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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 21:34
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 21:21
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 21:12
goose wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:48
 
There is no sharia law in this country so how can you ban it?
Why do you need to shut down councils that arent recognised in law and have no powers? 

Its like asking to shut down bingo at the old people’s home.
 
What do the councils do? 
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  • Sharia Councils provide rulings based on Islamic law (Sharia) for Muslims seeking guidance on various aspects of their lives, especially family and marriage matters. 
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Shut them down whatever you call them. But to sit there and say they don’t preach Sharia law is too stupid to take seriously. Nobody is that gullible. Not even you Goose. There is a reason why they call them “Sharia councils” I think you’ll find the word Sharia is a bit of a giveaway.
So people freely chose to attend a council which has no legal powers, and you want to shut it down? The people who attend do so by choice, and abide by the rulings through free choice. Everything they do sits within the boundaries of U.K. laws.

Shall we shut down the churches as well? My local Catholic Church does marriage guidance sessions.

You bang on about free speech but want to takeaway freedom of religious worship?
 
 
Yea shut them down Goose, glad you finally got it.


To compare Sharia law to any form of religion is a bit silly don’t you think?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 21:34
by XKhammer
I predicted months ago that Trump and Mong Musk would eventually fall out as two massive egos were odds on to clash 
Trump goes about things the wrong way except his immigration policy which is spot 
Musk is a wrong un and junkie,can't stand him 

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 21:31
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:50
Lee Trundle" wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:47 Well this has got mighty interesting.

 
Must admit the YouTube clip you posted  was hilarious! I’m still laughing!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 21:21
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 21:12
goose wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:48
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:41
By shutting down the Sharia councils for a start numbnuts!
 
There is no sharia law in this country so how can you ban it?
Why do you need to shut down councils that arent recognised in law and have no powers? 

Its like asking to shut down bingo at the old people’s home.
 
What do the councils do? 
  •  
  • Sharia Councils provide rulings based on Islamic law (Sharia) for Muslims seeking guidance on various aspects of their lives, especially family and marriage matters. 
  •  
Shut them down whatever you call them. But to sit there and say they don’t preach Sharia law is too stupid to take seriously. Nobody is that gullible. Not even you Goose. There is a reason why they call them “Sharia councils” I think you’ll find the word Sharia is a bit of a giveaway.
So people freely chose to attend a council which has no legal powers, and you want to shut it down? The people who attend do so by choice, and abide by the rulings through free choice. Everything they do sits within the boundaries of U.K. laws.

Shall we shut down the churches as well? My local Catholic Church does marriage guidance sessions.

You bang on about free speech but want to takeaway freedom of religious worship?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 21:12
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:48
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:41
goose wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 19:00
How would they ban sharia law then?
By shutting down the Sharia councils for a start numbnuts!
 
There is no sharia law in this country so how can you ban it?
Why do you need to shut down councils that arent recognised in law and have no powers? 

Its like asking to shut down bingo at the old people’s home.
 
 
What do the councils do? 
  •  
  • Sharia Councils provide rulings based on Islamic law (Sharia) for Muslims seeking guidance on various aspects of their lives, especially family and marriage matters. 
  •  
Shut them down whatever you call them. But to sit there and say they don’t preach Sharia law is too stupid to take seriously. Nobody is that gullible. Not even you Goose. There is a reason why they call them “Sharia councils” I think you’ll find the word Sharia is a bit of a giveaway.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 21:09
by Lee Trundle
Cabbige Savage" wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:54 Ellen Musk and Trump save the world but evn Manilli Vanilli broke up.
Indeed.

This is more gripping than Den and Angie.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 20:54
by Cabbige Savage
Ellen Musk and Trump save the world but evn Manilli Vanilli broke up.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 20:50
by goose
Lee Trundle" wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:47 Well this has got mighty interesting.

 
 

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 20:48
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:41
goose wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 19:00
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 18:58 I’m reading reports that some in the UK want to ban the Burqa. 

How about Sharia law and Halal slaughter are they up for a banning debate too or is everyone too shit scared to mention it in front of Starmer?
How would they ban sharia law then?
By shutting down the Sharia councils for a start numbnuts!
 
 
There is no sharia law in this country so how can you ban it?
Why do you need to shut down councils that arent recognised in law and have no powers? 

Its like asking to shut down bingo at the old people’s home.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 20:47
by Lee Trundle
Well this has got mighty interesting.


Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 20:44
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 20:34 Trump is so thin skinned he cannot stand criticism.
Criticise me and I’ll terminate your government contracts, what happened to free speech?
Yeah he is so thin skinned his ear bleeds when a bullet hits it ffs!

Can you imagine the outrage from the left if Trump had left in the EV credits in the bill. They’d be screaming hysterically about Trump looking out for his buddies.

Guess the thick cunts can’t accuse him of that any more.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 20:41
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 19:00
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 18:58 I’m reading reports that some in the UK want to ban the Burqa. 

How about Sharia law and Halal slaughter are they up for a banning debate too or is everyone too shit scared to mention it in front of Starmer?
How would they ban sharia law then?
By shutting down the Sharia councils for a start numbnuts!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 20:34
by goose
Trump is so thin skinned he cannot stand criticism.
Criticise me and I’ll terminate your government contracts, what happened to free speech?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 20:08
by Lee Trundle
It was always on the cards.

Those purple haired mental car scratchers are in a bit of a quandary now, I guess.

