Would you offer Moyes a new contract?

[LJC]

"With David Moyes contract finishing at the end of the season and we fast approach the half way stage of the season, would you offer Moyes a new contract? (Might be worth doing as a WHO Poll). I personally wouldn’t, interesting to see Potter as huge favourite for our next manager and him turning down other roles (although could be waiting for England). Note Alonso sitting in the second favourite."

[nychammer]

"Ask me my opinion at the end of the season. Factually though, If we are comfortably top half and qualify for Europe again and even go on to win one of the cups or even in Europe, he will, whether you like his style or not, have been the most successful manager in our recent history overall and I think will be getting a new contract"

[Percy Dalton]

Moyes is a stubborn cսnt he's not used to having someone over him ie Tim Steidten controlling the transfers in and out. Hopefully Steidten has a coach that will come and get the best out of this very good squad. That man is definitely not the Scotch prick trophy or not.

[Capitol Man]

It’s nice to be in a position to be able to see how the react of the season plays out and decide. We seem to have enough about us to be able to keep out of relegation trouble - hope I don’t regret saying that.

[fraser]

Willtell I feel more relaxed if a chnage gets made next summer. I'm not sure you're aware of the risks involved in changing managers :-)

[Willtell]

"I read that article from your reference to it LJC and yes it's just shit speculation from journos with nothing else to write about. Sullivan doesn't renew manager's contracts too early. I guess he figures ""keep them on their toes."". Can you imagine though if Moyes has a great season he would turn WH and probably £15+m down? I can't. He a Scotsman for a start but who cares if he does? The possibilities are more likely that he could have a poor season and may not get offered a renewal. Ordinarily with Sullivan making the next choice that would be a worry but with Steidten and Kretinsky having a greater influence over footballing matters I feel more relaxed if a chnage gets made next summer."

[Manuel]

"I said in this thread it's possible he might want to move on, but would still say it's unlikely, we seem to be his adopted home now and he seemingly likes being here."

[LJC]

Seems to be a few articles appearing about him not wanting to sign a new contract/us looking elsewhere. Seems to be very West Ham in sowing the seeds before he goes at the end of the season. https://www.westhamzone.com/news/david-moyes-sack-decision-now-on-cards-at-west-ham-united-after-latest-news/ Before anyone says anything I know that’s a shit article but have seen a few over the last few days.

[LeroysBoots]

I'd want to know from him why is in game management is so piss poor against the bigger teams Why is use of subs is so pathetic And why he persists with a non scoring centre forward

[RM10]

"A one year extension for a manager that has taken us into europe and won a trophy, how can you argue with that? Where have you lot been all these years ?ü§£"

[madeeasy]

"Great question, I have been very anti moyes, more for his style of play and the frustration of watching us knowing what we are capable of. Newcastle was a greate xample of trying to soak and not push until we needed to and then when we did go front foot we were miles better. So I am Moyes out camp, however we have got to a semi final in Europe and then won it. So I would maybe offer him up another year extension now to see how this season pans out. I can't believe I have just said that"

[fraser]

"SoH You're talking absolute bollocks you know nothing cսnt, you're clearly not West Ham if you expect us to try and be successful, go and support Spurs, we've always been shit you should be happy we haven't been relegated for ages you ungrateful cսnt ;-)"

[Side of Ham]

We have a support base that suits those clubs that focus on getting Champions League football and everything else is meh. We don’t appreciate how big we’ve become without the results to push the big achievers button. With this growth made by the move to enable us to show just how well we are supported we then sit back and appreciate how far we’ve come without a thought of how are we going to long term kick on this needs a style/brand of football that is appealing to very good players and gets our support to that place where these players would love to play in front of us and it gives us a real ambition to get in and about the top spots even if we don’t often achieve it. With Moyes we are sitting just under that level and have no ambition to kick on this suits the owners and we don’t put any pressure on that. Moyes has been an elevation into what this club could be but if you want to twist & not stick he is to be outed…..trouble is many want to stick…..as they can’t take the consequences of failure…..again…..fair do’s only to those that go pretty well week n week out.

[Willtell]

Excellent summary of the subject swindon hammer. My compliments

[swindon hammer]

