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goose wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 09:23 It's Germany - but still this is really shocking.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ge ... 025-05-02/
BERLIN, May 2 (Reuters) - Germany's domestic intelligence agency on Friday classified the far-right Alternative for Germany as an extremist entity that threatens democracy, a move enabling it to better monitor the party that came second in February's federal election.
Certain factions of the AfD such as its youth wing had already been classified extremist, while the party at large was classified a suspected extremist case in 2021.
The second biggest party classified as extremist.
I've seen snippets of stuff from Germany where people are getting a knock at the door for saying mean things about the government, but this is way beyond that.
It is something you would expect from Putin, shutting down any chance of a change in government.
only1billybonds wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 08:00 Be interesting to see how much traction Blair's recent comments regarding net zero take hold.
We are importing £770 million pounds worth of coal to keep our steel making plant going (after closing one in Wales) shortly after closing our mines down. Are we to assume that Japanese coal is the clean stuff and shipping it across the ocean will not add to our carbon footprint? Same as all the LPG we import from the States which has to be de -gassified upon leaving then re gassified when it gets here,which is not cheap process.
All in aid of being able to say 'look how great we are, we don't dig for coal or gas'
Milliband is one dangerous and deranged cսnt,he really has to go!!
goose wrote: ↑02 May 2025, 06:45 Only one seat removed from a massive Labour majority, but it is significant.
Labour won the last election with a huge majority, usually a majority like that guaranteed two terms at least. However, many labour seats were not won with big majorities. It will only take some 5 or 10% swings and they lose a massive number of seats.
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 20:10Looks like factories are closing in China, causing workers to protest so now China has announced it see’s no harm in talking with US.
According to Bloomberg the European Union has an offer on the table that removes Tarrifs and removes trade barriers to the US and includes investment in the USA.
Looks like it’s happening!
China and the EU are gonna help make the USA great again!
MAGA!
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 13:13Actually no, I am a British Citizen, I am out here on a Green card still. I could become a US citizen if I wanted but can’t be bothered. So I didn’t vote for Trump.
However, the witch hunt against Trump was and still is political, Just like how they went after Justice Kabanaugh. The case against Trump where he supposedly raped a woman back in the 1990’s in a dept store changing room was a joke. Only reason they found him guilty as because the trial was in New York.
Nobody believes Trump will ever get a fair trial in New York, not even you if you’re honest.
Now get out and Vote reform your kids are relying on you to finally step up and help them.
Ill be back when the trade deals are announced to gloat.
until then stop reading the propaganda bullshit you’re fed it exposes you as gullible and limited.
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 18:20goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:43Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:31Yes, in 3 months we will weigh the benefits of it all.
What does Joe Biden have to do with it, well he did unleash a giant wave of inflation that you seem to be forgetting about. Didn’t hear you fear monger so much then.And yes, Trump does get credit for inflation coming down as the price of oil is down since he won. Why? Because he has an energy policy that makes sense.
All you’ve got is fearmongering about the potential of Inflation, Meanwhile all the good that he is doing is being ignored because you have TDS.
Hard to get inflation with lower energy costs and it’s hard to have a recession with tax breaks. And yes, we’re talking about tax breaks for the middle class.
Now go out and vote reform, the kids are counting on you.You’re obsessed with kids.
Again, this is where you just make yourself look crazy. If you took the time to read anything I’ve ever posted about energy security & inflation you wouldn’t go posting rubbish. Same goes for mass immigration. But your approach to all of this has zero nuance. Somehow in your head of I don’t think tariffs are a good solution then somehow I’m liberal etc etc etc.
Good luck funding those tax cuts without the cost of borrowing coming down. Pushing inflation into the market isn’t going to help there.
Not sure who you are trying to kid but you spout so much liberal propaganda that it is obvious who you get your opinions from. Sorry but your denial is an obvious lie. You’re a liberal wether you want to admit it or not.
goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:43Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:31goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:02Remind me what Joe Biden has got to do with tariffs or Trump being found liable for sexual abuse?
The inflation bit I think you're reaching a bit claiming Feb/Mar figures are down to Trump. If Q1 GDP decline is down to Biden then surely inflation is as well? You can't have it both ways.
Within 3 months we'll have a clearer view of tariffs and just how much inflation Trump is going to layer back into the economy, and in turn how the FED feel about that.Yes, in 3 months we will weigh the benefits of it all.
