Fauxstralian wrote: ↑11 Jun 2025, 08:38
England looked the same turgid disorganised Southgate era team
The same era we reached 2 consecutive Euro Finals losing out only on penatlies once as well as a World Cup Semi?
I'd take that every day of the week over this genuine turgid disorganised mess.
Re: International matches
Posted: 11 Jun 2025, 08:38
by Fauxstralian
Only watched 20mins of the first half & Senegal looked much the better team
England looked the same turgid disorganised Southgate era team
As said probably good that Tuchel gets a wake up call NOW and needs to have a rethink obviously
Walker & Henderson were finished two years ago & the likes of Burn, Madueke etc etc are not international players
Maybe needs to realise that Saka is nowhere near his inflated reputation
He has enough players but needs to get the mix right & puncture some over inflated reputations
Bowen who is a team player & works back & forward should be an obvious pick
Re: International matches
Posted: 11 Jun 2025, 08:23
by Mike Oxsaw
Couldn't make head nor tail out of that selection.
If I'd just landed from Mars having watched all PL games this season, it would be very difficult to avoid coming to the conclusion that some (of those) players were promised a certain number of caps/minutes (and not by the (current) manager) when they were first called up.
As such, the manager was actually very restricted - by his own managers - in who he could pick & play.
Re: International matches
Posted: 11 Jun 2025, 07:58
by southbankbornnbred
The likes of Chalobah, Colwill and (possibly) Madueke will probably go the way of Loftus-Cheek, Mason Mount and others.
They’re all decent club players - sure. But are they really top-level England players? The best England have?
If any of them had played for West Brom, it’s unlikely they’d have played for their country. This obsession with Chelsea’s kids has gone too far. Pick them on merit, not promise (that often doesn’t quite materialise at the highest level).
Madueke ahead of Bowen makes absolutely no sense at this stage. He has no end product.
That back five last night (including the keeper) is as weak as I’ve seen since the days of Graham Taylor playing Gary Pallister (a CB) at left back and Andy Sinton (a left winger) at right back.
Re: International matches
Posted: 11 Jun 2025, 07:53
by Massive Attack
He just hasn't got a clue. A big give away sign of that is him desperately chucking on SIX Subs to try and see what sticks and yet still nothing. They only had to use 3.
Also he is relying too much on past it players. Last match he laughably started Henderson (who shouldn't even be in the Squad) and now Walker in defence (who shouldn't even be in the Squad).
The quality players are there, he just doesn't know how to use them. 1 of them bang in form and of real quality he even left out the Squad altogether, none other than our boy Bowen.
Just 1 year to go till the World Cup. He's in a right mess with it all, predictably.
Re: International matches
Posted: 11 Jun 2025, 07:41
by southbankbornnbred
Many over-rated players in that England squad last night. This insistence on picking any living being who wanders through Chelsea’s building is becoming an embarrassment, as is the commitment to over-the-hill veterans whose best days pre-date Germany invading Poland.
Tuchel is also making the mistake - made by so many England managers - of trying to crow-bar unsuitable players into new positions. Sven played Scholes in left midfield, Capello played Gerrard there, Southgate played Mason Mount there and Trent in CM, and I have absolutely no idea what Rodgers was doing as a #9 last night. It was embarrassing. He genuinely looked like he’d never played football before - and it wasn’t his fault.
Pick your best players in each position and play them there. That bit really isn’t rocket science! Too many of these managers think they’re far more clever than they are.
The absence of Bowen from that squad, after the season he had, is - by any measurement - farcical.
Same old, same old.
Re: International matches
Posted: 11 Jun 2025, 04:14
by Nutsin
English manager should be English.
I want him gone asap.
Re: International matches
Posted: 11 Jun 2025, 04:07
by Sydney_Iron
I remember as a kid England famously losing to Norway 2-1 and the commentators rant (see below) going all over the world at how they had beaten a big nation and was listing PMs and varies famous Englishman at how your boys took a hell of a beating, these days if we lost to Norway no one would bat an eyelid as they are about our level.
Makes this Senegal humiliation even worse really, 3-1 AT HOME is utterly embarrassing seeing the players we put out, the clubs they are from and the combined valuation of them, Can't just point the finger at the Jerry for this, those players should be ashamed of themselves, 3 fucking 1, fuck me
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 23:43
by Texas Iron
England utterly Pathetic…
Well beaten by a better team …could have been more goals for Senegal based on stats and attitude…
Tuchel a retrograde step…stealing a living…
So many poor selections today…
F A Suits don’t know what they are doing…
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 22:52
by F 129 Row66
Just saw the score. I too, didn't know they were playing, but also didn't care. When they have three West Ham players in the team, the minimum requirement for success, is when I start giving a fuck.
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 22:23
by yngwies Cat
Didn't even know they were playing .
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:56
by honky cat
Evan Ferguson 's Ireland managed a 1-1 draw v senegal on friday.
What a pile of shit.
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:50
by Iron Duke
Get that skeletor nonce sausage munching fraud out.
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:49
by claypole
I expect Madueke is another in the long line of people pushed into football after starting out in athletics. No football brain
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:48
by Massive Attack
The scoreline flattered us in the end, they battered us all game at Home.
Fuck the clueless Kraut off.
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:42
by onsideman
That one was from Madueke's abortion of a free kick. What a cսnt
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:41
by onsideman
Thomas Tuchel is the first England manager to lose to an African nation... EVER! That gets a huge LOL from me
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:36
by Sydney_Iron
Australia qualifies for the WC finals overnight with a 2-1 away win against Saudi Arabia, this follows last week's 1-0 win over Japan, many thought the Aussies had an uphill battle but shown some real spirit, be Group fodder in the finals mind!
See England are losing at home, not watching but guessing it's the usual billy big bollocks can't give a fuck type of performance from my countrymen? Tuchel has his work cut out, mind you rather they were shit now than next summer just hope he can turn it around somehow not least by binning some of these players for some that give a fuck
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:25
by Massive Attack
onsideman wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025, 21:22
Isn't it incredible that everyone blows smoke up Madueke's arse for being, at best, "competent". It starts with cunts like Sam Matterface and Lee Dixon and just permeates everything, like a contamination
That's a bug bear of mine when they say something on commentary that sounds half good, then the other rushes to agree and then at half time, full time when analysed properly the conclusion is they were wrong but they've said it now, so fuck it let's go with it eh. Happens quite often.
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:23
by twoleftfeet
Toney has travelled all the way from Saudi just to sit on the bench
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:22
by onsideman
Isn't it incredible that everyone blows smoke up Madueke's arse for being, at best, "competent". It starts with cunts like Sam Matterface and Lee Dixon and just permeates everything, like a contamination
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:20
by Fauxstralian
Qualifiers for the World Cup from the Asian groups ….
Iran , Uzbekistan, South Korea, Jordan. Japan & Australia
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:19
by Massive Attack
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑10 Jun 2025, 21:11
Don't blame Tuchel, blame the blazered up cunts at the FA.
I did as soon as soon as The FA were first flirting with Tuchel they needed to reconsider this DEI appointed nonsense. Thing is, it could backfire spectacularly where we could struggle to qualify if this continues this way. I think we'd still have enough just to qualify and won't be as bad as 1994 was, but this aint good.
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:18
by twoleftfeet
The only players benefitting from these shit games are those that were omitted. Tuchel is dreadful, get Ange in
Re: International matches
Posted: 10 Jun 2025, 21:15
by Takashi Miike
it must be disheartening for any of the other forwards that kane insists on starting every fucking game