"Nagel, As far as being stronger in European competition’s with those big European signings we didn’t have Kudus, Scamacca or Paqueta when we beat the most successful team in Europa league history on our way to reaching the semi finals in 2022. Last season Scamacca missed a good bulk of the second half due to injury and wasn’t involved at all in the latter stages of European conference competition. Some on here keep trying to suggest winning the Europa conference is easy and calling it minor “, Micky Mouse etc but it’s never simple to win these things. Villa lost to Rapid Vienna this season. As I said previously, Arsenal & Man Utd should also have been favourites to win the Europa League last season given their financial strength over the others but they didn’t. Man Utd lost to Seville (who we beat) and Arsenal lost to Sporting. It’s never that simple. Even if we were one of the favourites we still deserve credit for being consistent throughout and seeing the job out. Go and ask the majority of our fan base how they felt on June 7th about that “minor trophy” We finished in the top 7 in successive seasons without spending stupid amounts. That should be something that deserves credit. We haven’t done that before in the top flight. 2 of the signings we made in that first season were the loan of Jesse Lingard and the 2 million signing of Craig Dawson. Many on here were complaining when we signed them but they helped us massively in qualifying for the Europa league and then in Dawson’s case getting to the semi final. That deserves credit. As far as you saying that Moyes already had a strong squad built by Pellegrini and the money he spent, well as mentioned we finished 10th and got knocked out the cup by Wimbledon in his first season and were then 16th/17th when he got sacked half way through the 2nd season so it obviously wasn’t that strong despite the money spent. There are people on here that don’t like Moyes and his style of play and want a change of manager. That’s fair enough. If you pay your money to go to watch games then you are entitled to want to be entertained. My main gripe is that some have built up such a hatred of Moyes that they are trying to rewrite history and say that finishing in the top 7 in successive seasons for the first time in our history, beating the most successful club in Europa league/UEFA Cup history on our way to the semi finals and then giving most of our fan base under 50 their most memorable night as a West Ham fan on June 7th wasn’t a big deal."

[LJC]

Morning Mex - yeah I saw I got the wrong end of the stick!

[Willtell]

I think tomorrow's game against Villa will show us a lot. Moyes is hinting that Kudus will start which for me means Antonio on the bench and a tight defensive formation. The only stat that matters for Moyes future is to get at least a draw but preferably a win. Even 0-1 will do me and fuck the possession stats...

[Justin P]

"Hinge it on the Arsenal game in the league cup! Win that, new contract, lose, fuck off"

[Justin P]

"Hinge it on the Arsenal game in the league cup! Win that, new contract, lose, fuck off"

[Mex Martillo]

"Good morning Great thread and discussion and not too much abuse. I haven't had such an enjoyable discussion on WHO for a long long time. Well done LJC. The reference to Paqueta and Emerson was continuing the discussion with others, yes, I agree nothing to do with you LJC. Fair point Goose 12:25 Fri Oct 20. Yes we do need to see more skill and more possession would certainly help. As I said I think Moyes is working towards that. Too slowly for many and will he even get there? But I also understand that against some teams that take control of the ball it is really difficult. I don't blame it all on Moyes, I not impressed by some of these teams. Like Brighton they spent a load of time passing the ball between their midfield and defense, devoid of ideas on how to advance. Keeping the ball at all cost, but doing nothing with it. For me that is what made parts of the game boring, Brighton keeping the ball and not entertaining. LJC I was just answering a question (LJC 8:39 Fri Oct 20) that you addressed directly at me and RM, didn't want to push you in anything."

[Nagel]

"swindon hammer 10:22 Fri Oct 20 This misses the point in a lot of ways. Obviously all Premier League clubs have been spending more, but our relative spend compared to the others has gone up. Also, while Premier League financial power has increased massively the opposite has happened throughout Europe, meaning that it's easier for us to nab the likes of Paqueta, Kudus, Scamacca, etc. and also makes us much stronger in European competitions than we would have been 5 years ago. Given that us winning a minor European trophy is the only reason Moyes is still in his job then the fact that Moyes has had the most expensive squad in our history (in both real and relative terms) is very relevant. As for talking about the millions spent by his predecessor, that doesn't make Moyes' achievements look any better. Quite the opposite, as it simply means that he already had a fairly strong team to build on with the £400m+ put at his disposal."

[LJC]

Or maybe they part wasn’t directed at me. I just think it’s so easy to say who would you have because it’s easy to shoot down. I think it should be looked at the other way and do we believe that Moyes is the best manager we could get? I truly don’t believe he is and we should always look to improve across the whole club.

[LJC]

"IP that has to be one of the weirdest posts I’ve ever seen on here but ok each to their own. Mex - I never once mentioned those players so random that’s your come back. Talking of those players though, maybe I think that Moyes doesn’t get the best out of them or use them correctly and another manager would. Sorry if that doesn’t agree with what your pushing me to say."

[goose]

"Potter wouldn’t be good, Alonso you’d stay away from……. But you’d go for Stuart Pearce or Mark Noble. Fucking hell."

[iphammer]

"Potter wouldn't be a good replacement for Moyes. If he was that good he'd still be at Chelsea and as for Alonso I'd stay away from him. If Moyes were to leave I think we should be looking at someone with a connection with us Paulo Di Canio Stuart Pearce Mark Noble And for managers with no connection, I'd go for Kieran Mckenna Andre Villas-Boas"

[Jaan Kenbrovin]

"I sincerely hope Sullivan is being advised against it and being urged toward a model that actually befits our club's history I don't like Moyes, but if we were a lot worse off economically I'd appreciate him more. Like with Allardyce I can understand the scrapping to gain status, but think he has long reached his ceiling We play the worst brand of kick and rush football since Stoke, in which we are reduced to rare moments of skill. We are the 7th/8th richest club in the PL and in the top 20 in the world. I'd like us to start performing like we want to compete technically, rather than physically. I'd like to see us be a long term breeding ground for young players than a desperate short term platform for old players to cling onto. Moyes doesn't fit any of that."