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goose wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 20:10SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 19:24 Someone tell Goose that the EU isn't a country.
And it's a fag-paper under 41% and falling, not 42%.UK trade in numbers (web version) - GOV.UK . And that includes the ever popular Rotterdam effect (about 5% probably, maybe a bit more).
So we've amazing gone from a frightening, 'nearly half' to a less daunting, 'just about a third'.
Remainers gonna Remainer...I said trading partner not trading country. The U.K. is currently doing a deal with the EU. They’re not doing a deal with France and a deal with Germany and a deal with Italy……….
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 19:24 Someone tell Goose that the EU isn't a country.
And it's a fag-paper under 41% and falling, not 42%.UK trade in numbers (web version) - GOV.UK . And that includes the ever popular Rotterdam effect (about 5% probably, maybe a bit more).
So we've amazing gone from a frightening, 'nearly half' to a less daunting, 'just about a third'.
Remainers gonna Remainer...
Nutsin wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 01:49 Here is In 2024, the UK exported $79.9 billion in goods to the USA, accounting for 16.2% of total UK goods exports, making the USA the UK's largest goods export partner. Key goods exported included:
- Machinery and transport equipment: $29.1 billion, with cars being a significant component at $9.0 billion (27.4% of total UK car exports).
- Chemicals: $14.2 billion, led by medicinal and pharmaceutical products ($8.8 billion, 33.9% of UK exports in this category).
- Materials: $4.2 billion.
For services, the UK exported $137.0 billion to the USA in 2024 (27.0% of total UK services exports), with other business services, such as legal, accounting, and consulting, being the largest category at $61.2 billion.
The USA imposed a 10% baseline tariff on most UK goods imports starting April 5, 2025, with 25% tariffs on steel, aluminum, cars, and car parts. A recent UK-USA trade deal reduced tariffs on some UK exports, notably cutting the car tariff to 10% for up to 100,000 vehicles annually and removing tariffs on steel, aluminum, and Rolls-Royce engines and plane parts. However, quotas apply, and exports exceeding these face higher tariffs (e.g., 27.5% for cars).
The trade relationship remains significant, supporting 2.5 million jobs across both countries, though tariffs pose challenges to UK exporters, potentially requiring price cuts to stay competitive.
Lets see what happens eh?
Nutsin wrote: ↑11 May 2025, 00:41goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 22:47Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 22:29Aren’t you the genius that was calling for the sky to fall in Stocks when others were buying a bargain of a lifetime?
Looking at the US/UK deal Tariffs were working fine for the UK until now, with the new trade agreement looks like Trump came out way ahead, so I’d say Trumps Tariffs have worked a treat so far, if you live in the USA of course.
we’ll see how Us trade in autos and Beef do once the new trade deal is finalized. Don’t be surprised if your doom and gloom bollox is proven wrong again you brainwashed socialist.Worked a treat so far by:
making imported goods more expensive for everyone in the USA.
Had your growth forecast downgraded by literally everyone.
stopped the FED from reducing interest rates.
got you one deal with the uk which gives you access to sell cars nobody wants at the same duty it was anyway, and the opportunity to sell beef which doesn’t pass health & safety standards.
great job
I think you’ll find the 10% Tariff on British autos will hit the rich, we prefer American Beef.
Still talking negative forecasts. Here’s one, Trumps tax cuts are expected to add 3-4% to the GDP. Oh and by the way they include tax increases on the rich, people making over $2 mill per year.
As for the Fed lowering rates you are wrong! The Fed was lowering rates under Biden but the yield on the 10 year was rising because of inflation concerns. Look it up
Looking at the art of the deal I’d say Trump is way ahead with the UK. USA and China are currently in negotiations let’s see what happens. I’ll give you a prediction, The Sky want fall in!
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 23:28Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:04“Terminal decline” what a load of bollocks.
