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Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 12:16

The achievement was more in line with winning the UEFA Cup in the 70s/80s, or the Cup Winners in the 90s.

I don't see genuine west ham fans belittling the inter-toto win, only cunts

It is hard comparing today’s European competitions with the ones in previous decades. You could win the European Cup by beating a load of shit, but you had to actually win the league first to qualify. The same principles applied to the Cup Winners Cup.

The Conference League may be third rate, but you have to either win the League Cup or finish in the top 7 to enter. There were still a few decent teams in it when we won it (also a lot of shit). It has been weakened this year because the Europa League has been strengthened. You didn’t get Shamrock Rovers, Larne, TNS and Hearts in it two seasons ago.

It is nothing like the Intertoto and absolutely nobody celebrated winning that trophy. We may have celebrated the win in Metz and qualifying for the UEFA Cup, but no one wore the trophy as a badge of honour.

Yeah well tbf that’s wrong.

It’s clearly the 3rd tier trophy and that’s nothing to be ashamed of.

I don’t see Spurs putting down their two UEFA Cup wins because it was the 3rd tier trophy at the time?

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 12:16

Nobody said it was on a par with 1965. That was the 2nd tier Euro trophy at the time.

The achievement was more in line with winning the UEFA Cup in the 70s/80s, or the Cup Winners in the 90s.

Defo not on a par with winning a pre-season tournament.

fraser wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 12:02 Not really the same as the ECWC because you could have teams finishing second in other major leagues in that. 

Any PL team entering the conference should win it. 

Makes me laugh everyone lauds the Premier league and how good it is and how players from other leagues aren't good enough.. We could cherry pick Ajax's best players, that definitely wasn't the case when we won in. 65, wasn't our squad worth more than the other 7 teams together in the quarters? 

I love winning it, but definitely not on a par with 65

Reading this thread you’d think this site had gone all spursy.  





 

0-1 flattered Everton a bit, they looked hopeless at simple short passes and their only out appears to be the full backs pumping it long to DCL (sound familiar?).

That press conference is something else though, deary me. Equal parts David Brant and Alan Partridge.

Not really the same as the ECWC because you could have teams finishing second in other major leagues in that. 

Any PL team entering the conference should win it. 

Makes me laugh everyone lauds the Premier league and how good it is and how players from other leagues aren't good enough.. We could cherry pick Ajax's best players, that definitely wasn't the case when we won in. 65, wasn't our squad worth more than the other 7 teams together in the quarters? 

I love winning it, but definitely not on a par with 65

feet's suggestion that someone else is obsessed with Moyes gave me a laugh, so he's done something good for the day.

Stupid? Is that what you’ve reverted to?

Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:33 Imagine being so stupid, that you're arguing that UEFA's previous 3rd tier tournament wasn't UEFA's 3rd tier tournament, and in the same breath saying UEFA's current 3rd tier tournament is UEFA's 3rd tier tournament.

 

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:24

Gank wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:20

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:17

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

No it wasn’t something you could just enter like the FA Cup, we qualified via the FIFA Fair Play Award.

one of the other two winners that year was Juventus. Why would such a giant of football enter something if it was a pathetic no-mark tournament that even Millwall could enter?

They wouldn’t. It was a gateway to the UEFA Cup - it was the third-tier European competition.

Roma and Frankfurt won the conference, big clubs who embraced it fully.

I’m sorry you are wrong. We might have won fair play but we still had to apply to enter, which we did.

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:28 "Roma and Frankfurt won the conference"

Frankfurt won the Europa League, you can't even get that right you cսnt

 

Imagine being so stupid, that you're arguing that UEFA's previous 3rd tier tournament wasn't UEFA's 3rd tier tournament, and in the same breath saying UEFA's current 3rd tier tournament is UEFA's 3rd tier tournament.

Feet.

In actual competition, by any metric, the conference league is by far the easiest to win and there are reasons why Moyes only managed to get his hands on that one trophy. 

 

The year we were in the InterToto the biggest team in it was Juventus. In the Conference League I doubt that any of the teams taking part would last a single season in the Premier League, except maybe Lazio and Fiorentina. Both competitions are very much 3rd tier, regardless of the format or when the matches took place.

It's not anywhere near the same standard as the old ECWC either. That competition usually had some of the best teams of every major league taking part, which is why it was won by the likes of Barcelona, PSG, Juventus, Arsenal, Man Utd, Milan, Bayern Munich, etc.

"Roma and Frankfurt won the conference"

Frankfurt won the Europa League, you can't even get that right you cսnt

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:25 "you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t"

it simply was an easy tournament to win, the only hard game was Fiorentina, which he nearly fucked up. the players won that trophy, despite his constant negativity

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:22

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:17

only1billybonds wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:12 Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

 

don't be disingenuous, you may have been allowed to apply but it was only the team that finished highest in the table (of those applied teams) that qualified. I knew it wouldn't be long before you started spouting your pro moyes bollocks. fucking moyes united supporters

 

"you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t"

it simply was an easy tournament to win, the only hard game was Fiorentina, which he nearly fucked up. the players won that trophy, despite his constant negativity

Gank wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:20

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:17

only1billybonds wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:12 Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

No it wasn’t something you could just enter like the FA Cup, we qualified via the FIFA Fair Play Award.

one of the other two winners that year was Juventus. Why would such a giant of football enter something if it was a pathetic no-mark tournament that even Millwall could enter?

They wouldn’t. It was a gateway to the UEFA Cup - it was the third-tier European competition.

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:17

only1billybonds wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:12 Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.

 

Mad Ferret" wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:06 Very sad indeed when Moyes haters start to sound like Spurs fans in attempting to put down West Ham’s achievements. Just to claim that Moyes didn’t win a major trophy with us.

Bizarre behaviour.

What I said was that Moyes is one of only two managers to have won the third tier European competition.

What you have said is ‘yeah but Redknapp’s doesn’t count’

So who is putting down West Ham’s achievements here?

twoleftfeet wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:17

only1billybonds wrote: ↑16 Jan 2025, 11:12 Said this before. With the level of opposition we faced during that campaign, a semi final place was the absolute minimum requirement. Yes it was great to win the thing but let's have this right. There's a reason why the only trophy Moyes has managed a team to lift is the easiest one of all to win. 

When you say easiest you forget that to get into it we had to get through a 38 game premier league season to be able to get into the tournament.

The intertoto cup was a tournament you could just apply to be in.

Also bear in mind that because we were deemed a big club in the competition other teams tried harder to beat us, you can’t say it’s an easy tournament to win because it simply isn’t.