AFC Bournemouth vs West Ham | PL | 22.11.25 | Prediction and Match Thread

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Draw: 3/1
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Sorry the post is late up.

After what feels like an age since we limped past Burnley, we're off to the seaside to take on many peoples favourite second team, Bournemouth.

All hussle, bustle and high intensity, Iraola's mob are the modern watch word for modern style, and there is plenty to be concerned about with talented forwards and great energy in the side.  But they've lost the last two, comprehensively against Villa, and if there is a good time to play them....maybe it's now.

After the last international break, Nuno went full Looney Tunes....let's hope for a modcum of sense this time around.

Predicted Lineup:

Hard to see beyond a team similar to the last few games, but with Paquéta suspended, all eyes will be on who replaces him from a squad devoid of any real creative influence.

No doubt the temptation will be to shoehorn Soucek into the side, but against the high energy Cherries, it surely has to be Magassa, with Fernandes pushing forwards.

Areola

Wan Bisaka  Todibo  Kilman  Diouf

Magassa Potts

Bowen         Fernandes            Summerville

Wilson

Subs: Hermansen, Mavropanos, Igor, KWP, Soucek, Irving, Kante, Guilherme, Earthy

Predicted Score:  A desmond.....2-2  (Willson, Soucek)

COYI

[Massive Attack]

Fancy comparing a game where Wilson scores 2 goals 1st half to another where he struggled to score 1.

It wasn't about that though was it, I pointed out that we brought Wilson off to early as he was giving us an outlet and went to defensive, I also stated in another game it would cost us, it did on Saturday and there you are moaning about it now, when you defended it then. 

Your argument "We won" your new argument of why its now an issue "Wilson scored"

You're an idiot. 

 

 

Because we beat Newcastle 3-1 you fucking plum, whereas we chucked 2 valuable points drawing 2-2 in the end and very lucky we didn't chuck another point away as well for subbing our now in-form Striker who had just scored an impressive brace 1st half with our only 2 shots on target all match off the back of scoring in the previous match. 

[Eerie Decent]

Agree with all on taking Wilson off too early and taking Fernandes off and going backs against the wall. 

Speaking to a dad from my daughters football team yesterday and he is a Spurs fan. He said most of their mob liked Nuno - But they got sick of his tinkering and losing points from winning positions. Sounds like he hasn't learnt. 

He simply cannot keep influencing games so negatively. 

 

I would agree if he was still doing it next season after 2 transfer windows, but he can't have been that bad with it consistently, given that he finished 7th twice in a row with Wolves, and 7th last year (which was a fag paper away from being 5th) so his record tells us, given a bit of time, it won't be as bad as what we're seeing at times now.

We're in an absolute dogfight, which isn't of his doing, he has come in and at least significantly improved our defending, our fight, and scoring goals. The 2nd half was horrendous, no question, but it was shocking conditions, wind blowing into our faces, and in the end we got a point, albeit lucky.

We have a badly put together squad, shocking, no back up attacking players worth a rub of salt, who were getting rolled over without a fight before he came in. Corners against us were like penalties. We can't keep chopping and changing, we need to get behind him, get him some reinforcements in January, and see what he does from there. Hopefully something like he did at Forest.

That's not to say his poor decisions can't be debated, but some of the reactions are well over the top. He's been in charge for 7 games ffs

 

Think you are giving him a bit of a pass Eerie, he has had 7 games and 3 of them he has been absolutely woeful tactically when all 3 games were winnable.  You can even argue that some of the decisions in those 3 games are far worse than anything Lop or Potter done. 

The squad isnt as bad as it looked start of season, he has proven that in how he has got a tune out of them. Jlop and Potter were so bad that him getting us to defend better and look better attacking wise has felt like he has reinvented the wheel.  But the way he turned the game with two subs to make us feel delighted with a point after being 2 up at HT ........well he deserves pelters for that.

