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Hammer I am" wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 17:07

who have I insulted?? you charisma vacuum dishwater cսnt! SWT of course...

Mr Anon" wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 17:01

don't be precious, I've only insulted Nutsin and he's fair game, you don't seem to have the same energy pulling him up for calling people cunts throughout this thread

 

ironsofcanada wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:49 Mr Anon and Hammer I Am 

Do you want to insult people or debate the issues? I have raised a number of points which you apparently can't counter.

Fair enough if insults is your version of political debate but that is why Trump is a successful politician, he is better at it than most and political discourse has been lowered to this.

 

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:58

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:55

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:48

Yeah, well now there’s another bill to pay. 

No it isn’t. As I said before it’s being taken out of the foreign aid budget. 

Foreign aid budget that is funded by the tax payer or borrowed money you mean?

Mr Anon" wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 17:01

ironsofcanada wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:49 Mr Anon and Hammer I Am 

Do you want to insult people or debate the issues? I have raised a number of points which you apparently can't counter.

Fair enough if insults is your version of political debate but that is why Trump is a successful politician, he is better at it than most and political discourse has been lowered to this.

don't be precious, I've only insulted Nutsin and he's fair game, you don't seem to have the same energy pulling him up for calling people cunts throughout this thread

ironsofcanada wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:49 Mr Anon and Hammer I Am 

Do you want to insult people or debate the issues? I have raised a number of points which you apparently can't counter.

Fair enough if insults is your version of political debate but that is why Trump is a successful politician, he is better at it than most and political discourse has been lowered to this.

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:55

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:48

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:46

 

Like I said, they’ve already committed the 2.5% of GDP and shown where it’s coming from. 

Yeah, well now there’s another bill to pay. 

No it isn’t. As I said before it’s being taken out of the foreign aid budget. 

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:48

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:46

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:38

 

Melodrama? Perhaps, we’ll see. Gotta fully fund NATO and cover the loss of US funding Ukraine that has helped provide the current stalemate. Although the winter has probably helped to stall the Russians advancement. As the weather improves we will get a better measure of how bad the Russian military is. Hopefully they are too badly damaged to advance. If they do then the narrative changes to where is Putin gonna stop.

Starmer said that the UK agree they do have to start paying their full obligation to NATO and that will commence in 2027. How long is it gonna take to get the extra Billions to fund the war? One would think it would be a priority.

 

Like I said, they’ve already committed the 2.5% of GDP and shown where it’s coming from. 

Yeah, well now there’s another bill to pay. 

Mr Anon and Hammer I Am 

Do you want to insult people or debate the issues? I have raised a number of points which you apparently can't counter.

Fair enough if insults is your version of political debate but that is why Trump is a successful politician, he is better at it than most and political discourse has been lowered to this.

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:46

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:38

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:24

As a single country the US pays the lions share, but Europe collectively has given more humanitarian aid while the two a broadly similar for military aid.

it’s February now and no pensioners have frozen to death. The revised spending in the military has been taken out of foreign aid so the tax payer isn’t any worse off.

you really do have a taste for melodrama.

 

Melodrama? Perhaps, we’ll see. Gotta fully fund NATO and cover the loss of US funding Ukraine that has helped provide the current stalemate. Although the winter has probably helped to stall the Russians advancement. As the weather improves we will get a better measure of how bad the Russian military is. Hopefully they are too badly damaged to advance. If they do then the narrative changes to where is Putin gonna stop.

Starmer said that the UK agree they do have to start paying their full obligation to NATO and that will commence in 2027. How long is it gonna take to get the extra Billions to fund the war? One would think it would be a priority.

 

Like I said, they’ve already committed the 2.5% of GDP and shown where it’s coming from. 

Mr Anon" wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:30

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:14

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:02

You’ve lost me, why exactly is the national debt going to explode? Why is the U.K. going bankrupt?

Where is the money coming from to fund the war once the US stops paying? The US pays the lion share. That’s about to end. Someone’s gotta pay it, unless you want to see the Russians advance. You’ll see, you can’t afford to keep the pensioners warm in the winter as it stands.  Something’s gonna have to give.

counties happy to support their ally will pay what they can and no more, no one is going to bankrupt themselves you silly twat.

 

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:38

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:24

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:14

Where is the money coming from to fund the war once the US stops paying? The US pays the lion share. That’s about to end. Someone’s gotta pay it, unless you want to see the Russians advance. You’ll see, you can’t afford to keep the pensioners warm in the winter as it stands.  Something’s gonna have to give.

As a single country the US pays the lions share, but Europe collectively has given more humanitarian aid while the two a broadly similar for military aid.

it’s February now and no pensioners have frozen to death. The revised spending in the military has been taken out of foreign aid so the tax payer isn’t any worse off.

you really do have a taste for melodrama.

