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"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

"As a nation, we don't really treat our ex-servicemen with the respect they deserve. Sadly it's just another facet of our authorities not seeming to want to grasp the whole mental issue area. I strongly suspect that the main reason for continually ignoring it is because the cost of treatment is now likely to be many times what has been saved by brushing it under the carpet and pretending it is not a problem. Continued public suffering is a price they're quite prepared to pay for not having a big bill turn up on their watch."

All this talk of ex forces lads becoming depressed and suicidal makes me fear for my son's future. Horrible reading all that.

Thanks Zeb. Googled it. 5/5 majority of reviews. Gonna give it a read.

"Cut and Paste. This was from a real close Army mate , had two kids but a break up and losing access to kids fucked him up. He was a Sergeant tough as nails. ""A dark period. I stabbed myself in the leg with a big fuck off kitchen knife once, I used broken glass to cut my wrist, then run off and hid in the bushes and hoped I'd bleed to death. But, as with the OD, it was all just crying out for help, but I know exactly how it becomes all consuming, and it seems there's no way it's ever going to end. Before I'd suffered, I'd heard people talk about depression, and think ""man the fuck up u cսnt"" but now I know, I've nothing but understanding and I suppose for want of a better word, sympathy. I look back at it all and wonder how I pulled thru, but I did. You can too. The only thing is what worked for me may not be for you, you need to work that out for yourself?"" Message was 2 years ago when I was bad in Madrid and needed to visit my Mum and Who stepped in. He took his life last year. Just re reading our correspondence. The man had served everywhere many times. His old man was the SAS fella who caught fire on the embassy siege in London years ago. Left 2 kids. Just wanted , as I've witnessed here that even the toughest nuts get lost or fall off the rails and not always drug related or booze. He was clean SAS fit fella. Simply breakdown of a relationship and less time with his kids."

Thanks Ridik Sometimes you think that a rant will help and be cathartic. It doesn't and it isn't of course. Hiding is better.

Zeb This explains so much about you and your posts God bless you.

I'd recommend reading Reasons to stay alive by Matt Haig. So much of it was common to my experience it was ridiculous. Fantastic book.

Desperate times Tom ag ag ag

"I stupidly cut and pasted that link. üòÜ Good post peckham, agree about getting other people's stories. Knowing you're not alone is a help."

Sorry for the anti climax Riddle I will try not get you hopes up next time

"67, thx but I can't get anything on that link? *puts away Kleenex*"

"Depression is one big cսnt that at times it unexplainable to others who see someone articulating themselves ok and on the surface looking fine. That is why this thread has been good, to be able to relate to others, see how others perceive it, advice from those who have experience of helping others, and for those who have shared their dark moments of family who have took their lives. Its drumming it into my head the heartache I would cause my family if push came to shove. A thread with empathy and constructive opinions. FMOB Hammers United despite the downers in life chucked at us."

J.Riddle 7:20 Tue Feb 11 https://www.lostoldbird.portsmourth.co

J.Riddle 7:20 Tue Feb 11 https://www.lostoldbird.portsmourth.co

Some old lady was lost in Portsmouth. Link please.

"Most of the depressed people I know are pretty resentful and cynical All of 2 people, Bruno son? Don't really understand what people have to be cynical or resentful for? I resented myself for a while which I've managed to put to bed."

"bruuuno 4:41 Mon Feb 10 Depressed, or suffering from depression?"

"Mike Oxsaw 10:14 Sun Feb 9 Re: Anxiety/depression Bollocks. Most of the depressed people I know are pretty resentful and cynical, I sometimes wonder what came first, chicken and egg"

I think sometimes the nature of mental illness means that often the person suffering will have done or will be doing lots of things that are causing it or at least not helping the situation. You have to start by looking at what you can change. I know lots of people who self medicate with alcohol and or drugs and that can make the problems worse. * puts hand up *

"I give my time to anyone if they need in Mike. Some old lady was lost in Portsmouth. I didn't know where her destination was , so I went into some shops and asked and then a pub found out where it was and then walked with her until she knew where she was going"

Tomshardware 8:34 Sun Feb 9

"The ""helping others"" aspect is quite interesting. I'd bet a pound to a penny that most, if not all, of the people suffering depression would be the first in line to offer somebody else help if asked. These people literally end up with no time for themselves and their own lives."

"I think sometimes the nature of mental illness means that often the person suffering will have done or will be doing lots of things that are causing it or at least not helping the situation. You have to start by looking at what you can change. I know lots of people who self medicate with alcohol and or drugs and that can make the problems worse. You have to look at every aspect of your life to combat mental illness. Yes meds and therapy can help but as others have said, exercise, nature, volunteering, having a purpose, helping others, mindfulness can all help as well."

"mashed in maryland 3:06 Fri Feb 7 Re: Anxiety/depression I know plenty of people who they work charmingly for. The meds are a tool, they aren’t the solution."

I see. Well I for one have certainly fallen into the Friday curry routine!