Cup four times. and the fifth most successful professional football coach overall with a combined 286 wins in the NFL and CFL. RIP"

[zebthecat]

Looks like my Dolphins are all in now. Jalen Ramsey and Xavien Howard a very good pair of corners. We have to make a decisoin about running backs. Not sure what the cap space is like but Wilson and Mostert are going to be expensive. Did read that Mike Gesicki might be let go. So not sure where that leaves us tight end. Some team can certainly use him as a giant slot receiver. Looks like Tua is the man for sure.

[Nutsin]

"Jalen Ramsey to the Dolphins for a 3rd round pick. Rumors swirling that Matthew Stafford is on the trade block""¶.. Rams look like they are rebuilding. They already released Floyd their pass rusher. Deandre Hopkins is on the market too. Thielen was released by the Vikes, he was always a threat. Some good players to be had."

[southbankbornnbred]

You joke - but if Broadway threw his shirt back on I think he'd get a game. He's not much older than Rodgers - and he doesn't need a 'balloon' payment!

[Far Cough]

"Get Broadway Joe out of retirement, I'm sure he could still do a job oh and while you're there get the Sack Exchange out of retirement as well ;-)"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Sauce, Garrett Wilson and others are going to need bigger contracts in the not-too-distant future - and tying so much of the Jets' financial future to a 39 year-old QB, leaving almost no cap space, would be proper mad. Douglas needs to negotiate hard to leave some cap flexibility. Otherwise, we'll eventually end up trading away good players like we did with Adams etc. This all comes back to the Jets' historical failure to identify and develop good quarterbacks out of the draft. We must be the worst team in the league for this."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Just seen what the financial deal for Rodgers might look like, too. With that in mind, I wouldn't trade for him. This so-called 'balloon' payment of $54m that he is (currently) due from Green Bay is nuts. If I'm the Jets, there's no way I'm lumping that, plus his enormous salary and trade picks, on a 39 year-old. He's a great QB. But come on. The Jets need to negotiate hard on that. If we end up potentially taking all of that hit, then walk and take Jimmy G. Sometimes you just have to see sense on the numbers."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Yep, looks like the Panthers have traded up to take Bryce Young at QB. They've over-spent - but everybody overspends when trading for the #1 pick. Young is a good QB. Remains to be seen if he is #1 material. It's a decent deal for the Bears and I'd have done the same thing in their position. They can put a lot of weapons around Fields now."

[Takashi Miike]

"""there's a deal to be made with chicago for that number one pick"" looks like Carolina have pulled the trigger, the No1 overall pick for.............. Pick 9 Pick 61 1st Rd Pick in 2024 2nd Rd Pick in 2025 + DJ Moore"

[El Scorchio]

"Fully agree. JG or one of SF's quarterbacks are all a shout there are plenty of other options. It does sound like a decision very much driven by the owner rather than the actual football staff at the club. Sounds eerily similar to West Ham really, doesn't it! it would be a shame to fuck up a team finally on the right trajectory just out of impatience or a perceived quick fix effort to appease fans."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Yeah, I would prefer that we didn't trade for Rodgers. But there's little doubting that, if we did, it is a big upgrade at QB - even through he is 39 years-old. That's how bad we have been at QB for so long! It does feel weird that Joe Douglas and Rob Saleh - who have meticulously built the team so far, would then go 'shit or bust' - which is what it would be with Rodgers (although they may not be demanding a Super Bowl - just the play-offs because even that has been 13 years and counting). Douglas and Saleh are details men, who plan pretty much everything. Most, but not all, of their big calls have gone right in the last two years - Wilson at QB being the big failure. You're right to say that a failure with Rodgers, by giving away picks and cap space, would be the end of them. Even if that failure was him getting injured - which is a big risk at his age. So throwing it all in on 39 year-old Rodgers seems odd for them. I wonder how much of this is really being driven by Woody and the Johnsons? I notice that both Woody and Chris Johnson have been to see Rodgers. My gut feeling is that this might be Woody's attempt to finally win over the hyper-critical fans in New York. So far, the Johnson family legacy has been exceptionally poor and fans want rid of them. They don't understand the game, or the team's fans, and they probably just see Rodgers and think: play-offs. They might even be right. But what's the price? It doesn't feel very Douglas/Saleh - unless they both feel they can't get a better QB elsewhere (trade or draft). We have a good young roster, packed with potential (Sauce, Johnson, Williams, Garrett Wilson, Elijah Moore, Ball etc). All meticulously scouted (for once) by the GM and HC. But they may not be ready, after one or two seasons, to step up to the highest level. Personally, I'd have gone for Jimmy G, the new OC, lit a fire up Zach Wilson's backside and carried on building. But it looks as though the owners are pinning everything on Rodgers being Gotham's messiah."

