Anxiety/depression

[Tomshardware]

"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

[Bungo]

"Just want to clarify how and when anti-depressants should be used, speaking as an employee of ‘Big Pharma’ who has been involved with the development and distribution of several ADs in the last 25+ years, and having spoken to countless doctors about how they use them. Firstly, they should not be viewed as a ‘solution’ to depression. They are really the equivalent of putting a sticking plaster on a cut, but this is not always made clear to the patient. If a doctor has a depressed patient in front of them, they will often prescribe an AD, as this is what the doctor is able to do there and then that is most likely to have the most immediate impact on reducing the worst symptoms (hopefully within a couple of weeks). Many patients also feel that to leave a consultation without a prescription is to somehow be short changed which leads many doctors to feel more pressure to prescribe. The doctor should then be seeking out other ways to help the patient over the medium/long term with non-pharmacological therapies. Unfortunately, these tend to be less available and often have long waits. Patient adherence to these can be quite variable too as many expect a quick fix which these are not. For years pharma gave doctors advice about helping patients get off ADs, but as with many medications, many patients stay on them for too long either because they have developed a reliance on them, a lack of timely follow up with the doctor or a lack of availability of alternative therapies. Many have talked of the ‘deadening’ of all other emotions which is one of the reasons they should only be used for a fairly short time, and the underlying issues addressed. Hope that’s useful."

[whu4eva]

Sniper 12:20 Tue Sep 15 Re: Anxiety/depression Could not have said it better... It's important to 'feel' emotions and know when you are happy / sad / angry... Dealing / processing / reflecting alone is the hardest time where ultimately it can be hard

[Sniper]

"I found ADs just made me feel like my head was ‘humming’ and foggy all the time, I couldn’t focus on anything but at the same time would sort of zone out constantly. I really struggled with them, and I have no idea whether they actually made the difference they were meant to My main frustration with mental health at the moment is that, once people know you’ve suffered, if you’re upset or angry or downbeat, it’s immediately attributed to that - when in fact you can suffer from depression but still be legitimately annoyed or affected by something in exactly the same way as someone who doesn’t suffer is. But it gets attributed to a ‘down day’ or a ‘are you struggling’ comment, and I found that, on ADs, I would sometimes find it hard to reconcile whether I was genuinely feeling that way or if it was me just being a bit mental. Since coming off them, I feel much more in tune with when I am struggling and what I need to do and when I am just pissed off because our owners are cunts, or because work is being shit or because a shovel fell down in the garage and landed on my foot or because in dropped my phone and smashed the screen - and that it’s actually fine to be irritated by any of those things and that has nothing to do with you not being able to handle things"

[side effect]

I've gone back up to 50mg trip from 10mg and while I'm waiting fro it to kick in the doc gave me 28 5mg diaz and 28 mg zoppys so I'm starting to feel almost normal now.

[BubblesCyprus]

Doc prescribed AD's after Mrs BC went up to the pearly gates over 10 years ago and taking them ever since.only major downside is stop taking them for a week or so and like a junkie without a fix. Never did non prescribed drugs so ignorant of drug addiction but without realising am addicted to them.

[Westham67]

I did the same with antipsychotics which I was taking for 18 months. I had to wean myself off of them and I had broken sleep for months that was June 17 I was reluctant to take antidepressants about this time last year. I took 4 in December 19 and had pains around my liver. I googled conflicts with the meds I was taking and I read do not take with any meds you are taking for heart and so had stop Always check for any conflict with any medication you are given yourself via google as doctors do not have time to check

[whu4eva]

Hardest thing I found about the chemical option is that it made me emotionally numb... both good and bad emotions It stopped the lows but also the highs. It was hard to feel angry / frustrated / happy or excited. That's why I had to get off them I did it for 3/4/5 months and tapered off and was able to know warning signs / when I needed to immerse myself around friends / family

[Boycie]

"Billy Blagg 1:30 Thu Sep 3 B I resisted on the same basis thinking I was able to ""tough it out"". I gave in and after about 2 or 3 weeks felt completely different. The sick dark feeling was gone and I was able to get back on track. I then came off after about 6 months. That was 7 yrs ago but everything going on at the moment means I am back on them."

[Billy Blagg]

"I've been going through it since I lost Lady B just over two years ago. I've tried everything bar the chemical solution which I'm reluctant to do as I feel I should be able to 'cope' and I worry that I may never come off them if they work. In answer to your question, sadly NO."

[normannomates]

In 200 yrs time I will be defrosted and reform WHO

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Boycie 10:59 Sun Aug 30 ""Yes mate but usually the light is some bastard with a lamp bringing you more work! ""... ...which generally implies that you did a good job - or the best he could expect - the last time around."

[Boycie]

Westham67 2:35 Sat Aug 29 Yes mate but usually the light is some bastard with a lamp bringing you more work!

[CryBabies]

"I'm through the worst of it. Alcohol helped me - it was my self harm treatment. Unfortunately, it also ruined me. Thinking of positives won't be easy at this moment, but even tiny ones will help."

[Westham67]

Boycie. I have been there mate with the lost it all thing. I fully understand how you feel. But there is light at the end of the tunnel look at every day as getting closer to that light and you are every day that passes separates you from the past and look forward not backward

[Westham67]

Boycie. I have been there mate with the lost it all thing. I fully understand how you feel. But there is light at the end of the tunnel look at every day as getting closer to that light and you are every day that passes separates you from the past and look forward not backward

[Boycie]

"hope to god Roberto never plays for us again. Look for the things that make you happy and grab hold of them for as long as you can. Even if it is for a minute or two a day. Those moments get longer and longer. Get to sleep by 11 pm no lights and wake up at a decent time and get out in daylight first thing. It seriously helps. Walk around get exercise, we were made to keep on the move about 10-12km a day, it helps your mood seriously."

[Boycie]

BUT there is light at the end of the tunnel. I have a lot to be grateful for. Things do get better you just have to keep looking out for beautiful things and

[Boycie]

I wouldnt recommend either. I was diagnosed in my 40's after having symptoms since 12/13yrs old. Been off meds for years but going back on as I've hit the titwobbles again. I recognise my symptoms and manage them but everything thats happening at the moment is a bit too much. I've been beaten this time nothing like watching your life's work go down the toilet.

[Willtell]

Hope it all goes well for you Block...

[Block]

"Cheers, everyone! Alfs, From the scans looks as if the baby has inherited my head size...Poor wife...."

[Westham67]

Block 12:09 Fri Aug 21 Congats mate

[normannomates]

Bolt 11.40 Congratulations to you both

[alfs barnet]

"When you say ""trying for 3 years"" do you mean it took you 3 years to persuade the mrs to push something that has a fair chance of inheriting your massive head out of her chuff?"

[arsegrapes]

"Congrats Bolty, will be a chip off the old block!"

[Darlo Debs]

Congrats Block