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"Just saw on twitter. Don't know if at all accurate. Unless he's had his heart set on a move regardless for some time and there's nothing we could have done anyway, then this is absolutely maddening. If it's down to not getting game time then i really don't blame him. On the face of it, it's an utter joke how little he's played this season."

Maybe the board are happy with the returns they get from training kids up to sub-Premier League level every year and simply selling them on (at a profit). The one that steps up to the line and into the first team for the club is the once-in-every-10-years exception. Rice has simply covered out the last 10 years.

"I don't like this, becoming too frequent. Difficult not to blame Moyes."

Good luck to him… Must be better than Ings…

There are seven minutes left on the clock. Antonio is knackered. Who do you bring on? Danny “hair transplant” Ings. A player who has not scored in the Premier League since February. Just how bad can Mibama be? The young lad must feel very frustrated.

AGENT 'Well we were told he was being kept to play and he hasn't kicked a ball really so for a new deal we want 25k a week SULLIVAN 'We don't think he is worth 25k a week' AGENT 'But you pay Danny Ings 120k a week and he is dogshit' SULLIVAN 'errrrr errrrr errrrrrrrr'

Lee Trundle 2:17 Tue Oct 31 100%

*around his neck x 2

"unrealistic terms = wanting 1 minute of Premier League experience He's 19, got a European medal around his next, a FA Youth Cup medal around his next, he's our current Young Hammer of the year. He's been treated appallingly so far this season."

Could be his agents see him as the next greatest thing and are asking for unrealistic terms

"I'm sure you are right, especially as he will be playing tonight... I think he might have been otherwise."

"I'll go out on a limb here, and say Marshall won't even be part of the match squad on Wednesday, ludo21."

Obviously we want to keep Mubama but Callum Marshall seems to be regarded by many as a better prospect... I haven't seen enough of either to form an opinion. Will be interesting to see who plays for the U21 in the EFL Trophy at Newport tonight as arguably these games give the U21s their most competitive outings but presumably anyone playing won't be involved on Thursday. Will be interesting to see if Moyes considers the League Cup too much of a distraction and fields a weakened team.

Interesting that both Moyes and Mubama will be leaving at the end of the season.

"I find it odd you're comparing those players we've released previously to the much more successful, better ones we currently have."

"Moyes’s handling of Mubama is absolutely criminal If you’re going to give a youth team player a chance then striker is the least risky position to try out, goalkeeper and defender obviously being the most risky if they have a mare What Moyes can’t see is that his two first choice strikers are currently playing Sunday league standard Mubama could have the worst game of his life and he still wouldn’t be any worse It’s literally a no loss situation I can only assume Moyes won’t play him as if he did and he had a brilliant game and scored it would show how clueless Moyes has been to ignore him all season Another factor Moyes doesn’t even consider is that over the years there’s been a few youngsters in the premier league that have been thrown into games due to selection issues and these youngsters weren’t highly rated but thrived under the pressure I believe Rashford at Man Utd was low down their pecking order but due to others being out on loan and injuries he was given his chance and that didn’t work out too badly for him"

Lee Trundle Why wouldn't I be aware? Odd thing to assume.

"Alwaysaniron 12:38 Tue Oct 31 You're probably not aware, but we've our U23's finished 2nd to City in the league not so long ago, and the season just gone we won the FA youth Cup. It would be a travesty if none of these players make it at WHU because of the managers shitty treatment of the youths."

"Alwaysaniron 12:38 Tue Oct 31 You're probably not aware, but we've our U23's finished 2nd to City in the league not so long ago, and the season just gone we won the FA youth Cup. It would be a travesty if none of these players make it at WHU because of the managers shitty treatment of the youths."

"If i was Mubama my concerns would be: 1. money 2. game time money i'm sure west ham offer a very decent wedge, but so would most other half decent clubs who would be interested in someone with his scoring record. game time? what game time? poor lad can't even get a look-in when we are at our worst. i'd look at that centre forward position and see what Moyes has done to previous top level strikers. that position is a graveyard under Moyes. even if he isn't good enough, the lad needs to given the chnace to prove that. we already know Ings isn't good enough because we've seen it."

"The 'Acadamy' is something we hold dear and we as fans watch these youngsters through claret tinted glasses. In reality how many of our youngsters make it? Even when we let them go, where do they end up and how many have we been able to point at and say ""Told you so, he's quality him"". Let's see the list before we hang the club out to dry for letting players leave in droves."

"For me, Mubama should be playing at the highest level possible every week. Any decision that doesn't result in that outcome is a poor management decision."

"How many of those younger players before were members of one of the best youth squads in the country, comma?"

"Allardyce joined WHU twelve years ago. How many young players of ours since then until now, and under four different managers have we subsequently realised we should have kept hold of?"

"Oh yeah, Moyes was there at the time Diangana left. Still don't see how it would have made Moyes do a complete U-turn though."

Fair enough Mike. From that one single pre-season game they played together it makes perfect sense that you thought they were building a game changing partnership that would have somehow completely fucked Moyes' tactical preferences even though he weren't there at the time.