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Anxiety/depression

Posted: 13 Jan 2020, 19:48
by Tomshardware
"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 14 Nov 2024, 05:29
by Mike Oxsaw
chim chim cha boo" wrote: 13 Nov 2024, 20:15 Hello pals, I haven't really been around here much lately but thought I'd check in.

The nights are drawing in, we get too little sun already and it's suddenly dark and freezing at 4pm. Who the fuck over the age of 12 wouldn't find that depressing in itself, without adding in heading for a Christmas we can't afford where we all have to pretend we're jolly, illnesses 90% of people either think don't exist or have all the same problems, say 'oh poor you' when they should be saying 'me too'.

Chronic pain, mental illness, anxiety and depression are cunts, no two ways about it and although a lot of good people can sympathise, I don't think you can REALLY empathise unless you or someone you love have had a good dose of it yourself. That's the essence of this thread on this site. It really is the diamond in the dog-shit.

Good luck boys, winter will be behind us quicker than you think. So please, get through this winter.
 
 
Although apart from a bout of gout (did you see what I did there???), I can't claim to have, so far, experienced any debilitating chronic pain, but the long Covid (/ME) symptoms you (and others) describe are getting annoyingly familiar to me.

Having worked as a contractor (no work = no pay) for over 30 years, I managed to stay remarkably illness free...until I retired (once Covid was declared history).

Now, every so often (about once every month or two) whatever I'm doing, I suddenly get a wave of tiredness sweep over me and have to lie down and sleep for an hour or so before I can continue my day. As I'm retired, it's more of an annoyance, but the problem-solver in me still wants to identify the root cause to see if I can resolve/manage it better.

I'm narrowing down the possible causes and so far have got to:
  1. Covid (but can't recall any symptoms at the time,
  2. The Covid vaccine (that will boil some people's piss, I'm sure, but that's their problem, not mine),
  3. Old age; Gotta face up to the fact,
  4. Retirement & lifestyle change (all my key drivers are now personal and self-derived),
  5. ME - no history of that, either personally or ancestrally,
  6. Atrial fibrillation & Atrial flutter (my doctor doesn't seem overly concerned that anything urgent is needed here),
  7. My anti-hypertension medication (often up 2 or 3 times a night for a piss, meaning I don't get a proper nights sleep).
  8. At one time I would have added beer, but my youthful indulgence in that has long passed, aided by the fact that all (ALL) beer in Thailand is either absolute shite or taxed into the upper levels of the stratosphere.*
Any/some/all of the above could be causing the symptoms I get, so it, at least, keeps me busy researching for an hour or so a day.

Those who are suffering though, for whatever reason, I wish you well and hope that you at least get closer to identifying your own personal cause and hopefully some sort of remedy.

Don't forget you can sound off on this thread if that releases some of your pressure; I'm sure nobody will hold you to account for doing so.



* - alcohol is never the solution to a problem (except, maybe  an unexpected minger next to you in bed), - trust me on that one, and, yes it's fun on the path to getting merry, but that's about it; It'll dull the symptoms for a few hours but never provide a resolution.

Stay strong; you're West Ham, after all.

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 20:15
by chim chim cha boo
Hello pals, I haven't really been around here much lately but thought I'd check in.

The nights are drawing in, we get too little sun already and it's suddenly dark and freezing at 4pm. Who the fuck over the age of 12 wouldn't find that depressing in itself, without adding in heading for a Christmas we can't afford where we all have to pretend we're jolly, illnesses 90% of people either think don't exist or have all the same problems, say 'oh poor you' when they should be saying 'me too'.

Chronic pain, mental illness, anxiety and depression are cunts, no two ways about it and although a lot of good people can sympathise, I don't think you can REALLY empathise unless you or someone you love have had a good dose of it yourself. That's the essence of this thread on this site. It really is the diamond in the dog-shit.

Good luck boys, winter will be behind us quicker than you think. So please, get through this winter.

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 13 Nov 2024, 16:38
by One Sunny Day
Actually really thought I was going to top myself today. Always worked bloody hard and looked after my family. Funds have run out and forced to apply for Universal Credit, after suffering with long covid for a year. They messaged me back, literally want mug shots of me holding my driving licence, like I'm some sort of criminal, then wern't satisfied with the photos. Apparently I'm a complete cսnt for getting ill. Went up the pub and got smashed. Back home now, only thanks to thinking of my wife and daughter first. I'm in horrible achey pain, 24/7 and it only gets worse.

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 12 Nov 2024, 14:11
by Django
stubbo-admin wrote: 10 Nov 2024, 10:06
Django wrote: 06 Nov 2024, 19:48 I feel at the end of my rope. I’ve been living with long covid for nearly 3 years. It’s taken everything - job, money, marriage and a lot of friends. I used to run and play a lot of sport. Now nothing. I have a daughter who is my protective factor -  otherwise I’d probably have thrown the towel in. My existence feels very pointless now.
Django, not sure if they're still up and running but these guys during COVID were pretty 'relevant' if you didn't just buy everything the MSM were purporting.