It does feel like 2 steps forward 1 step back with him. I dont know if it is him desperate to make big calls or to keep that element of control by keeping the players guessing. But it seems like when he finds a solution and we look better he implodes the whole thing and has to chuck some points away. That's not what we need in a dogfight. 

No free pass mate, I just think given our position when he took over, and let's not forget we also got absolutely torn apart by Wolves in the cup, yes he's made a few bad decisions, but he's been here 5 minutes and already we've seen a huge improvement overall.

And your last sentence there makes no sense to me. What we needed in the dogfight we're in is a manager who the players respect, will fight for, put their bodies on the line, and gets the team scoring goals. We were doing NONE of that.

He's far from the sort of manager I'd ordinarily want at the club, the owners are the real problem, but we've done all that to death. He is our manager, he's made some mistakes, but he's given me some hopewe might stay up, and I'm going to see what happens in January before having a meltdown about the odd bad decision.

[Russ of the BML]

Agree with all on taking Wilson off too early and taking Fernandes off and going backs against the wall. 

Speaking to a dad from my daughters football team yesterday and he is a Spurs fan. He said most of their mob liked Nuno - But they got sick of his tinkering and losing points from winning positions. Sounds like he hasn't learnt. 

He simply cannot keep influencing games so negatively. 

 

I would agree if he was still doing it next season after 2 transfer windows, but he can't have been that bad with it consistently, given that he finished 7th twice in a row with Wolves, and 7th last year (which was a fag paper away from being 5th) so his record tells us, given a bit of time, it won't be as bad as what we're seeing at times now.

We're in an absolute dogfight, which isn't of his doing, he has come in and at least significantly improved our defending, our fight, and scoring goals. The 2nd half was horrendous, no question, but it was shocking conditions, wind blowing into our faces, and in the end we got a point, albeit lucky.

We have a badly put together squad, shocking, no back up attacking players worth a rub of salt, who were getting rolled over without a fight before he came in. Corners against us were like penalties. We can't keep chopping and changing, we need to get behind him, get him some reinforcements in January, and see what he does from there. Hopefully something like he did at Forest.

That's not to say his poor decisions can't be debated, but some of the reactions are well over the top. He's been in charge for 7 games ffs

 

 

Fair points. And I hope he does get time - And I am not advocating he shouldn't. I am, as you say, debating some of his decisions. To remove our goal threat, remove our must energetic midfielder and basically park the bus as early as we did was awful management. He has been in charge for 7 games and in 3 of those I believe his poor management has costs us. So what's that? 40% fuck up rate. Not great, is it?

Yes he has inherited an unbalanced squad. And he hasn't had much time to make real change. I like the guy and hope with all my heart he succeeds. But, let's have it right, the stupidity needs to stop. 

[Lee Trundle]

Some of Nuno's tactical decisions have been awful.  As bad as anything Loppy and Potter produced.

All 3 managers have picked sides no supporter of the club would have ever chosen.  That rings alarm bells for me.

[Ron Eff]

I agree with Eerie. Decisions can be criticised, and I did so myself. He took the easy option to sub Fernandes when he realised the Soucek up front idea was a mistake which annoyed me (not that the lazy German made any difference). But in his defence, Soucek has scored the last twice out doing exactly that job. Likewise KWP did last week. Guilherme was out of his depth. It should have been Earthy coming on, admittedly. 

At least the players seem to like him, and he has them working hard. A fuck ton better than watching the gormless predecessor who used to try to inspire people by biting his coat collar, isn’t it? Even if he did try to get 60% possession passing it aimlessly. 

[Rossal]

Agree with all on taking Wilson off too early and taking Fernandes off and going backs against the wall. 

Speaking to a dad from my daughters football team yesterday and he is a Spurs fan. He said most of their mob liked Nuno - But they got sick of his tinkering and losing points from winning positions. Sounds like he hasn't learnt. 

He simply cannot keep influencing games so negatively. 