What does Joe Biden have to do with it, well he did unleash a giant wave of inflation that you seem to be forgetting about. Didn’t hear you fear monger so much then.And yes, Trump does get credit for inflation coming down as the price of oil is down since he won. Why? Because he has an energy policy that makes sense.
All you’ve got is fearmongering about the potential of Inflation, Meanwhile all the good that he is doing is being ignored because you have TDS.
Hard to get inflation with lower energy costs and it’s hard to have a recession with tax breaks. And yes, we’re talking about tax breaks for the middle class.
Now go out and vote reform, the kids are counting on you.You’re obsessed with kids.
Again, this is where you just make yourself look crazy. If you took the time to read anything I’ve ever posted about energy security & inflation you wouldn’t go posting rubbish. Same goes for mass immigration. But your approach to all of this has zero nuance. Somehow in your head of I don’t think tariffs are a good solution then somehow I’m liberal etc etc etc.
Good luck funding those tax cuts without the cost of borrowing coming down. Pushing inflation into the market isn’t going to help there.
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:31goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:02Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 16:22I’ll take Trump over Hillary, Dopey Joe and Kamala the cackling retard any day of the week.
Border crossings are way down, Deporting the criminal gangs and Illegals. Mineral deal with Ukraine is signed, working on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, something you should be thankful for. Taking out Hamas just like he did ISIS. Getting Iran in check as well as China.
Brought down inflation, something sleepy Joe couldn’t do, has slashed $150 billion in Gov’t wasteful spending and counting.
Now we have new fair trade agreements and tax cuts to look forward to as well as a robust rebirth of manufacturing jobs that will finally bring wage growth and worker rights back which is why the Unions like him.
over $5 trillion in new money for manufacturing being invested as we speak.
Remind me again what the fuck did Joe give us other than inflation?
Remind me what Joe Biden has got to do with tariffs or Trump being found liable for sexual abuse?
The inflation bit I think you're reaching a bit claiming Feb/Mar figures are down to Trump. If Q1 GDP decline is down to Biden then surely inflation is as well? You can't have it both ways.
Within 3 months we'll have a clearer view of tariffs and just how much inflation Trump is going to layer back into the economy, and in turn how the FED feel about that.Yes, in 3 months we will weigh the benefits of it all.
What does Joe Biden have to do with it, well he did unleash a giant wave of inflation that you seem to be forgetting about. Didn’t hear you fear monger so much then.And yes, Trump does get credit for inflation coming down as the price of oil is down since he won. Why? Because he has an energy policy that makes sense.
All you’ve got is fearmongering about the potential of Inflation, Meanwhile all the good that he is doing is being ignored because you have TDS.
Hard to get inflation with lower energy costs and it’s hard to have a recession with tax breaks. And yes, we’re talking about tax breaks for the middle class.
Now go out and vote reform, the kids are counting on you.
goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:02Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 16:22I’ll take Trump over Hillary, Dopey Joe and Kamala the cackling retard any day of the week.
Border crossings are way down, Deporting the criminal gangs and Illegals. Mineral deal with Ukraine is signed, working on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, something you should be thankful for. Taking out Hamas just like he did ISIS. Getting Iran in check as well as China.
Brought down inflation, something sleepy Joe couldn’t do, has slashed $150 billion in Gov’t wasteful spending and counting.
Now we have new fair trade agreements and tax cuts to look forward to as well as a robust rebirth of manufacturing jobs that will finally bring wage growth and worker rights back which is why the Unions like him.
over $5 trillion in new money for manufacturing being invested as we speak.
Remind me again what the fuck did Joe give us other than inflation?
Remind me what Joe Biden has got to do with tariffs or Trump being found liable for sexual abuse?
The inflation bit I think you're reaching a bit claiming Feb/Mar figures are down to Trump. If Q1 GDP decline is down to Biden then surely inflation is as well? You can't have it both ways.
Within 3 months we'll have a clearer view of tariffs and just how much inflation Trump is going to layer back into the economy, and in turn how the FED feel about that.
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 16:22I’ll take Trump over Hillary, Dopey Joe and Kamala the cackling retard any day of the week.
