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Some fairly unpleasant undertones for both Trump and Mandelson in the latest presentation of Epstein information.

Hard not to overly the quoted materials that are in relation to 'birthday notes' from these guys with the trafficking he has been proven to be a part of.

Jeffrey Epstein files and 'birthday book': What we know - BBC News

Mandelson's office saying 'he's said he wishes he never made the connection' is hardly an appropriate response...although the messages being cryptic means they probably count it as enough.

Will it ever all come out?  Doubtful...but it's pretty clear that this whole Epstein affair laid bare would have been a disaster for so many public figures, that his convenient death was the best they could do.

What say the sages of WHO?

Ghislaine Maxwell has also stated that Prince Andrew was set up and didn't do anything wrong. 

All you have to do these days is be photographed with a criminal/paedo/murderer, and you are as guilty as them on social media. 

As for Peter Mandleson the word oleaginous was seemingly invented just for him

Nurse Ratched" wrote: ↑10 Sep 2025, 07:15 I would be more inclined to believe Trump wrote those birthday messages to Epstein had the messages been more neutral in tone. The 'we have a lot in common' comment and allusion to 'secrets' is too clumsy in my opinion. Sounds like a hoaxer trying just a bit too hard.

I would be more inclined to believe Trump wrote those birthday messages to Epstein had the messages been more neutral in tone. The 'we have a lot in common' comment and allusion to 'secrets' is too clumsy in my opinion. Sounds like a hoaxer trying just a bit too hard.

Wrong thread

Fauxstralian wrote: ↑09 Sep 2025, 22:01 So G Maxwell put together the card & put Trumps signature on it?
In that case why didn’t Trump contribute a card for his good mate?

I liked the claim the other day that Trump wasn’t really an associate of Epstein …. He was working for the FBI & helping expose him
That makes MUCH more sense

So G Maxwell put together the card & put Trumps signature on it?
In that case why didn’t Trump contribute a card for his good mate?

Fauxstralian wrote: ↑09 Sep 2025, 21:36 The card is part of a book that Ghislaine Maxwell put together from associates for the paedos 50th
If it’s not from Trump how was it included?

Please don’t say he has an evil twin

Most people will spin this stuff how they want. Literally nothing about it that indicates any illegal activity.

The card is part of a book that Ghislaine Maxwell put together from associates for the paedos 50th
If it’s not from Trump how was it included?

Please don’t say he has an evil twin

That birthday card Trump apparently made and signed for Epstein aint even his signature.

Who signs birthday cards anyway?

Is amusing to watch Peter Mandelson squirm over it all though.

Yep, I've always advocated businessmen being leading politicians but it was always inevitable that he would become a career politician in the end.

Gank wrote: ↑09 Sep 2025, 20:32 It's a little note (and childish cartoon drawing) in a birthday book. Most of us would have written a message in a wedding book for someone you barely know. I don't think this is a big deal.

Mandelson did the right thing, just said he wrote something in a book for some bloke he wishes he never met as it turned out he's a wrong'un. Trump can just say similar and then that's the end of it.

It's a little note (and childish cartoon drawing) in a birthday book. Most of us would have written a message in a wedding book for someone you barely know. I don't think this is a big deal.

Mandelson did the right thing, just said he wrote something in a book for some bloke he wishes he never met as it turned out he's a wrong'un. Trump can just say similar and then that's the end of it.

The Trump note which he says wasn’t from him is in this book of 50th birthday tributes for Epstein put together by Ghislaine Maxwell
If he didn’t produce it then who did and how did it get in the collection?
Shaky ground but of course he will deny in defiance of all logic

I saw also that he was complaining that crime figures were too high as they included domestic violence cases
Which he believes aren’t a real crime just a ‘little fight’ when a man beats up his partner

Yup. There could be genuine video of him high fiving Epstein and clinking champagne flutes while fucking an underage girl and he'd just deny it and say it's fake news, start banging on about interest rates the 'radical left' and immigrants and still a significant number of people would lap it up and ask for more. And he's removed all checks and balances to make himself accountable to the law or anyone, for anything, anyway.

Not unpleasant for Trump at all. Just dismiss it as fake and move on.