 

I would agree if he was still doing it next season after 2 transfer windows, but he can't have been that bad with it consistently, given that he finished 7th twice in a row with Wolves, and 7th last year (which was a fag paper away from being 5th) so his record tells us, given a bit of time, it won't be as bad as what we're seeing at times now.

We're in an absolute dogfight, which isn't of his doing, he has come in and at least significantly improved our defending, our fight, and scoring goals. The 2nd half was horrendous, no question, but it was shocking conditions, wind blowing into our faces, and in the end we got a point, albeit lucky.

We have a badly put together squad, shocking, no back up attacking players worth a rub of salt, who were getting rolled over without a fight before he came in. Corners against us were like penalties. We can't keep chopping and changing, we need to get behind him, get him some reinforcements in January, and see what he does from there. Hopefully something like he did at Forest.

That's not to say his poor decisions can't be debated, but some of the reactions are well over the top. He's been in charge for 7 games ffs

 

 

Think you are giving him a bit of a pass Eerie, he has had 7 games and 3 of them he has been absolutely woeful tactically when all 3 games were winnable.  You can even argue that some of the decisions in those 3 games are far worse than anything Lop or Potter done. 

The squad isnt as bad as it looked start of season, he has proven that in how he has got a tune out of them. Jlop and Potter were so bad that him getting us to defend better and look better attacking wise has felt like he has reinvented the wheel.  But the way he turned the game with two subs to make us feel delighted with a point after being 2 up at HT ........well he deserves pelters for that.

It does feel like 2 steps forward 1 step back with him. I dont know if it is him desperate to make big calls or to keep that element of control by keeping the players guessing. But it seems like when he finds a solution and we look better he implodes the whole thing and has to chuck some points away. That's not what we need in a dogfight. 

[Sir Alf]

His will get decisions wrong like any human being and Saturday was guilty of that but as Eerie says, in the overall scheme of things, he’s doing ok. Leeds was the other game I think he got it wrong on selections and subs. 

He certainly has inherited a proper mess of a squad, the result of no long term planning, awful recruitment and 4 or 5 previous managers with different tactics and styles. 

Lets hope any recruitment in Jan does not see too many older players although we have immediate needs and Jan is notoriously hard to get quality at a decent price. If we could err towards younger players though, I think we will all be more comfortable.  One older more experienced player at CB might be ok or a loan but not sure who that might be. In central midfield I see Fulham are reportedly going for Bissouma at Spurs? Might be a decent loan? Alleged attitude issues and not sure he’s the best influence ( alleged woman beater?) but when fit he is someone who can run all day and has pace in midfield esoecially if Potts gets injured?  



 

[Eerie Decent]

Agree with all on taking Wilson off too early and taking Fernandes off and going backs against the wall. 

Speaking to a dad from my daughters football team yesterday and he is a Spurs fan. He said most of their mob liked Nuno - But they got sick of his tinkering and losing points from winning positions. Sounds like he hasn't learnt. 

He simply cannot keep influencing games so negatively. 

 

 

I would agree if he was still doing it next season after 2 transfer windows, but he can't have been that bad with it consistently, given that he finished 7th twice in a row with Wolves, and 7th last year (which was a fag paper away from being 5th) so his record tells us, given a bit of time, it won't be as bad as what we're seeing at times now.

We're in an absolute dogfight, which isn't of his doing, he has come in and at least significantly improved our defending, our fight, and scoring goals. The 2nd half was horrendous, no question, but it was shocking conditions, wind blowing into our faces, and in the end we got a point, albeit lucky.

We have a badly put together squad, shocking, no back up attacking players worth a rub of salt, who were getting rolled over without a fight before he came in. Corners against us were like penalties. We can't keep chopping and changing, we need to get behind him, get him some reinforcements in January, and see what he does from there. Hopefully something like he did at Forest.