Border crossings are way down, Deporting the criminal gangs and Illegals. Mineral deal with Ukraine is signed, working on ending the Russia/Ukraine war, something you should be thankful for. Taking out Hamas just like he did ISIS. Getting Iran in check as well as China.
Brought down inflation, something sleepy Joe couldn’t do, has slashed $150 billion in Gov’t wasteful spending and counting.
Now we have new fair trade agreements and tax cuts to look forward to as well as a robust rebirth of manufacturing jobs that will finally bring wage growth and worker rights back which is why the Unions like him.
over $5 trillion in new money for manufacturing being invested as we speak.
Remind me again what the fuck did Joe give us other than inflation?
goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:36Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:17goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:02where did i mention grooming gangs? you're the only one talking about grooming gangs here. how do you suppose council elections will stop grooming gangs?
clearly you're not better informed given all the things that you've got spectacularly wrong.
fantastic bit of 'whataboutism' on the last bit. Trump was set-up because of.................... ermmmmmm Hunters laptop?You have to be a part of the rape culture.
You are part of the rape culture - the President Trump rape culture.
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:17goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:02Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 14:53The fact that you imply the grooming gangs aren’t an issue is amazing!
What’s it gonna take for you to make a stand ffs!
I have family over there, bro, sis, Dad, Aunts,Uncles, nieces, Nephews and Cousins, so believe me, I’m better informed than you think.
As for conspiracy theories let me remind you of the conspiracy theories your media sources have spun.
Russian collusion hoax, Hunters laptop top is Russian disinformation, Bidens mental acuity is perfectly fine and yet to still listen to these networks that fed you all this bullshit?
You must be out of your tiny mind.
where did i mention grooming gangs? you're the only one talking about grooming gangs here. how do you suppose council elections will stop grooming gangs?
clearly you're not better informed given all the things that you've got spectacularly wrong.
fantastic bit of 'whataboutism' on the last bit. Trump was set-up because of.................... ermmmmmm Hunters laptop?You have to be a part of the rape culture.
goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:02Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 14:53The fact that you imply the grooming gangs aren’t an issue is amazing!
What’s it gonna take for you to make a stand ffs!
I have family over there, bro, sis, Dad, Aunts,Uncles, nieces, Nephews and Cousins, so believe me, I’m better informed than you think.
As for conspiracy theories let me remind you of the conspiracy theories your media sources have spun.
Russian collusion hoax, Hunters laptop top is Russian disinformation, Bidens mental acuity is perfectly fine and yet to still listen to these networks that fed you all this bullshit?
You must be out of your tiny mind.
where did i mention grooming gangs? you're the only one talking about grooming gangs here. how do you suppose council elections will stop grooming gangs?
clearly you're not better informed given all the things that you've got spectacularly wrong.
fantastic bit of 'whataboutism' on the last bit. Trump was set-up because of.................... ermmmmmm Hunters laptop?
Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 14:53goose wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 13:23Nutsin wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 13:13Actually no, I am a British Citizen, I am out here on a Green card still. I could become a US citizen if I wanted but can’t be bothered. So I didn’t vote for Trump.
However, the witch hunt against Trump was and still is political, Just like how they went after Justice Kabanaugh. The case against Trump where he supposedly raped a woman back in the 1990’s in a dept store changing room was a joke. Only reason they found him guilty as because the trial was in New York.
Nobody believes Trump will ever get a fair trial in New York, not even you if you’re honest.
Now get out and Vote reform your kids are relying on you to finally step up and help them.
Ill be back when the trade deals are announced to gloat.
until then stop reading the propaganda bullshit you’re fed it exposes you as gullible and limited.you do make me laugh.
you don't live here and have no appreciation of life here, but tell me I should vote reform.
you tell me not to read propaganda but then post some conspiracy theory about Trump not getting a fair trial.
amazing.The fact that you imply the grooming gangs aren’t an issue is amazing!
What’s it gonna take for you to make a stand ffs!
I have family over there, bro, sis, Dad, Aunts,Uncles, nieces, Nephews and Cousins, so believe me, I’m better informed than you think.
As for conspiracy theories let me remind you of the conspiracy theories your media sources have spun.
Russian collusion hoax, Hunters laptop top is Russian disinformation, Bidens mental acuity is perfectly fine and yet to still listen to these networks that fed you all this bullshit?
You must be out of your tiny mind.