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Tin pot outfit. Wouldn't last 10 mins in the prem. Jock football is shit.

"Why do people think it's a given that if they were in the Prem, they'd instantly be monster clubs? Most of it these days comes down to owners and how a club is run. Sheffield Wednesday were always a big club, same as Leeds, they've just had shit owners and been run terribly, hence both clubs have been down in the depths. As were Man City, who are now just about the best club a player could join if they want silverware. When all's said and done, you could make all sorts of arguments as to why, but the fact is, no real top talent is joining is choosing to join Celtic or Rangers, just as an example, neither club would have had a hope of signing Paqueta, or Alvarez, or even JWP. The reasons for that are neither here nor there, that's just facts."

"Let’s be blunt: they’re not a bigger club than us by any modern measurement. But that’s almost entirely down to the Premier League and the way its enormous spending power distorts almost all of global football. Think about how both clubs (West Ham and Rangers) were in he 80s - before the Prem made everybody extremely wealthy yet somehow (morally) skint! We shouldn’t kid ourselves. If Rangers and (particularly) Celtic were in the Premier League they’d be big - and their global appeal would expand significantly (hence, social media followings are not really an indication of much: plastic Chinese or American fans are not monitoring Scottish football but follow the Prem). But it’s all irrelevant. They’re not in the Prem and won’t be. So fuck em. Besides, we have more soul than any of them."

"I don't think they do have a bigger worldwide fanbase than us. Also, if a player has a choice of joining them or us, 99% of the time the player is joining us. In fact, players are more likely to join Bournemouth than them, and they've got about 10,000 fans. Winning domestic trophies in that league isn't an indicator of anything, they're up against teams like Livingstone & Ross County ffs"

"A reasonable way to judge a club's global standing in the MODERN era is look at their social media followings - Rangers have less than 800k on X, West Ham have 2.7m, Rangers 960k on Facebook, West Ham have 4m Not exactly scientific but a pretty good indicator who the bigger club is"

Yeah Rangers are probably bigger than us in terms of fan base. Them and Celtic are massive clubs. It’s just the league they are in that prevents them from being bigger in terms of competing with the big clubs in Europe. Don’t want either of them in the EPL though. Keep that Sectarian/Religious bullshit in Scotland where it belongs.

"Fauxstralian - I'm sure the irony in your post was intentional :-) Joe Royal - yes I googled it I did think Rangers were top, I was surprised by the Egyptian team https://sportsbrief.com/football/12402-the-successful-clubs-based-trophies-won/"

Celtic have obviously dropped off replacing Postecoglou with the inferior Rodgers who doesnt seem to get the same out of them. Happy to see the pair fester away in their mediocre cesspit of a league Same should happen to the Welsh teams .... go and play in a Welsh league

I wonder if Rodgers will come back for another foray in the EPL?

"2 points behind Celtic, if they win their game in hand. I wouldn't call that comfortable for Celtic."

Not sure if they've won any cups but this Rangers has one League title and are comfortably second in a two horse League.

West Ham's annual turnover is over £250m and Rangers is £83m. WH's TV income was around twice what Rangers total annual income for the year was. They and Celtic are big fish in a small pond and should really be in a UK PL. But then Scotland would lose a little of it's identity but be massive clubs again...

"Celtic and Rangers are huge clubs in a tiny, almost waterless, pond. And that stops them growing any further. Not that it will happen, so it’s purely theoretical, but if they joined the Premier League, both would likely become big players - Liverpool/Arsenal sized clubs: that sort of revenue. Their domestic, and latent global, support would bring them in a lot of money. But they are severely limited by Scottish football. Their current sponsorship/commercial revenues are child’s play in the Premier league."

"Fraser, you sure? Thought Bocca Juniors was the best club in the world going on leagues/trophies won."

Rangers have the second most trophies in world football after an Egyptian club.

"No, it's why we used to sing that song over and over at their place. ""QPR..QPR...HA..HA..HA...HA...HA..HA...QPR... How we laughed"

They are

They are

They would have been if Setanta didn’t pull the rug on Scottish football in the mid 90’s

"not now, no"

Rangers are definitely bigger than every club in Scotland bar possibly Celtic. Both are medium sized fish in a small pool.

No chance

"Does it really matter? It funny though, seems especially those clubs fans who are maybe just shy of the mega club status (Spurs and Arsenal come to mind) are always going on about being a ""big club"" My Arsenal mate does it all the time, said to him what's the fucking point, who gives a shit. but he still trots it out all the time keeps going on about them being a CL club, the Europa and conference are for the small fry. silly cսnt!"

Discounting the COO?

Nah