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Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 29 Dec 2023, 15:00
by Vexed
According to sky they're offering this fucking idiot a 2.5 year contract. I fucking hope not.
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 20:31
by Capitol Man
"No, I live in the US now. Did you have an answer as to why you think this will workout well for us? A single example will do."
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 19:47
by onsideman
"You don't go to games, do you Capitol Man?"
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 19:09
by Capitol Man
What in all the combined experience with west ham over the years makes you think that ditching our statistically most successful manager in club history to replace him with someone that plays more entertaining football is going to go well for us?
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 18:43
by marty feldman
I strongly suspect if he gets a new deal . He'd have to agree to steitden bringing in the players ? . Will he . As usual with this club too many are jumping the gun . If he has any sense he'd look at kudus Alvarez and mavropannos. And trust steitdens judgement.
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 18:31
by Side of Ham
"I'm sure if we had a Lingard type of player (not him obvs) on the left to balance out with Kudus on the right we'd have the opposition actually having to think about defending a lot......this MAY make Moyes the right fit to take us forward but he would still have to solve his issue with squad rotation unless forced into it, and learn to keep these fringe players involved so the swap out isn't such a big issue for us."
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 18:08
by Nutsin
"Good for Moyes and good for us, he’s earned it. A couple of good additions to the team plus a couple to the squad and we’ll be looking good. I’m looking forward to the second half of the season. I expect a good showing in Europe again and a good run at qualifying for Europe again next year with our domestic campaign. Top 6 is definitely achievable. For starters I’d go after a pacey left winger and a center half. For squad players I’d go for a left back to back up Emerson who is playing extremely well under Moyes and a ball winning tackler to back up Alvarez who is also flourishing under Moyes. Benrahma, Cresswell and Johnson to leave. In the summer is when we replace Ings and upgrade Coufal. Although we will keep Coufal in as an active squad player. That’s when we retire Oggie, sell Kehrer and Fornals. I’d keep Cornet as cover on the left flank."
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 16:52
by onsideman
"The suggestion that Moyes might change, now, at the age of 60 and after 25 years in management really is laughable"
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 16:28
by Sir Alf
"nychammer, in your first paragraph you've summarised in a lot less words than I ever could ( *** no sh*t, you dont say, Sir Alf you all cry ), my basic thinking too. It could be wishful thinking but if he stays we cannot progress further without being able to play a different way in some games and being good at it ( better technical quality, speed etc)."
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 16:24
by nychammer
"I would offer him another contract IF he could temper the defensive performances against Arsenal with a bit more of an attacking press at home against the poorer sides. If we can get players in the door in January that truly improve us id be feeling a lot better about it too. What is more, I think so long as we have the current ownership structure keeping Moyes might just be the safest bet. Not sure I trust Sullivan to make sound choices when it comes to a new manager."
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 16:12
by rumford
"I think all of the teams, bar Spurs. in the top 8 or so in the premier league all have additional finacial sustainability issues regarding their spend due to their partipation in European cmpetitions."
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 16:12
by rumford
"I think all of the teams, bar Spurs. in the top 8 or so in the premier league all have additional finacial sustainability issues regarding their spend due to their partipation in European cmpetitions."
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 16:00
by Tomshardware
Give him another contract you swines..
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 15:14
by fraser
We don't have any FFP issues the Rice sale stopped all that.
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 15:05
by Sir Alf
You’re most welcome ;-)
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 15:03
by RM10
So many words
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 14:46
by Sir Alf
"Not much in life is binary / black or white. I still just sit on the Moyes out side of the fence but hedge that on the hope that a relationship ( not that kind of one :-) ) with Steidten, working as a team, can counteract or compromise on some of Moyes intransigence or stubbornness. It’s sometimes seen as a strength to stick with your ways, methods etc. but 20 years on even Moyes has the intelligence to know he doesn’t know everything. And seeing that recruitment is now a big differentiator ( example Brighton punching well above their financial standing ) and developing a footballing philosophy and strategy for longer term success is also critical. Steidten being brought in has the potential to get us to the proverbial next level if Moyes will work with him. Moyes knows his to organise a defence and play on the counter ( Moyesball) and there have been improvements in our passing but not enough emphasis on it and using g a squad across multiple competitions. Is Moyes insecure or a bit of a moral coward and avoids confrontation with players wanting more game time or favouring those that are “Brown nosers”. 46 years working life showed that was often the case in businesses that underperformed. Weak management , lack of emotional fortitude, poor relationship and communication skills. That might be Moyes limitations if some rumours are to be believed? So Steidten can hopefully get him to focus on the hands on coaching, tactical side, fitness and training and leave the soft skills to others ? Don’t know Moyes so who knows if it’s possible. If he is mellowing a bit with age, seen that Steidten and his new coaches like Hertinga can be trusted, it might just mean we can progress with him? As things stand, he’s done a decent job but the squad is unbalanced, lacks quality in depth and not used ( is that why or does it lack quality because players outside the favoured 14 are demotivated, not match fit due to lack of minutes). Moyes needs to change at least a bit and compromise to really survive and take us further otherwise the Conference win was the peak already. Can he develop the way we play with better players ? Will he drop the weak links his favourites ? I have my doubts but hope he does to safe him from himself Btw, those of you who’ve read this far and have your head in a noose, shotgun in ur mouth, apologies as always for my affliction of using 50 words when one will do and repeating myself day in day out . It will end once the Moyes renewal is decided. So there’s hope for u all :-)"
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 14:23
by Side of Ham
Isn’t that kind of his main reason for being here RM10?
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 14:02
by BRANDED
Moyes is just about one of the most successful West Ham managers. How you like it is subjective as we all know.
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 14:00
by Manuel
"Will - Yea, it appears than January is just the opening of talks, with Steiden in the picture now and Sullivan not having to sack and pay out Moyes, plus any other stuff that's on the table, then it's still a way off to all parties being happy and Moyes signing on the line that's dotted."
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 13:59
by goose
I suspect you’ve made that up based on zero evidence.
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 13:58
by RM10
"Tim would have to work wonders to get decent loans,"
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 13:56
by Willtell
I suspect that Sullivan’s meeting with Moyes in January isn’t to automatically renew Moyes contract. I reckon Moyes will be told that the new role is to be head coach reporting to Steidten. The question is whether Moyes will find that acceptable after having full control of clubs for all his working life as a manager. I suspect Moyes will not find that acceptable…
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 13:55
by Side of Ham
Doesn’t have to be signings RM10 can be a loan like Lingard….
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 13:54
by Hammer and Pickle
The point being buried under the Moyes Front’s word humous is very simple: we need a manager whose preferred approach is our best approach. In Moyes’s case the two are all to often at odds with each other and that’s unlikely ever to change.
Re: Moyes being offered a new contract. FFS
Posted: 30 Dec 2023, 13:51
by RM10
"Unless we offload a few you will be disappointed with signings, can’t afford a FFP issue."