 

Melodrama? Perhaps, we’ll see. Gotta fully fund NATO and cover the loss of US funding Ukraine that has helped provide the current stalemate. Although the winter has probably helped to stall the Russians advancement. As the weather improves we will get a better measure of how bad the Russian military is. Hopefully they are too badly damaged to advance. If they do then the narrative changes to where is Putin gonna stop.

Starmer said that the UK agree they do have to start paying their full obligation to NATO and that will commence in 2027. How long is it gonna take to get the extra Billions to fund the war? One would think it would be a priority.

 

Best interpretation of team Trump v Team Zelenskyy I’ve seen so far: 

- Zelensky: Give me more money and weapons.

- Trump: No, we need a ceasefire first and mineral guarantees, so the USA has an economic reason to be involved.

- Zelensky: No, I won't negotiate with Putin. Putin is pure evil and won't abide by the ceasefire.

- Trump: Well, you need a ceasefire first, because we aren't going to give you more money and military equipment, if you don't agree to our terms.

- Zelensky: Give me more money and weapons.

- Vance: We're trying to end this war through diplomacy. Giving you more money and weapons just prolongs the conflict.

- Zelensky: You don't know shit about what's going on in Ukraine. Your diplomacy with Russia won't work.

- Vance: You're losing, you retard. You're losing so badly that you're pulling strangers off the street and pushing them to the frontline.

- Zelensky: You don't know shit. You will feel the disaster of this war in your country eventually.

- Trump: Don't tell us what we're going to feel you little monkey. You don't have the fucking cards. You're nothing without us. And you're the dumbass that keeps saying you don't want a ceasefire.

- Zelensky: We've been fighting this war alone for 3 years.

- Trump: You didn't fight this war alone, retard. We gave you hundreds of billions of dollars in cash, aid and military equipment. Russia would've steamrolled your ass in 2 weeks if we didn't back you up. If you don't want our diplomacy, then go fight the war by yourself, asshole.

Hammer I am" wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:35 you can almost hear Nutsin rubbing his hands in glee at the thought of freezing pensioners

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:24

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:14

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:02

You’ve lost me, why exactly is the national debt going to explode? Why is the U.K. going bankrupt?

Where is the money coming from to fund the war once the US stops paying? The US pays the lion share. That’s about to end. Someone’s gotta pay it, unless you want to see the Russians advance. You’ll see, you can’t afford to keep the pensioners warm in the winter as it stands.  Something’s gonna have to give.

As a single country the US pays the lions share, but Europe collectively has given more humanitarian aid while the two a broadly similar for military aid.

it’s February now and no pensioners have frozen to death. The revised spending in the military has been taken out of foreign aid so the tax payer isn’t any worse off.

you really do have a taste for melodrama.

 

you can almost hear Nutsin rubbing his hands in glee at the thought of freezing pensioners

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:14

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:02

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:56

Yeah, well your bill just went up, by a lot! Good luck with that. Gonna be interesting to see how long it takes for the UK to go bankrupt or how long before UK troops are involved in fighting the Russians. Even now there are still European countries that are not paying their 2.5% requirement for NATO funding. 

In the meantime enjoy all the additional cuts in services and watch the National debt explode and inflation to kill your pay check.

You’ve lost me, why exactly is the national debt going to explode? Why is the U.K. going bankrupt?

Where is the money coming from to fund the war once the US stops paying? The US pays the lion share. That’s about to end. Someone’s gotta pay it, unless you want to see the Russians advance. You’ll see, you can’t afford to keep the pensioners warm in the winter as it stands.  Something’s gonna have to give.

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:14

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:02

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:56

Yeah, well your bill just went up, by a lot! Good luck with that. Gonna be interesting to see how long it takes for the UK to go bankrupt or how long before UK troops are involved in fighting the Russians. Even now there are still European countries that are not paying their 2.5% requirement for NATO funding. 

In the meantime enjoy all the additional cuts in services and watch the National debt explode and inflation to kill your pay check.

You’ve lost me, why exactly is the national debt going to explode? Why is the U.K. going bankrupt?

Where is the money coming from to fund the war once the US stops paying? The US pays the lion share. That’s about to end. Someone’s gotta pay it, unless you want to see the Russians advance. You’ll see, you can’t afford to keep the pensioners warm in the winter as it stands.  Something’s gonna have to give.

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 16:02

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:56

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:49

The UK is already paying for it, be it through redistribution of public spending or energy prices/inflation and indirectly borrowing rates.

Yeah, well your bill just went up, by a lot! Good luck with that. Gonna be interesting to see how long it takes for the UK to go bankrupt or how long before UK troops are involved in fighting the Russians. Even now there are still European countries that are not paying their 2.5% requirement for NATO funding. 

