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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 12:22
by Council Scum
XKhammer wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 09:44
David Icke" wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 22:26
Fucking hell, give it a rest with the hard man patter you ginger deviant cսnt.
Seeing as I'm currently somewhere between the Philippines and China, and not due to return to the UK until late January/early February next year you'll have to wait a little until you're given the opportunity to 'stick me in a wheelchair'. Nevermind, as all good things come to those who wait.
Not too sure we'll have a game whilst I'm back in the UK, but have fuck-all problem meeting you at a boozer of your choice.
I'll WHOmail you when back home. Give you as much notice as I can.
Honestly, REALLY can't wait to meet you Joyo.
No problem look forward to it
Oh and you're falsely accusing me of noncey behaviour in SE Asia and you're out there right now!!!!
People in class houses!!!!
You do realise that, just because you are in SE Asia, you have to abuse kids, right? You can just leave them alone.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 09:47
by Mike Oxsaw
goose wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 09:24
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 08:14
goose wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 07:51
The question was ‘how has Trump been a disaster for the world’. I gave an answer, you can challenge the answer
But he hasn't. Where is the disaster for the world?
I’d say wholesale reductions in global economic growth is pretty disastrous.
Economic growth is not a divine right - it's a calculated expectation.
All Trump has done is changed a few parameters pertinent to the country who's voters put him into power.
Up to those outside the USA to deal with it...or not.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 09:44
by XKhammer
David Icke" wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025, 22:26
XKhammer wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 11:36
You won't will you but you could meet after Spurs game along the Greenway ...dont worry no trees along there but you might in up in a wheelchair
Fucking hell, give it a rest with the hard man patter you ginger deviant cսnt.
Seeing as I'm currently somewhere between the Philippines and China, and not due to return to the UK until late January/early February next year you'll have to wait a little until you're given the opportunity to 'stick me in a wheelchair'. Nevermind, as all good things come to those who wait.
Not too sure we'll have a game whilst I'm back in the UK, but have fuck-all problem meeting you at a boozer of your choice.
I'll WHOmail you when back home. Give you as much notice as I can.
Honestly, REALLY can't wait to meet you Joyo.
No problem look forward to it
Oh and you're falsely accusing me of noncey behaviour in SE Asia and you're out there right now!!!!
People in class houses!!!!
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 09:24
by goose
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 08:14
goose wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 07:51
The question was ‘how has Trump been a disaster for the world’. I gave an answer, you can challenge the answer
But he hasn't. Where is the disaster for the world?
I’d say wholesale reductions in global economic growth is pretty disastrous.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 08:35
by Massive Attack
Keir Starmer - A master of disaster for the UK.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 08:22
by Eerie Decent
I fucking wish our PM would put our country and our people first.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 08:14
by Massive Attack
goose wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 07:51
The question was ‘how has Trump been a disaster for the world’. I gave an answer, you can challenge the answer
But he hasn't. Where is the disaster for the world?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 08:11
by Mike Oxsaw
goose wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 07:51
The question was ‘how has Trump been a disaster for the world’. I gave an answer, you can challenge the answer but don’t talk about a completely different question.
if you wanna talk about his impact on the US it’s been done to death - jobs market, increasing inflation, increasing national debt, reduced growth etc etc.
ask the 40+ blue chip companies who have reduced their profit guidance because of tariffs.
In that case, Trump has NOT been a disaster for the world (or it's economy). Businesses are still trading, people are still working.
What has changed is predicted performance/growth/profits and they are not actual events, they're...predictions...guesses...hopes.
Expectations people had before Trump simply need to be realigned with the new relationships he's decided on for how his own country's economy operates.
And that is Expectation Management, and someone's expectations are nothing to do with Trump.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 07:51
by goose
The question was ‘how has Trump been a disaster for the world’. I gave an answer, you can challenge the answer but don’t talk about a completely different question.
if you wanna talk about his impact on the US it’s been done to death - jobs market, increasing inflation, increasing national debt, reduced growth etc etc.
ask the 40+ blue chip companies who have reduced their profit guidance because of tariffs.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 07:10
by Massive Attack
goose wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 06:55
He’s been a disaster for the global economy if that helps?
He's primarily America's President elected to do his best for his people and his Country first and foremost. He isn't responsible for other Countries economy if it does have a knock-on effect.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 07:05
by Mike Oxsaw
goose wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025, 06:55
He’s been a disaster for the global economy if that helps?
If trump wants to rearrange the US economy and the conditions that rest of the world's nations need to meet in order to trade with them, that's entirely up to him and those who voted him in.
It's perfectly "fair" as nations don't have a right - divine or otherwise - to trade with/in other nations (or, indeed tell them what to do or how to behave).
Doing so is a business risk choice and a good business owner will already have contingency ("what-if?") plans prepared for such changes.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 08 Sep 2025, 06:55
by goose
He’s been a disaster for the global economy if that helps?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 07 Sep 2025, 23:24
by only1billybonds
Can anyone highlight how Trump has been 'disastrous' for the world. What exactly has he made worse than what it already was?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 07 Sep 2025, 23:12
by Massive Attack
XKhammer wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 11:40
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 11:21
Leonard Hatred" wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 10:43
We're going to end up with Nigel Farage as Prime Minister aren't we?