[El Scorchio]

"I think so as well. He's going to want to be QB, OC, HC and GM, call all the shots, and will likely cause problems if he doesn't get his way with everything. He's basically sulked his way out of GB. I agree there's a lot more value to be had in trading for someone else or looking to use draft picks/the draft. I don't think the Jets are ready to be in win now mode, especially in a tough division where there will be a lot of competition and indeed a tough conference where there's a lot of competition."

[Takashi Miike]

"that will probably see the end of saleh, rodgers comes a cross as very controlling and self centered. I don't doubt he still has a bit left, but you would have been better off trading away multiple picks to move up for bryce young. there's a deal to be made with chicago for that number one pick and I don't see them going QB, unless Fields is traded in the next few weeks"

[El Scorchio]

"southbankbornnbred 6:41 Well that's true! But it's very risky. If this doesn't pay off basically with a superbowl win, it's just going to push the team into cap hell and a clear out and yet more rebuilding. He's probably going to make certain demands upon the management and who they recruit in FA/draft. If Rodgers was the final piece to get you over the top, then yes, but I'm not sure he is at this point. But who knows! It'll be interesting to see what happens. It would make an already competitive and exciting looking division that little bit more so- especially if Brady goes to the Dolphins as well."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Rodgers' past links with our new offensive co-ordinator, Nate Hackett, should help a bit, too. Rodgers will be more familiar with the new offensive system than any of the current squad. I guess it's better that the QB knows what he's doing - even if he is now 148 years-old! While it wouldn't have been my choice, there's part of me that wants to see Garrett Wilson and Elijah Moore link up with Rodgers. Potentially, that is nuts. He won't lack for targets."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Most things do end badly for the Jets. So, in one sense, there's not a lot to lose! We haven't been to the play-offs since 2010. It's the longest play off drought in an NFL obsessed with parity. And quarterback was THE Achilles heel for us last season when Wilson fell off a cliff. I'd rather we went for Jimmy G or somebody less expensive than 39-year-old Rodgers, and kept slowly building under Saleh - who made steady improvements as head coach throughout last season. The fans generally have confidence in Saleh now, which was not the case in his first year, because he oversaw a much-needed improvement in the defense. But it looks like the owners and Saleh are keen on Rodgers having failed to land Carr (gone to Norlunz). I just hope we don't give up too much for him. Depending on whether he sticks around as QB2, Rodgers' influence might also help Wilson. His problem seems to be his attitude, which may now change. Who knows? I'd prefer we didn't land Rodgers. But if we're going to do it, then I guess we have to go all in...it's shit or bust at that point...see you in the play-offs or when Rodgers' season ends in injury..."

[El Scorchio]

Signing Rodgers will end badly for the Jets.

[Far Cough]

"Shouldn't unretire numbers no matter what Broadway Joe says. There was talk of unretiring Kirby Puckett's number because of his personal and legal issues, thank God they didn't the bloke was a genius with the bat and in the field"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Btw, if Rodgers signs for the Jets the team is going to 'unretire' (!) Joe Namath's #12 shirt number. Never thought I'd see that. Apparently, Namath himself has said it's OK."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Jets look like they're going ""shit or bust"" on a deal for Rodgers. I was previously bought into Saleh's ""gradual build"" approach, which certainly showed signs of success last season (especially on defense). But it looks like the top brass - and perhaps Saleh himself - feel like the team is already in shape for a now-or-never run at the AFC East and the play-offs. So they may trade away some picks for the win-now approach with Rodgers. Let's face it, the Jets have tried the softly-softly build approach before now (Herm, Rex, Bowles, HeadGase). And it often eneded in failure. I actually thought Saleh would get it right that way. But he's seemingly going for Mangina's shit or bust, when we landed an ageing Favre. It didn't end well back then (finished 9-7 but missed the play-offs after losing several in a row at the end, when Favre's arm gave up). Hope this is different. Rodgers in a Jets shirt. Fucking hell!"

[El Scorchio]

And surprise surprise there are noises that Brady might unretire again... Never saw that one coming.