How are you feeling about it, One Sunny They?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 20:00
by goose
Trump & Musk appear to have fallen out in spectacular fashion.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 19:00
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 18:58 I’m reading reports that some in the UK want to ban the Burqa. 

How about Sharia law and Halal slaughter are they up for a banning debate too or is everyone too shit scared to mention it in front of Starmer?
How would they ban sharia law then?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 18:58
by Nutsin
I’m reading reports that some in the UK want to ban the Burqa. 

How about Sharia law and Halal slaughter are they up for a banning debate too or is everyone too shit scared to mention it in front of Starmer?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 18:02
by Massive Attack
Sounds like a good idea to rebuild an already levelled plot of land ready to be heavily invested in so to provide jobs etc to a population crying out for it. What a horrendous idea as part of a solution to try and improve lives going forward.

That said that's not at all in Hamas vested interests who only want to preserve the status quote of control on the area as the civvies continue to meekily suffer under them used as their pawns in their war games.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 17:52
by XKhammer
BRANDED wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 15:39 Trump is not in the BUSINESS of war. He'd rather build a hotel in Iraq than attack it. He'd rather turn Gaza into be posh riviera than a flattened war zone. He'd prefer to sell some stuff to the Russians than be in a proxy war wasting time, money and lives. 
This isn't exactly a difficult position to take.
It's an insane position especially thinking Gaza is a potential riviera strip

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 17:45
by Massive Attack
He'll be respectful to the King etc but he really doesn't give a fuck with regards to the left and can see him embarrassing Starmer at some after dinner speech, that see's Starmers position diminished by bringing up some home truths about freedom of speech. Vance has already given a little hors d'oeuvre of that in Europe already. Could even say something along the lines of "I hope this doesn't get me locked up with what I'm about to say.. " before going in to one. He knows Starmers a little bitch who will just take it as well.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 17:31
by Nutsin
Massive Attack" wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 17:06
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 16:42
, wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 15:45 MA, you have an interesting view about Trump. He does not seem to worry too much about Russia gaining  permanent advantage from military invasion rather as he does little or nothing the curb the over zealous actions of the IDF in Gaza. 

Trump is hardly a pacifist and though he does not want to waste American lives in military action he is, and has, sent his forces to take action where he thinks it’s necessary.

What would make a pleasant change would be to see him, and Vance, face to face with a dictator or two taking them to task instead of trying to bully representatives of democracies.

I was also disappointed in how Trump allowed Steimsr to lie to his face in the Oval Office about the UK having freedom of speech. Would have loved to see him shut Steimar up and expose him right there in front of the world like he did to the South African President.
 
Don't rule that out when he comes over on the state visit. Would be prime time to do it..
We can hope! It’s warranted.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 17:06
by Massive Attack
Nutsin wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 16:42
, wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 15:45 MA, you have an interesting view about Trump. He does not seem to worry too much about Russia gaining  permanent advantage from military invasion rather as he does little or nothing the curb the over zealous actions of the IDF in Gaza. 

Trump is hardly a pacifist and though he does not want to waste American lives in military action he is, and has, sent his forces to take action where he thinks it’s necessary.

What would make a pleasant change would be to see him, and Vance, face to face with a dictator or two taking them to task instead of trying to bully representatives of democracies.

I was also disappointed in how Trump allowed Steimsr to lie to his face in the Oval Office about the UK having freedom of speech. Would have loved to see him shut Steimar up and expose him right there in front of the world like he did to the South African President.
 
Don't rule that out when he comes over on the state visit. Would be prime time to do it..

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 16:47
by ,
Onebilly, I have not contested the result of Trump’s win in 2024 and as far as I’m concerned the results of the elections in 2016, 2020 and 2024 were all legal and above board. Though it is worthy of comment that Trump lost the popular vote in 2016 but won the electoral college vote clearly.

You, billy, have in answer to me today divided up the American electorate as the winning majority being terrified of the alternative and the losing minority as being stupid.

I have not suggested re running any of the American Presidential elections though strangely enough there are people in America, and one or two on here, who think that Trump had the 2020 election stolen from him.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 16:42
by Nutsin
, wrote: 05 Jun 2025, 15:45 MA, you have an interesting view about Trump. He does not seem to worry too much about Russia gaining  permanent advantage from military invasion rather as he does little or nothing the curb the over zealous actions of the IDF in Gaza. 

Trump is hardly a pacifist and though he does not want to waste American lives in military action he is, and has, sent his forces to take action where he thinks it’s necessary.

What would make a pleasant change would be to see him, and Vance, face to face with a dictator or two taking them to task instead of trying to bully representatives of democracies.
 
 
Take dictators to task, what like a trade war with China?

OR how about sanctions on Venezuela? 

Two examples of Trump standing up against dictators.


He stayed away from how the Romania and its corrupt election officials/ dictators cheated the electorate out of their vote

And how about France and their efforts to cheat the electorate from voting for their candidate?

I was also disappointed in how Trump allowed Steimsr to lie to his face in the Oval Office about the UK having freedom of speech. Would have loved to see him shut Steimar up and expose him right there in front of the world like he did to the South African President.


Id say the EU has more to answer for when it comes to standing up for democracy .

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 16:31
by only1billybonds
Comma.

Maybe they should have cancelled the last presidential election and re ran it. And had Trump won again, they could have binned that result iff and had another go. In future, all election results should be ignored until you and your ilk get the desired result.

2016 ringing any bells for anyone?