For fuck's sake.
He's by far the best option. A bit like Trump was for the USA. Not a particularly nice bloke, but will make the difficult decisions this country needs that the other 2 parties refuse to make.
Trump is very hit and miss for US,but an absolute disaster for the world
The Peacemaker?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 07 Sep 2025, 22:26
by David Icke
XKhammer wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 11:36
You won't will you but you could meet after Spurs game along the Greenway ...dont worry no trees along there but you might in up in a wheelchair
Fucking hell, give it a rest with the hard man patter you ginger deviant cսnt.
Seeing as I'm currently somewhere between the Philippines and China, and not due to return to the UK until late January/early February next year you'll have to wait a little until you're given the opportunity to 'stick me in a wheelchair'. Nevermind, as all good things come to those who wait.
Not too sure we'll have a game whilst I'm back in the UK, but have fuck-all problem meeting you at a boozer of your choice.
I'll WHOmail you when back home. Give you as much notice as I can.
Honestly, REALLY can't wait to meet you Joyo.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 20:58
by Lee Trundle
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 15:46
I never said you said Farage would be a good thing
You said it may be disastrous but that you’d prefer it
I pointed out it would almost certainly be disastrous with his Liz Truss style economics
Farage is typical of modern politics & life where the hard of thinking treat running the country as like voting for who should win Love Island
Have said before the standard of politicians is abysmal
If Starmer, Badenoch or Farage joined your company would you see them as anything but a minor middle manager? Maybe trust them to be in charge of ordering paper clips
I know you're desperate not to admit it, but this country has a huge problem with illegal immigration.
Who do you think is the best leader to try to fix that out of the 3 major parties that are likely to get voted in next general election?
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 17:15
by Massive Attack
only1billybonds wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 12:53
Where did i say Farage would be a good thing.
I do. I definitely do.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 17:14
by zebthecat
goose wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 13:29
Whoever is PM is completely fucked. You would need to make some very unpopular decisions regarding welfare & pensions.
The economy hasn’t shown any signs of real growth in god knows how long, while more & more people are relying on the state for income.
good luck with solving that equation.
The last time we had any proper growth was in the recovery from the 2008 crash.
Since 2010 at has been wall to wall austerity in some shape or form.
Not surprising that people are pissed off.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 15:46
by Fauxstralian
I never said you said Farage would be a good thing
You said it may be disastrous but that you’d prefer it
I pointed out it would almost certainly be disastrous with his Liz Truss style economics
Farage is typical of modern politics & life where the hard of thinking treat running the country as like voting for who should win Love Island
Have said before the standard of politicians is abysmal
If Starmer, Badenoch or Farage joined your company would you see them as anything but a minor middle manager? Maybe trust them to be in charge of ordering paper clips
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 13:51
by Mike Oxsaw
goose wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 13:29
Whoever is PM is completely fucked. You would need to make some very unpopular decisions regarding welfare & pensions.
The economy hasn’t shown any signs of real growth in god knows how long, while more & more people are relying on the state for income.
good luck with solving that equation.
Exactly. That's why I feel that Farage should leave Labour holding the baby at the next election. The underlying, but fully understood message should be "We can, we will, but not yet."
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 13:29
by goose
Whoever is PM is completely fucked. You would need to make some very unpopular decisions regarding welfare & pensions.
The economy hasn’t shown any signs of real growth in god knows how long, while more & more people are relying on the state for income.
good luck with solving that equation.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 12:53
by only1billybonds
Sven.
Where did i say Farage would be a good thing.
The decisions made over recent years have led us to where we are now. If you think we are currently in good shape then you must know a hell of a lot more than the rest of us.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 12:50
by Fauxstralian
Disastrous?
You mean the £90bn of tax cuts & £50bn of additional spending?
Quite endearing the way some people think that Farage would improve their lives
Just like Brexit has
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 12:20
by only1billybonds
By the time of the next election, we will have had (Brexit aside) 20 years of shitshow politicians making shitshow decisions. Other than the very young, I can't think why anyone would vote for Labour or the Tories again. The Greens are a freak show and the Lib Dems are not to be trusted.
I said before on here that Farage/reform may well end up disastrous but things surely can't get any worse than what we have seen in recent history.
Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)
Posted: 06 Sep 2025, 12:09
by XKhammer
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 11:48
XKhammer wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 11:40
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025, 11:21
He's by far the best option. A bit like Trump was for the USA. Not a particularly nice bloke, but will make the difficult decisions this country needs that the other 2 parties refuse to make.
Farage will make a great PM
Trump is very hit and miss for US,but an absolute disaster for the world as he's so naive,thich,chicken's out and his opinion changes so much depending on the last person who advised or spoke to him
The other option the yanks had was Harris, who would have been an absolute disaster. They made the right choice.
Our other options here are absolute disasters also.
True about Harris but Trump is still a disaster