Ford Mustangs out here are a lot cheaper than any of the British imports I mentioned and cheaper than Mercedes and BMW. It’s not even close. Mustang MSRP is $32 k approx Mercedes e350 MSRP start at approx $50k plus. BMW MSRP 3 series is approx $45k
Nobody has won or lost anything, all this conjecture on what will happen to US products in the UK moving forward remains to be seen.
Suffice to say most of the shit being spouted by the usual doom and gloom merchants has been proven to be bollox.
Goose hasn’t been right yet. I wouldn’t listen to him if I were you.
So Trumps 10% Tariffs are a money maker for the US and Goose said Tariffs wouldn’t work. Looks like the USA came out on top in a big way on this trade deal.
MAGA!Not really sure what your point is here Nutstain. Of course Mustangs are cheaper over there than a Rolls Royce but they are aimed at a totally different market.
Take the 10% tarrifs for the Rolls Royces and Jags good luck but as you say nothing is clear its all conjecture which is all you have too.
You'll make a few hundred milliion from US citizens paying more for luxury cars! Thats in no way winning big! My gut feel is that this deal will make very little difference if at all
But if Trump doesnt secure real deals which help the US manufacturers youll lose billions, like Boeing appears to be heading it wont make up for the billions already lost in trade!
Trump will have to row back further on tarrifs and that may include tarrifs on the UK this " deal" isnt even finalised so leta just see what happens!
goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 22:47Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 22:29goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:11lol this from the genius who said a 45% decline was a golden opportunity
yes I’d say that’s a terminal decline.
Ford Mustangs are available in the uk, nobody wants them. Like I said they’ve just had their worst sales in 60 years. You’ll probably claim this is another great opportunity
if tariffs worked so well the markets wouldn’t have shit themselves.
if tariffs worked so well trump wouldn’t have been forced to make an embarrassing U-turn.
if tariffs worked so well then American companies wouldn’t be front loading all their inventories.
The only thing proven to be bollocks is your ability to google simple questions like “how much duty do you pay on US cars imported to the U.K.”
Aren’t you the genius that was calling for the sky to fall in Stocks when others were buying a bargain of a lifetime?
Looking at the US/UK deal Tariffs were working fine for the UK until now, with the new trade agreement looks like Trump came out way ahead, so I’d say Trumps Tariffs have worked a treat so far, if you live in the USA of course.
we’ll see how Us trade in autos and Beef do once the new trade deal is finalized. Don’t be surprised if your doom and gloom bollox is proven wrong again you brainwashed socialist.Worked a treat so far by:
making imported goods more expensive for everyone in the USA.
Had your growth forecast downgraded by literally everyone.
stopped the FED from reducing interest rates.
got you one deal with the uk which gives you access to sell cars nobody wants at the same duty it was anyway, and the opportunity to sell beef which doesn’t pass health & safety standards.
great job
Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:04“Terminal decline” what a load of bollocks.
Ford Mustangs out here are a lot cheaper than any of the British imports I mentioned and cheaper than Mercedes and BMW. It’s not even close. Mustang MSRP is $32 k approx Mercedes e350 MSRP start at approx $50k plus. BMW MSRP 3 series is approx $45k
Nobody has won or lost anything, all this conjecture on what will happen to US products in the UK moving forward remains to be seen.
Suffice to say most of the shit being spouted by the usual doom and gloom merchants has been proven to be bollox.
Goose hasn’t been right yet. I wouldn’t listen to him if I were you.
So Trumps 10% Tariffs are a money maker for the US and Goose said Tariffs wouldn’t work. Looks like the USA came out on top in a big way on this trade deal.
MAGA!
Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 22:29goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:11Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:04“Terminal decline” what a load of bollocks.
Ford Mustangs out here are a lot cheaper than any of the British imports I mentioned and cheaper than Mercedes and BMW. It’s not even close. Mustang MSRP is $32 k approx Mercedes e350 MSRP start at approx $50k plus. BMW MSRP 3 series is approx $45k
Nobody has won or lost anything, all this conjecture on what will happen to US products in the UK moving forward remains to be seen.
