West Ham Online

"Currently in the Costa Blanca and I’ve just watched a storm like I’ve never seen or heard before, over an hour of unbroken thunder like a jet is taking off around the corner, it’s still going but like a plane getting further away, lightning everywhere fork and sheet every 3 or 4 seconds and biblical bouncing rain like bullets for 45 minutes. Ten minutes later the birds are flying about like they’ve just found out they have wings and the fuckin suns out. Some of those cracks of lightning fizzed before a cannon goes off three foot away, could literally feel the energy, weird. Anybody else sat through extreme weather? I miss Teds weather reports."

The nations that need to change are historically not into being told by other nations they need to change......they are almost like you Pickle in the way they won't look themselves in the mirror and admit they are in any way wrong.....

Hammer and Pickle 1:44 Fri Sep 15 You live in Lyon?

"Westside When it comes to understanding the solar aspect of climate and how it is changing, have you considered that people and what they happen to believe are really not going to deliver what we need? Only asking - no need to throw a wobbly now."

"Do people genuinely believe that changes in the weather, are caused by anything other, than miniscule changes in the output of a massive fusion reactor, that is right next door to our planet?"

"Do people genuinely believe that burning fossil fuels, releasing an astronomical amount of carbon into the atmosphere, and at the same time removed the earths natural ability to manage that cycle of carbon by destroying billions and billions of trees and plants, will have zero impact on the planet and the weather?"

"The ""stable"" state for the Earth's climate is cyclical change. On solar/geological time scales that can mean change over hundreds or thousands of years and still just be a statistical blip. Mankind's impact on this level is minuscule to virtually non-existent; so what if we are now seeing the hottest days, the strongest storms, the biggest floods since records began? That's all it is - since records began, not since weather began. How do you think all the wadis in the deserts formed? What about the rock formations in large parts of the States, the Grand Canyon? Sure they were all there ""before records began""."

Need to look at the frequency and distribution of weather anomalies on a global scale if you want to decide whether the climate is stable or not. Takes a certain minimum of resilience to do that these days and of course the cynical politician will play on that.

Hit 45 in Sicily this July. Tropical cyclone joy one Christmas in Australia (1990?) Proper cloudburst in Vietnam Was following a thunderstorm all the way from Barca until near Rouen.

"Kandy, Sri Lanka about 5 years ago. A thunderstorm I will never ever forget. Never seen rain hack it down like that in my life. 20 minutes later, the sun was blazing again & everywhere totally dried up."

"I’d normally agree but was definitely the most violent storm I’ve seen in my lifetime. Probably due to how close it was and due to very little wind how long it carried on, even the low clouds were blowing in opposite directions. Was expecting a splat from some on here, but I’ve had fucking gazillions of them this morning."

Hottest September here ever. 37C at midday in Lyon mid August. Bloody awful.

Twisters in Minneapolis. Biblical storms in the Swiss mountains Torrential rain for days across southern Europe every Autumn 48 C in Marrakech 40 C in London 1976 Any major hail storm 10C on the coast of Morocco in June. Locals all dressed in winter gear. -20 in Minneapolis. Not weird for them but for me. Totally fucking horrific for me.

It's just weather. Weather that's been occurring for millions of years. The media have driven humans to thinking extreme weather these days is due to some old bloke who drives a 1989 Nissan Micra

This is just another example of the weather following the natural cycle of the planet's solar-driven climate(s). Would have happened whether we stayed in the trees or not.