They had a treatment protocol for long COVID...might be worth looking at....think a lot of it can be adopted on an individual basis:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-cont ... -11-23.pdf

(Obviously not medical advice, do your own research etc etc)
Thanks mate. Appreciate that

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 10 Nov 2024, 10:06
by stubbo-admin
Django wrote: 06 Nov 2024, 19:48 I feel at the end of my rope. I’ve been living with long covid for nearly 3 years. It’s taken everything - job, money, marriage and a lot of friends. I used to run and play a lot of sport. Now nothing. I have a daughter who is my protective factor -  otherwise I’d probably have thrown the towel in. My existence feels very pointless now.
Django, not sure if they're still up and running but these guys during COVID were pretty 'relevant' if you didn't just buy everything the MSM were purporting.

They had a treatment protocol for long COVID...might be worth looking at....think a lot of it can be adopted on an individual basis:

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-cont ... -11-23.pdf

(Obviously not medical advice, do your own research etc etc)

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 09 Nov 2024, 12:01
by Tomshardware
Sounds very debilitating,  what kind of treatments do they do in other countries?  

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 07 Nov 2024, 19:35
by Django
Trilby55 wrote: 07 Nov 2024, 18:24 Long Covid sounds similar to M.E. 

 
Yeah a think ME, CFS and long covid are very similar 

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 07 Nov 2024, 18:24
by Trilby55
Long Covid sounds similar to M.E. 
 

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 07 Nov 2024, 17:29
by Django
One Sunny Day" wrote: 07 Nov 2024, 15:09
Django wrote: 06 Nov 2024, 19:48 I feel at the end of my rope. I’ve been living with long covid for nearly 3 years. It’s taken everything - job, money, marriage and a lot of friends. I used to run and play a lot of sport. Now nothing. I have a daughter who is my protective factor -  otherwise I’d probably have thrown the towel in. My existence feels very pointless now.
 
Sorry to hear that. I've had long covid for the last 12 months and like you, it's probably my kid that keeps me going. Just so hard to do the bare minimum to survive, ache all over and am tired out, constantly. You hang on in there, mate.
Sorry you’re in the same boat. It is fucker isn’t it. And you, keep the faith 

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 07 Nov 2024, 17:27
by Django
Tomshardware wrote: 07 Nov 2024, 15:08 Django,  Sorry to hear that, are you able to get help through your GP? 
Thanks. Very little. To be fair it’s still too unknown to drs but it  is frustrating to hear treatments being successfully used in other countries. 

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 07 Nov 2024, 15:09
by One Sunny Day
Django wrote: 06 Nov 2024, 19:48 I feel at the end of my rope. I’ve been living with long covid for nearly 3 years. It’s taken everything - job, money, marriage and a lot of friends. I used to run and play a lot of sport. Now nothing. I have a daughter who is my protective factor -  otherwise I’d probably have thrown the towel in. My existence feels very pointless now.
 
 
Sorry to hear that. I've had long covid for the last 12 months and like you, it's probably my kid that keeps me going. Just so hard to do the bare minimum to survive, ache all over and am tired out, constantly. You hang on in there, mate.

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 07 Nov 2024, 15:08
by Tomshardware
Django,  Sorry to hear that, are you able to get help through your GP? 

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 06 Nov 2024, 19:48
by Django
I feel at the end of my rope. I’ve been living with long covid for nearly 3 years. It’s taken everything - job, money, marriage and a lot of friends. I used to run and play a lot of sport. Now nothing. I have a daughter who is my protective factor -  otherwise I’d probably have thrown the towel in. My existence feels very pointless now.

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 06 Nov 2024, 19:44
by Django
One Sunny Day" wrote: 06 Nov 2024, 13:36 Well this is shit. Just found out an old mate down the road topped himself over the weekend. Was away at a family wedding so missed it all. He's struggled all his life with mental health issues. His missus was away with the kids and worried because she couldn't get hold of him. A neighbour of mine who has a key went round and found him dead in his house. Depression is a proper bastard.
Sorry to hear that. Sounds brutal. 

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 06 Nov 2024, 13:36
by One Sunny Day
Well this is shit. Just found out an old mate down the road topped himself over the weekend. Was away at a family wedding so missed it all. He's struggled all his life with mental health issues. His missus was away with the kids and worried because she couldn't get hold of him. A neighbour of mine who has a key went round and found him dead in his house. Depression is a proper bastard.

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 16 Oct 2024, 20:43
by side effect
Almost 100 days off Amitriptyline and now on my final med which is 2mg buprenorphine under the tongue.

This is to replace both the patch and cocodamol which I've now stopped taking.

Since I've been taking this sublingual I have like the poster on the antibiotics been sickly all week.

Hope this is now easing.