Suffice to say most of the shit being spouted by the usual doom and gloom merchants has been proven to be bollox.
Goose hasn’t been right yet. I wouldn’t listen to him if I were you.
So Trumps 10% Tariffs are a money maker for the US and Goose said Tariffs wouldn’t work. Looks like the USA came out on top in a big way on this trade deal.
MAGA!lol this from the genius who said a 45% decline was a golden opportunity
yes I’d say that’s a terminal decline.
Ford Mustangs are available in the uk, nobody wants them. Like I said they’ve just had their worst sales in 60 years. You’ll probably claim this is another great opportunity
if tariffs worked so well the markets wouldn’t have shit themselves.
if tariffs worked so well trump wouldn’t have been forced to make an embarrassing U-turn.
if tariffs worked so well then American companies wouldn’t be front loading all their inventories.
The only thing proven to be bollocks is your ability to google simple questions like “how much duty do you pay on US cars imported to the U.K.”
Aren’t you the genius that was calling for the sky to fall in Stocks when others were buying a bargain of a lifetime?
Looking at the US/UK deal Tariffs were working fine for the UK until now, with the new trade agreement looks like Trump came out way ahead, so I’d say Trumps Tariffs have worked a treat so far, if you live in the USA of course.
we’ll see how Us trade in autos and Beef do once the new trade deal is finalized. Don’t be surprised if your doom and gloom bollox is proven wrong again you brainwashed socialist.
goose wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:11Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:04“Terminal decline” what a load of bollocks.
Ford Mustangs out here are a lot cheaper than any of the British imports I mentioned and cheaper than Mercedes and BMW. It’s not even close. Mustang MSRP is $32 k approx Mercedes e350 MSRP start at approx $50k plus. BMW MSRP 3 series is approx $45k
Nobody has won or lost anything, all this conjecture on what will happen to US products in the UK moving forward remains to be seen.
Suffice to say most of the shit being spouted by the usual doom and gloom merchants has been proven to be bollox.
Goose hasn’t been right yet. I wouldn’t listen to him if I were you.
So Trumps 10% Tariffs are a money maker for the US and Goose said Tariffs wouldn’t work. Looks like the USA came out on top in a big way on this trade deal.
MAGA!lol this from the genius who said a 45% decline was a golden opportunity
yes I’d say that’s a terminal decline.
Ford Mustangs are available in the uk, nobody wants them. Like I said they’ve just had their worst sales in 60 years. You’ll probably claim this is another great opportunity
if tariffs worked so well the markets wouldn’t have shit themselves.
if tariffs worked so well trump wouldn’t have been forced to make an embarrassing U-turn.
if tariffs worked so well then American companies wouldn’t be front loading all their inventories.
The only thing proven to be bollocks is your ability to google simple questions like “how much duty do you pay on US cars imported to the U.K.”
Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 20:04“Terminal decline” what a load of bollocks.
Ford Mustangs out here are a lot cheaper than any of the British imports I mentioned and cheaper than Mercedes and BMW. It’s not even close. Mustang MSRP is $32 k approx Mercedes e350 MSRP start at approx $50k plus. BMW MSRP 3 series is approx $45k
Nobody has won or lost anything, all this conjecture on what will happen to US products in the UK moving forward remains to be seen.
Suffice to say most of the shit being spouted by the usual doom and gloom merchants has been proven to be bollox.
Goose hasn’t been right yet. I wouldn’t listen to him if I were you.
So Trumps 10% Tariffs are a money maker for the US and Goose said Tariffs wouldn’t work. Looks like the USA came out on top in a big way on this trade deal.
MAGA!
Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 18:25BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 17:06 Nutsack
The UK 10% tarrifs on cars applied to all not just the US. Its not all about you!!!
Oh and now that US cars will be significantly more expensive given the tarrifs applied to the parts they import from Canada and Mexico I suspect we'll be importing fewer US cars this year.
Go MAGA!