That's not to say his poor decisions can't be debated, but some of the reactions are well over the top. He's been in charge for 7 games ffs

[Council Scum]

Fancy comparing a game where Wilson scores 2 goals 1st half to another where he struggled to score 1.

It wasn't about that though was it, I pointed out that we brought Wilson off to early as he was giving us an outlet and went to defensive, I also stated in another game it would cost us, it did on Saturday and there you are moaning about it now, when you defended it then. 

Your argument "We won" your new argument of why its now an issue "Wilson scored"

You're an idiot. 

[Massive Attack]

Fancy comparing a game where Wilson scores 2 goals 1st half to another where he struggled to score 1.

[Council Scum]

Took off later after an hour having failed to score unlike on Saturday when he managed to score not just once but twice in the 1st half on a hat-trick. 

You don't half desperately clutch at straws, for what a sausage you are. 

You learnt how to count yet, Scum...

You're an absolute sausage on all sports, it's not just limited too one. 

[Rossal]

Play the younger players where possible and for as long as possible in games. That is the exact opposite of what the last 4 managers have done so logic suggests its a better policy? They can handle the intensity and pace of the PL better and from what Ive seen most are better technically. Of course not all of them will work out ( eg Guilherme, Marshall ) but at least give minutes to Magassa, Kante, Golembekis ( spelling?) , Fearon). Their energy and enthusiasm can only help. Imho 

But Potts and Fernandes are mainstays now. Subbing Fernandes was indeed Mr Hyde and bad judgement imo

 

 

To follow this, I dont understand why he keeps putting Irving and Rodriguez on the bench.  I don't see what scenario there is where them two coming on is a good option. Magassa and Soucek are clearly the first reserves. Id rather have Marshall or Fearon or even Kante on the bench as legs for situations like Saturday. Tell Marshall or Fearon to go on and just run yourselves into the ground to press and disrupt or to be an outlet up top. 

[Massive Attack]

You were all for him dragging him off early against Newcastle, when I pointed out it nearly cost us. 

Took off later after an hour having failed to score unlike on Saturday when he managed to score not just once but twice in the 1st half on a hat-trick. 

You don't half desperately clutch at straws, for what a sausage you are. 

You learnt how to count yet, Scum...

[Council Scum]

What aggravated me more about the mindless Wilson Sub was then to see him trying to correct the errors of his ways by later subbing on that useless disinterested heap of shit Fullcunt.


Wilson already now has more goals than him.

Wilson - 10 apps - 4 goals

Fullcunt - 28 apps - 3 goals

You were all for him dragging him off early against Newcastle, when I pointed out it nearly cost us. 

Took off later after an hour having failed to score unlike on Saturday when he managed to score not just once but twice in the 1st half on a hat-trick. 

You don't half desperately clutch at straws, for what a sausage you are. 

[Massive Attack]

What aggravated me more about the mindless Wilson Sub was then to see him trying to correct the errors of his ways by later subbing on that useless disinterested heap of shit Fullcunt.


Wilson already now has more goals than him.

Wilson - 10 apps - 4 goals

Fullcunt - 28 apps - 3 goals

You were all for him dragging him off early against Newcastle, when I pointed out it nearly cost us. 

Took off later after an hour having failed to score unlike on Saturday when he managed to score not just once but twice in the 1st half on a hat-trick. 

[Russ of the BML]

Agree with all on taking Wilson off too early and taking Fernandes off and going backs against the wall. 

Speaking to a dad from my daughters football team yesterday and he is a Spurs fan. He said most of their mob liked Nuno - But they got sick of his tinkering and losing points from winning positions. Sounds like he hasn't learnt. 

He simply cannot keep influencing games so negatively. 