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 16 Oct 2024, 09:55
by Westham67
I'm still trying to navigate this new format so I am not sure if I am replying to someone else or not. Apologies in advance if I am

I did mention before that I had an appointment a 90-minute appointment with a professor of neuropsychiatry on 18th September 42 during the appointment I was told I should not have been prescribed Sertraline and took off it for an alternative. (I was prescribed Sertraline by a GP who  changed the prescription I had from a psychiatrist for citalopram as I had side effects on May or June 21)

About 4 weeks into taking Sertraline I had my first sick note for panic disorder and that continued losing job after job on June 22. I have done three weeks of work since then. On October 21 I had 4 hours in total of cognitive testing the results for my memory for either brain damage or "Significant inattention " after the head scan it was the latter

Before Sertaline I had none of the above. I had a medical negligence lawyer take my case last week (One of many who wanted it ) its not on a whim they have most of my medical records and their rate is £280 an hour. No win no fee for 25% plus 12% insurance in case I need a barrister of further independent second opinion 

I have read NHS don't normally go to court . After a professor of neuropsychiatry took me off of Sertraline I cannot see NHS asking for a second opinion. The average settlement for an NHS negligence case is north of £200 K. and takes about 8 months.

For those who don't know GPs are not qualified to change anti-depressants prescribed by a psychiatrist, they should refer me back to a psychiatrist. That is the negligence

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 24 Sep 2024, 16:41
by Mike Oxsaw
If you're still on here, Peckham, Starmer has just announced:

"Housing plans: The PM announced plans to house homeless veterans, care leavers and domestic abuse victims. It means those groups will be exempt from having to providing a local connection to the area they're applying to."

If that's fast-tracked it may well help you. Might help if you "mail-bomb" your current local MP's inbox.

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 07 Sep 2024, 10:45
by Westham67
I am reading a book called The Body Keeps the Score about how your body reacts to mental health issues. I have not had CBT for PTSD and to quote the book. PTSD the body continues to defend against a threat that belongs to the past. My adrenaline can rise quickly and take a long time to come down. I have to see a neuropsychiatrist on the 18th of September for a 90-minute appointment. I am writing everything down

I had one of the most stressful weeks in a long time last week, I ended up in A&E I passed out in a shop and hit my head on the floor on Wednesday evening. After extensive tests, it was found that my passing out was a psychological episode due to the stress. 

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 02 Sep 2024, 15:27
by cup of tea
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: 02 Sep 2024, 15:07 I've had depression all my fucking life, I'm currently on Quetiapine, Promethazine, Mirtazapine, Gabapentin and  Circadin for sleep. Depression is a cսnt, no ifs and buts about it. Hope you all get some relief.
I'm on Citalopram, Mirtazapine, Propanalol and very occasionally Diazepam for travel induced anxiety. I've done counselling and various therapies. Mine is mostly anxiety related PTSD from stuff years ago that I was getting over well until I lost my Dad 3 years ago and it came back with a vengeance.

Most days I'm OK, some days palpitations and extreme sweating through anxiety.

Anxiety and depression are debilitating illnesses. I've been there and still am there just not as severe but bad enough when I get a 'spell'

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 02 Sep 2024, 15:07
by Far Cough UKunt
I've had depression all my fucking life, I'm currently on Quetiapine, Promethazine, Mirtazapine, Gabapentin and  Circadin for sleep. Depression is a cսnt, no ifs and buts about it. Hope you all get some relief.

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 31 Aug 2024, 16:02
by charleyfarley
Glad you are ok Frank, it sounds like the after effects were worse than the actual accident. 

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 31 Aug 2024, 15:05
by Frankie Pankie
This Summer I was involved in a car accident.

laft work, was meeting my wife for dinnér, driving home easy 75 miles an hour, all of a sudden a car rams me from the side, pushing me into the next lane where I am hit by another vehicle.

the 1st guy who hit me on the left carried on driving, hit n run and the guy that hit me was slumped on his steering wheel, wrecked and smoke coming from the vehicle.

I run up to him and thankfully he wakes up and asks me if I'm OK. cops show up, hit n run. not my fault Noone hurt.

for a few weeks after im waking up in tbe night thinking ive killed someone, didn't sleep for weeks, started drinking before bed to knock myself out, got covid twice and that laid me out for a week both times. thoughts went to what if I was killed, what would the kids do, would anyone care. I didn't want to drive and more or less became scared of everything.

went to the Dr's, i was told therpy for trauma was needed and it did. clearer heeded now, not drank for 9 weeks and moved on from the whole thing.

helps out there, go and get it. 


 

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 29 Aug 2024, 15:14
by panamahat
"Please stay strong fellas , Peckam & Pents , hard times right now & we all need to stick together & be what we are United , through all the injustice & division that is being lobbed our way !"

Re: Anxiety/depression

Posted: 27 Aug 2024, 18:13
by Pentonville
"Cheers Manuel, ur right actually, i keep getting told to pull myself together and face it etc but that is so easier said than done. This country with custody is fucked. A woman can take ur child for no reason, make a load of shit up and then when u ask police to get involved they say its civil and by time i get this case done i wont have seen him for 6 months. they already trying to break the bond. as for peckham, i apoligise for saying fight. that was lame. remeember what u r due from that housing company and remember its enough for most people to start afresh. i know u want to stay there but if thats impossible, try to comfort urself with the thought u will be away from the bullies and able to go by the sea."