In the meantime enjoy all the additional cuts in services and watch the National debt explode and inflation to kill your pay check.

You’ve lost me, why exactly is the national debt going to explode? Why is the U.K. going bankrupt?

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:56

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:49

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:38

 

Anon, It’s Gonna be interesting to see how long your Bravado lasts when you have to foot the bill for this war.

Funny how everyone just expects the U S Taxpayer to keep footing the bill to the tune of 100’s of billions of dollars.

We have $36 Trillion in debt and we are paying over a Trillion per year in interest on that debt. Let’s see how long it takes for Russia to take over the rest of the country without the US taxpayer funding it.

Good luck with that you entitled cսnt! Your life is about to get a lot fucking tougher!

The UK is already paying for it, be it through redistribution of public spending or energy prices/inflation and indirectly borrowing rates.

Yeah, well your bill just went up, by a lot! Good luck with that. Gonna be interesting to see how long it takes for the UK to go bankrupt or how long before UK troops are involved in fighting the Russians. Even now there are still European countries that are not paying their 2.5% requirement for NATO funding. 

In the meantime enjoy all the additional cuts in services and watch the National debt explode and inflation to kill your pay check.

goose wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:49

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:38

Mr Anon" wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 14:56 Some of you lot's refusal to criticise that absolute circus displayed by Trump and Vance is telling, obviously Nutsin is a moronic lost cause but some of need to step back and think about what you're defending.

And all this negotiating with Putin business is naive at best. He must be laughing his head off, all it will do is legitimise the territory he's already annexed and allow him to regroup and get ready to invade Ukraine for a THIRD time. If any of you think he can be reasoned with and will be happy to stop then i worry about your gullibility.

lastly saying Trump is refreshing because he is candid and says exactly what he means then i've got news for you, he doesn't believe a word of what he's saying, how could he? Ukraine started the war? Zelensky is a dictator?  The man is either a moron or a pathological liar




 

 

Anon, It’s Gonna be interesting to see how long your Bravado lasts when you have to foot the bill for this war.

Funny how everyone just expects the U S Taxpayer to keep footing the bill to the tune of 100’s of billions of dollars.

We have $36 Trillion in debt and we are paying over a Trillion per year in interest on that debt. Let’s see how long it takes for Russia to take over the rest of the country without the US taxpayer funding it.

Good luck with that you entitled cսnt! Your life is about to get a lot fucking tougher!

The UK is already paying for it, be it through redistribution of public spending or energy prices/inflation and indirectly borrowing rates.

Nutsin wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:38

Mr Anon" wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 14:56 Some of you lot's refusal to criticise that absolute circus displayed by Trump and Vance is telling, obviously Nutsin is a moronic lost cause but some of need to step back and think about what you're defending.

And all this negotiating with Putin business is naive at best. He must be laughing his head off, all it will do is legitimise the territory he's already annexed and allow him to regroup and get ready to invade Ukraine for a THIRD time. If any of you think he can be reasoned with and will be happy to stop then i worry about your gullibility.

lastly saying Trump is refreshing because he is candid and says exactly what he means then i've got news for you, he doesn't believe a word of what he's saying, how could he? Ukraine started the war? Zelensky is a dictator?  The man is either a moron or a pathological liar



 

 

Anon, It’s Gonna be interesting to see how long your Bravado lasts when you have to foot the bill for this war.

Funny how everyone just expects the U S Taxpayer to keep footing the bill to the tune of 100’s of billions of dollars.

We have $36 Trillion in debt and we are paying over a Trillion per year in interest on that debt. Let’s see how long it takes for Russia to take over the rest of the country without the US taxpayer funding it.

Good luck with that you entitled cսnt! Your life is about to get a lot fucking tougher!

Pi Alpha Nu" wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 15:36  It stated last week when Trump called Zelensky a dictator.

Mr Anon" wrote: ↑01 Mar 2025, 14:56 Some of you lot's refusal to criticise that absolute circus displayed by Trump and Vance is telling, obviously Nutsin is a moronic lost cause but some of need to step back and think about what you're defending.

And all this negotiating with Putin business is naive at best. He must be laughing his head off, all it will do is legitimise the territory he's already annexed and allow him to regroup and get ready to invade Ukraine for a THIRD time. If any of you think he can be reasoned with and will be happy to stop then i worry about your gullibility.

lastly saying Trump is refreshing because he is candid and says exactly what he means then i've got news for you, he doesn't believe a word of what he's saying, how could he? Ukraine started the war? Zelensky is a dictator?  The man is either a moron or a pathological liar


 

 

The big orange man baby and his cսnt of a vice president have forgotten who started the disrespect. It stated last week when Trump called Zelensky a dictator.