Valdo Calocane

[arsene york-hunt]

Another triumph for Care in the Community

[jfk]

This despicable evil piece of shit has been let off being sent to a “hospital” where it’s going to cost millions and some fucking shithouse may even say in ten years time let him out he’s no danger as long as he takes his medication. I feel desperately sorry for the victims loved ones they have been let down by our judicial system. Why can’t we have a referendum on the death penalty????? Cunts such as him need putting down.

[Manuel]

"Obviously the victims and their families have been let down badly here, primarily because he shouldn't have even been on the streets. I believe the charge was manslaughter because if it was for murder he likely would have got a not guilty based on diminished responsibility etc. It's true that the 'hospital' will be an easier gig than prison life, but he's still off the streets for the rest of his sorry life."

[joyo]

Putinsleftsock 1.06...for once l actually agree with you on every word of that

[aldgate]

we spread the mental health money around like confetti now - much better for the true mentalists like this cսnt to be focused on rather than every snowflake with a wobble on being given cash

[riosleftsock]

"He should never have been in our country in the first place. He should not have been allowed in, or deported after his first offence. We are a weak nation led by stupid people. Obviously you will all note the absence of human rights of the murdered innocent victims. Disgusting"

[Gary Strodders shank]

"I grew up in the same street as a lad who was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. He seemed fine when he was younger but something obviously triggered it in his teenage years and he ended up being sectioned a couple of times. Once they assessed him and got the right medication worked out he would come home and get his life back on track showing no signs of the mental health issues that had blighted his life previously. This normality continued for months or years until an event or some kind of emotional crisis occurred which would flip the balance and he would ultimately stop taking the medication. Once the paranoid schizophrenia reared its head he was convinced he was being watched by the IRA, secret services, yardies and god knows who else. He also convinced himself he was in the special services. On one occasion he knocked on my neighbours door with a battery pack he thought was a bomb saying he had made it safe and demanded he bury it in the garden. The old boy had to get a shovel out while he paced up and down in a flak jacket looking for the enemy agents Things come to ahead when he threatened another neighbour with a knife and the old bill were called and found an arsenal of knives bayonets BB guns etc. Again he was sectioned and put under supervision when eventually released with the council rehousing him elsewhere. He had"

[arsene york-hunt]

"Side of Ham 8:48 Thu Jan 25 When they were closing the big bins, both parties supported Care in the Community. The do-gooder libertarians of the left and the monetarists of the right. While it is true that most schizophrenics are harmless you can never predict the behaviour of someone who has primary delusions and hallucinations. When they moved the acute units to the communities we had no end of local scum coming to visit with drugs and often threatening staff. The whole enterprise has been a disaster, but what do I know, I only worked in the sector for 30 years"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Chatting to an ex-lag (18 years in Wakefield), now out on licence, and he says that Broadmoor is regarded as the ""go to"" prison by all those incarcerated. He said the conditions there were far better than in a standard prison and those sent there earned a higher wage on account of it being technically classed as a hospital, not a prison. He said he often tried to get transferred there but failed, however one fellow lag managed it...by murdering two of his fellow inmates. Calocane won't have a hard time there."

[Side of Ham]

"That history of him not taking what would be life saving medication due to his high level of mental illness.....is where it's murder. He was deemed safe to be in the community if he took his medication, by not taking it......he was knowingly capable of killing......that's murder isn't it?"

[Percy Dalton]

Ronnie Kray was a Broadmoor resident. Had his own butler sounds terrible like Newgate nick.

[zebthecat]

Not any old hosipital as such but a secure psychiatric unit - think Broadmoor. He is never going to be released. This should never have been allowed to happen espacially as he was sectioned several times and had a history of not taking his medication.

[twoleftfeet]

"White man murders 3 black people, racist murder and locked up for life. Black man kills 3 white people and the poor love has a mental issue and needs to be looked after in a hospital. You know it's true."

[Side of Ham]

"He had a way of stopping this.... 'He was prescribed anti-psychotic medication but stopped taking it, which the prosecution said led to a further decline in his mental health.'"

[,]

"Well put Chigwell. It cannot be murder if the perpetrator is not of sound mind. Calocane is a killer and not, under English Law, a murderer. Let’s hope that minimally some good comes out of this sad case and that we go back to locking these dangerously unstable people away from the general public."

[Chigwell]

"The CPS is being criticised for accepting guilty pleas to manslaughter. The mother of the poor lad who was killed says that that her family should have been consulted about dropping the murder charges. In truth, the CPS had little choice. They would have instructed a psychiatrist to investigate Calcone's mental condition, as would the defence. Both psychiatrists obviously agreed that at the time of the murders, his ability to exercise self-control was substantially impaired as a result of his paranoid schizophrenia. There is no point in running a murder trial when your own expert witness is going to testify that the defendant fitted the definition of diminished responsibility, which is a partial defence to murder (it makes it manslaughter). Also the sentencing outcome would be little different, except in words, if he was convicted of murder in these circumstances"

[Side of Ham]

Q. Why didn't the Labour government reverse that shit idea comma? A. BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL FUCKING SHIT AT BEING IN GOVERNMENT.

[,]

"Some people need to acquaint themselves with what used to go on in the case of mental health care and how it compares to nowadays. The fact is that over time individuals, that once were deemed to be a danger to the public, have been released into our community. Care in the Community was a nationally implemented conservative government policy the purpose of which was to support people with mental conditions to exist in the outside world rather than in outdated, costly, institutions. Mentally challenged people can cope with living in the outside world with the proper support. However from time to time people who should be locked away, and would have been in the old days, seem to be at large and ineffectively supervised."

[,]

"Some people need to acquaint themselves with what used to go on in the case of mental health care and how it compares to nowadays. The fact is that over time individuals, that once were deemed to be a danger to the public, have been released into our community. Care in the Community was a nationally implemented conservative government policy the purpose of which was to support people with mental conditions to exist in the outside world rather than in outdated, costly, institutions. Mentally challenged people can cope with living in the outside world with the proper support. However from time to time people who should be locked away, and would have been in the old days, seem to be at large and ineffectively supervised."

[Side of Ham]

Diminished responsibility ffs? The only fucking responsibility he had was to take his meds if he is that level of having thoughts to kill. Because he didn't take those meds......it's fucking MURDER.

[RM10]

We could open mental hospitals again and employ the boat people to look after them. Off our streets will be a bonus won’t it?

[Eerie Descent]

"Diminished responsibility. I mean, fucking hell. I would have thought anyone who killed 3 innocent people in cold blood would HAVE to be mentally ill, it doesn't mean that it's not murder for fucks sake. Despicable, evil cսnt, should be put down."

[Lee Trundle]

"As a policy it had been around since the early 1950s. Its general aim was a more cost-effective way of helping people with mental health problems and physical disabilities, by removing them from impersonal, often Victorian, institutions, and caring for them in their own homes. Since the 1950s various governments had been attracted to the policy of community care. Everyone can cut and paste, comma."

[,]

"For many years those individuals whose mental condition posed a known threat to the general public were locked away in secure institutions. Then Care in the community was introduced, circa 1983, and the rest is sad history."

[Dwight Van Mann]

There's evidence to show that people from Black Ethnic groups are at higher risk of mental illness. Maybe the 21st century is a bit much for them?

[RM10]

"If our leaders are not protecting us then he needs to be eliminated asap, I’m not wanting my paye tax to go on this low life, killing 3 people should be a capital offence."