Oh and very few of the 18000 US cars imported are cheap many of them are high end Mustangs, Jeeps, Corvettes and Mercs and BMWs it seems. Maybe we'll start getting them from somewhere else who knows, either way they'll probably be more expensive soon.
https://www.motoringresearch.com/slides ... in-the-uk/Lot less expensive than Rolls Royce, Jaguar, Bentley, Aston Martin and Range Rover.
All bigger cars than a mustang or a fusion. So as far as not fitting the roads in the UK that’s a load of bollox.
Same with pick up trucks, they’re smaller than minivans and SUV’s.
As for the Tariffs my source was Google AI.
Look it up.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 17:06 Nutsack
The UK 10% tarrifs on cars applied to all not just the US. Its not all about you!!!
Oh and now that US cars will be significantly more expensive given the tarrifs applied to the parts they import from Canada and Mexico I suspect we'll be importing fewer US cars this year.
Go MAGA!
Oh and very few of the 18000 US cars imported are cheap many of them are high end Mustangs, Jeeps, Corvettes and Mercs and BMWs it seems. Maybe we'll start getting them from somewhere else who knows, either way they'll probably be more expensive soon.
https://www.motoringresearch.com/slides ... in-the-uk/
Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 16:34BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:57Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:31Finally a sensible post from Billy.
The uS sold approx 18,000 vehicles in the UK in 2024, due to Tariffs being 27.5%.
under the new trade agreement that drops to 10% for up to 100,000 cars.
That is a big difference, you will see the number of USA cars sales increase because of it. It’s gonna happen, you’ll see.
A word to the wise, Stop listening to Goose he’s been dead wrong about everything, the idiot didn’t even realize he was a Socialist ffs!
Where do you get 27% tarrifs on cars from? I understand it was 10% on US cars. So if its still 10% which Im not sure if it is or not wont make any difference as Goose says in general US cars are not fit for UK standards and UK roads. As I said 18000 cars to US manufacturers is zilch and we wont be doubling that any time soon. However the UK exports 101,000 cars to the US and they or their customers will have to eat the 10% but if thats a reciprocal tarrif then thats fair!So the US now has a 10% reciprocal Tariff on the first 100,000 cars sold.
Prior the UK were selling 102,000 cars all of them expensive cars. The USA sold less than 20,000 cars all cheap models.
What idiot insisted on the 10% Tariffs on US cars being sold in the UK and why? Were they worried if they removed the 10% Tariffs the US would sell more cars, taking market share? What else could it be?
I mean why not just remove the 10% Tariffs altogether ffs? This is beyond idiotic. Now you have a 10% Tariff on 100,000 UK made cars that are sold in the USA.
Whoever brokered this in the UK should be fired.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:57Nutsin wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 15:31BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑10 May 2025, 14:46 Ffs Nutsack quit while you're behind!
The US auto manufacturers dont give a shit about the tiny UK market. No one is buying Teslas so forget it. Same with beef its a tiny market no one is buying US beef so the "deal" is pointless.
What the US manufacturers actually want is for the tarrifs with Canada and Mexico to be dropped as that is their supply chain fucked currently! US parts sold to Canada and Mexico and vice versa feed the car industry on both sides of the borders.Finally a sensible post from Billy.
The uS sold approx 18,000 vehicles in the UK in 2024, due to Tariffs being 27.5%.
under the new trade agreement that drops to 10% for up to 100,000 cars.
That is a big difference, you will see the number of USA cars sales increase because of it. It’s gonna happen, you’ll see.
A word to the wise, Stop listening to Goose he’s been dead wrong about everything, the idiot didn’t even realize he was a Socialist ffs!
Where do you get 27% tarrifs on cars from? I understand it was 10% on US cars. So if its still 10% which Im not sure if it is or not wont make any difference as Goose says in general US cars are not fit for UK standards and UK roads. As I said 18000 cars to US manufacturers is zilch and we wont be doubling that any time soon. However the UK exports 101,000 cars to the US and they or their customers will have to eat the 10% but if thats a reciprocal tarrif then thats fair!