[Sir Alf]

Play the younger players where possible and for as long as possible in games. That is the exact opposite of what the last 4 managers have done so logic suggests its a better policy? They can handle the intensity and pace of the PL better and from what Ive seen most are better technically. Of course not all of them will work out ( eg Guilherme, Marshall ) but at least give minutes to Magassa, Kante, Golembekis ( spelling?) , Fearon). Their energy and enthusiasm can only help. Imho 

But Potts and Fernandes are mainstays now. Subbing Fernandes was indeed Mr Hyde and bad judgement imo

[GBHammer63]

All the fan channels pointing out the 7 points out of the last 9 is fair enough IF we’d fought for an honourable draw, we were fucking pumped and big style, yes we’d all have more than taken the 7 from 9 but for me those points (which we pleased of but fortunate to have) are more than counteracted by Nuno’s choices, he’s like Dr.Jekyll and a cowardly Mr.Hyde.
Its fair enough not knowing what your best team is but he’s had the experience of our last 3 seasons to know what our best team ain’t, and ain’t getting it.

[Council Scum]

What aggravated me more about the mindless Wilson Sub was then to see him trying to correct the errors of his ways by later subbing on that useless disinterested heap of shit Fullcunt.


Wilson already now has more goals than him.

Wilson - 10 apps - 4 goals

Fullcunt - 28 apps - 3 goals

You were all for him dragging him off early against Newcastle, when I pointed out it nearly cost us. 

[Westside]

I also think team has a bit more fight about them as 2 games we're behind to then win but under Potter if we went one down it was game over 

We are currently 4th, in the league table of points gained from losing positions.

[Rossal]

That's now 3 out the last 5 games Nuno has thrown with his tactics. We went from being comfortable at half time to being extremely lucky to walk away with a point.  His tactics are just self sabotage, a front 3 of Bowen Soucek KWP is absolutely mental.  Why invite so much pressure onto a back 5 that struggle to defend. 

The best way to relieve pressure is to have an outlet. Earthy or Magassa should have come on if Ghillurme was crocked to allow us to get up the pitch and keep the ball when we had it. Not having Soucek up there doing fuck all as per and KWP who looked completely lost out wide.  Then the Wilson sub was far too early, not only did he invite pressure for too long but then once they equalised all we had was the useless German lump to try and attack again. 

Areola was outstanding, and I thought Todibo was good again. He has been superb the last few games. 

But overall yet again huge question marks over the manager, just as we look half decent again he reaches for the self destruct button and slams it. 

[Eerie Decent]

I think that's the real clear difference, you can see the players respect this manager, and to a man they are all fighting for the shirt. Given we were the mingeist team with the mingeist manager a few weeks ago, we're giving teams problems now for the most part.

Some of the football is going to be dire, but once he's got some reinforcements in, we'll hopefully see enough games like the Newcastle one which will make it bearable along the way.

[XKhammer]

I also think team has a bit more fight about them as 2 games we're behind to then win but under Potter if we went one down it was game over 

[Massive Attack]

The fact that the team who went off at half time was not in big trouble and had a two goal lead.

That alone doesn't justify any change whatsoever.

All subs were made to protect a lead instead of hurting Bournemouth any more.

So instead of passing upwards we dropped deep and saw 80% of the ball going to Bournemouth. One point gained was down to pure luck.

Capitulation. Cowardly. Amateurish 

We got lucky in the end but we have 8 goals and 7 points in the last 3 games and that is a positive in the right direction 

Definitely. As much as I aint happy with how he's managed Wilson, I am glad to see us scoring freely again as a Team and although a jammy point, 7 points out of 9 is still a great turn around since the Potter debacle. 

[XKhammer]

The fact that the team who went off at half time was not in big trouble and had a two goal lead.

That alone doesn't justify any change whatsoever.

All subs were made to protect a lead instead of hurting Bournemouth any more.

So instead of passing upwards we dropped deep and saw 80% of the ball going to Bournemouth. One point gained was down to pure luck.

Capitulation. Cowardly. Amateurish 

But nothing to do with Bournemouth having the wind and rain behind them which helped us in first half?
We got lucky in the end but we have 8 goals and 7 points in the last 3 games and that is a positive in the right direction